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I'm Jay Rocklin editor of the University of Arizona's alumni magazine, here to talk about the university and its budget. I'm pleased to have as my guest today, Bert Landau, he's the University of Arizona's controller and Associate Vice President for Finance. Good to have you with us, Barry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=73.0,88.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Thank you, Jay. It's delightful to be here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=89.0,90.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: The university has been in the news just about every single day for the last couple of weeks since the legislature got in session, talking about budget cuts, budget problems, possible layoffs, class closures, whatever. As the comptroller, could you give us some feel for the scope of the problem and the discussion?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=91.0,108.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yes, I can give you a rough scope. I think first of all, I'd like to start off with some historical perspective. About seven of the past eight years, we've had a mid year budget recession, meaning we literally had to reduce our expenditures by as much as in 1982, I think 10%. But in other years, there's been varying amounts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=109.0,131.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: So let me back you up. Sorry, I budget precision. Some people haven't heard that word before, they're really mean to a department head or college head of the university.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=132.0,138.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Overall, for the college as a whole or for the university as a whole. It means that the expenditure authority that the state legislature gave to us at the beginning of the year is reduced by some amount, usually a set percentage, although this year, it's being expressed in both dollar amount and a percentage. The amount for this year, incidentally, is still in negotiation between the governor's office the RSPB Office of Strategic Planning and Budgeting, I think, and the Joint Legislative Budget Committee, that that should be resolved quite soon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=139.0,177.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: So you're going to go in with a historical perspective about","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=178.0,180.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yes. And in the past, we've been able to to respond to those budget decisions with things like more tuition revenues, and we had budgeted for, for example, if enrollment grew more than we had projected, as it did for several years, that gave us more money than we had actually planned on receiving from that source. And then we could use that overage to apply against what the state needed to take back to balance their own books. But the number of budget restrictions that we have had over that period has been cumulatively pervasive in quite severe we've lost 10s of millions of dollars in planned and programmed expenditures, because of the state's inability to to project their own revenues accurately and then follow through with them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=181.0,233.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: So how about right now give us again, a feel for what's going on now with respect to the universities. Okay, we've had these budget recisions over the years, which is put the crimps down a little bit. We're hearing university administrators saying there's no more fat to cut, we're going to start cutting actual meat programs. How bad is it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=234.0,253.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: It's it's been progressively bad, you can only reduce your budget so much before you begin cutting into some infrastructure operations. I think we're nearing the point where not only are additional layoffs, probable, but also we should start reviewing our academic program offerings, not only the number of them, but the type of them in order to make sure that we we retain some balance in our academic offerings and at the same time stay within our budget.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=254.0,286.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: There's some folks listening right now just without question guaranteed that you really don't care a whole lot about the state universities. They think the state universities, spend too much money on administrators don't offer enough classes. As you know, you know the terms you've heard of yourself. Let's put aside the ideas of culture and personal enrichment and things like that for a little bit. And talk about a straight dollars and cents from, from the whole state's point of view, the whole state's hurting. Are the state's universities a good deal for the state of Arizona? Overall,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=287.0,317.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: yes, they are in two parameters. One is that higher education produces people that not only work better and more efficiently, they generate jobs. That's one perspective and other is the amount of money that the presence of a large institution like the University of Arizona brings into the community. Let me give you a perspective this way, from taxpayer money this year, and next year, the taxpayers will provide to the university about 200 million, we will get from all other sources, over another 500 million. The economic impact of something approaching three quarters of a billion dollars of which the taxpayers only pay about 28% is enormous. And this money comes probably the largest chunks of it from outside the state, for example, we have such a successful and dynamic research program that we will bring in from outside Arizona nearly as much money as we get from our taxpayers. In other words, we get about 200 million each year from our taxpayers, our research activities are going to be very close to that same amount, most of it coming from the federal government. The economic impact of all that extra money that we attract is probably three to four times the amount of the actual dollar so that if we bring in from all other sources and other $500 million dollars, then the economic impact would be three times two, maybe four times that amount. The power, the economic power of having that kind of of activity in Arizona is just enormous. To a somewhat lesser extent. I know our sister institutions perform that same kind of economic service right in Phoenix in Flagstaff. Okay,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=318.0,449.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: we need to take a break right now. There's a lot more I want to ask you about that very issue and the economic impact when we come back. Sure. Now, we hope you'll stay with us on Arizona alumni forum.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=450.0,557.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Thanks for staying with us in Arizona alumni forum Jay Rocklin here with U of A's Alumni Association, speaking with the University of Arizona's controller and Vice President for Finance Bert Landau, about budgets. When we left off yet he painted a real good and rosy scenario I I think about how much the University of Arizona brings in from outside funding. It sounds like the taxpayers. Gosh, aside from the education of the folks who are getting a real good deal for a $200 million investment in cold hard cash terms are bringing in what an extra four and a half $5 million.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=558.0,591.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, now the taxpayers pay 200 million right we bring in from all of the other sources practically Another 500 500","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=592.0,601.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: million Yes, sorry. My question is, does the University of the state risk some of that $500 million? If they start cutting back on some of the 200 million, we're not keeping up with other institutions who are who are going further, are there any examples in your experience that could give us some insight?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=602.0,619.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: There, there probably are, for example, much of what the the legislature gives us pays for some of the basic internal operations, such as the utilities that help us keep the place open. If you cut back on some of those things, and some of the support staff that assist us in running the organization on a day to day basis, if you do, as we have had to the past couple of years, not provide salary increases for our premier faculty, our exemplary staff, the people who make the university what it is, then certainly the attractiveness of moving elsewhere, will be quite high. Some of those faculty take with them a great deal of prestige and prominence in their particular fields. When they leave the grant, the research dollars that they attracted to the university, more than likely will leave with them. So you could lose one faculty position and end up losing far more than the value or the rest of the cost of that faculty member in the amount of research that that individual brought in. In addition to that you've lost a key member of the faculty.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=620.0,693.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Let's get down to one more level of detail, you've talked about roughly $200 million in terms of tax dollars, roughly $200 million from outside research money, we've heard about that Arizona ranks in the top 20 or whatever and research dollars, whereas the other 300 or so million dollars come from wherever the other sources?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=694.0,712.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, one key source is student fees and tuition. Okay, that's in excess of 100 million. It at least at book value. Then from things like internal charges, sales and services to people in the institution and outside the institution, and the amount that we spend on things like construction activities, the total in smaller increments, and those that I mentioned, such as research, state funding, fees and tuition, the total begins pushing it up in smaller and smaller increments.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=713.0,752.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: The tuition is the other big enough yes to talk about. There's got to be a lot of discussion in times like this about raising tuition, what I understand, give me the right finger so that in a second, but for in state two tuition, students may maybe pay what is it maybe a third 25% of the actual cost of educating them?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=753.0,773.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: We're using j formula that we've adopted statewide, the cost of education formula. In State students currently pay about 20%,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=774.0,783.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: only 20%. Okay,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=784.0,785.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: out of state students pay about 90% of the overall intent of the Board of Regents when they adopted the policy a few years ago was that ultimately in State students, or resident students would pay 1/4 of the cost of their education. And that would move outward in small increments. At the same time out of state students, the non resident students would pay 100% of the cost of education.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=786.0,811.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: So there have got to be some folks in the legislature and elsewhere probably internally saying the students are getting too good of a deal at 20%. Why don't we raise tuitions like other states like California, like some of the New England states and let them carry more of their own weight?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=812.0,829.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I'm sure those discussions have come up. But quite recently, we began the discussions on what shall the fees and the tuitions be for next year. Right at that time, the students mounted an information campaign for the Board of Regents as well as several members of the legislature, which basically said that because of the hard economic times, which affects them to sure that we should not have any fee and tuition increases. The board accepted that position, Alby it with a console that they might come back perhaps in March or April, and re review the situation based on what the state legislature did with their appropriation. And the students accepted that for the time being. But I remember at the time when the issue came to the board, and the Board of Regents staff, the staff of the three universities and the board began discussing it in the students provided input at that time. Several members of the legislature also expressed the opinion that fees and tuition should remain stable because of the heartbeat Economic Times, I think in view of the states to be declared posture on appropriations, that that issue might be well worth revisiting, perhaps in March or April and just re examine the economic environment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=830.0,914.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: We need to break one more time. And I want to revisit that issue with you in about two minutes as we continue our discussion. We hope you'll stay with us as we talk about tuition and fees at the University of Arizona and elsewhere on Arizona alumni forum.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=915.0,1024.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Welcome to Arizona.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=1025.0,1027.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: You're listening to Arizona alumni forum brought to you by the University of Arizona's Alumni Association. Glad you're still with us, Jay rock than here talking with Burt Landau. The University of Arizona is Vice President for Finance and the controller. We were talking about tuition Berta. And that's that's what everything we're talking about today. I imagine that's the one of the strikes closest to home to most of the people watching whether they're students, parents or potential parents.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=1028.0,1047.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yeah. Can I correct the title the advice place? It's the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=1048.0,1050.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Associate Vice President. Okay. Politically right thing to do, plus the accuracy all over the country? There's, there's debates going on, I guess it's framed in terms of the high tuition, low tuition debate. Could you frame that for us? And tell us sort of both sides of where it's we're sure from,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=1051.0,1069.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I think the general framework in consideration of the economic climate, in nearly every state like 34 states out of 50 is the framework is increasingly focusing on who pays and who benefits. Okay. We mentioned in the last segment that in State students or resident students pay only about 20% of the cost of education. If you look at who pays and who benefits is the framework in the face of the fact that the legislature because of our overall problems with the economy, when you combine those together, you can construct an argument that suggests Well, maybe we should raise our fees and tuition. Since the students ultimately are the primary beneficiaries of higher education, maybe they should pay more. At the same time, you have to take into consideration the people that are economically disadvantaged, or that otherwise might have been precluded from attending higher education. If you're going to raise tuition, you have to provide the venue the financial support for them to to attend also, and you normally do that in the form of increased financial aid","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=1070.0,1146.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: to Ken that have let's let's talk about fairness a little bit. That's an important issue you brought up. On the one hand, it's probably not fair to raise tuition if it's going to exclude people who are capable, but couldn't afford it. But on the other hand, is it fair for the rest of Arizona's taxpayers to in effect subsidize the wealthy for sending their children to school?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=1147.0,1170.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: They low tuition argument is essentially based on the fact that there are segments of our society that are being subsidized and it's usually the people in the higher socio economic groups, right. That's another one of the arguments that has been used historically since the mid 70s. as a basis for increasing fees and too, because in theory, the people in the higher socio economic groups don't need to support anyone. But if you charge more To everyone, you can take part of the money, use it as financial aid support for those who otherwise wouldn't have been able to attend for financial reasons, even under the low tuition format.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=1171.0,1212.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I was at University of Arizona to date myself, I think my first year's tuition was about $125 a semester, yours is probably around that. And when up to 160 98, I remember 98, good, the 750 790 whatever it is right now feels like high tuition to me. But that's that's not really the case. Is that nationally, where do we come in? For in state tuition,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=1213.0,1233.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I think we rank in the lower 1/3 of all other public institutions. And the Board of Regents has been very conscientious in reviewing that to make sure that we are as affordable as possible for our in state residents.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=1234.0,1250.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Let's turn our attention to another issue. Now the issue of accountability and control has gotten a lot of attention also, as we talk about budgets. And I guess the way I see it is that the legislature in exchange for putting up more money wants more control, they feel frustrated that here's 200, and some million dollars that they're putting into, say, the University of Arizona, and they really don't have a whole lot to say about how that money gets spent. When some of the agencies around the state, they've got a lot of say about how that money gets spent. And of course, the university is saying, we believe that we know how to best serve the people of the state of Arizona, in higher education. Is there more going on there than that I'm talking about?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=1251.0,1291.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, you know, I'm not one of the politically adept people that you could have on your Yeah, your show. There are two observations I make about that. One is that the state has the university has parallel rules and regulations that govern much of how we use and spend money. The rules and regulations that are established by the state don't pertain just to those monies we get from the state, they pertain to all of our funds, whether it comes from the state, whether it comes from the federal government, or some other source, a case in point is, is in travel. We use the constraints restrictions and documentation requirements established by the State Department of Administration, the Arizona State Department of Administration. And we do that whether you're traveling using grant funds, your research monies, or state monies, it doesn't matter. So we do apply those things uniformly. If you're talking about programmatic intent. For the past several years, we haven't had large enough incremental changes to the budget to have started any major endeavors. Basically, what we are doing is, in many respects, a replication of what we have done in the past. It's based on the historical use of how we spent money. So if the legislature were concerned that we were making large changes or sweeping movements in the curriculum or something like that, we haven't had the money to do it with.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=1292.0,1383.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay, we're about out of time for this segment. I've saved the tough questions for our last segment. And I hope that convinces you to stick around for another six minutes here on Arizona alumni forum.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=1384.0,1497.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Hi there. Thanks for staying with us in Arizona alumni form In case you joined us late, I'm J. ROC. And with the University of Arizona's Alumni Association and the editor of the magazine there, I'm here with Burt Landau, the University of Arizona is Associate Vice President for Finance and controller. We've talked a whole lot about where the money comes from how much money we've got, but we haven't really spent time talking about who's in charge of spending it operate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=1498.0,1516.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, we tend to take a look at the overall management structure. And I guess my first answer would be that the President Pacheco is largely the person in charge. But he has a small group of people who work for him to handle all of the financial matters. Part of it is assigned to folks like Joe Valdez, and that's where most of it belongs. And I work for Joel as does the budget function. My office handles things like taking care of all the money that comes in making all the payments that go out, we pay the bills, we pay, the salaries and wages, etc, we issue the financial reports, and all of the federal state and local reporting that goes along with it. The Budget Office handles the planning and all the preparation and budget loading that's done for future years. It's a relatively small Financial Management Group. But if you take a look at our annual financial reports, for the past decade or so, I think you'd you'd come to the conclusion that my staff and my predecessors have done an excellent job.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=1517.0,1583.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Let me let you brag about the financial operation for just a little bit of the year. Over the last couple of months, we've been refinancing our houses, I haven't got around to it yet. I don't have time, but I plan to just maybe save 75 bucks a month and the mortgage makes a difference. The University of Arizona from I understand has a huge amount of money out in bonds, which are in effect mortgages for corporations. I understand you're saving some bucks I in that arena, too. are giving it a try anyway.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=1584.0,1607.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: J You'd better hurry with your house. Okay. I mean, I'm in the market right now, as we speak, Uh huh. Getting ready to refinance, a little over 100 million in our bonded indebtedness. That's the money we use to do a substantial part of the construction that we've had these past few years. We want to take advantage of the best possible rates. And think that that there will be not only immediate savings, but some long range savings. And basically, we're doing it for the same reason that you should be working on refinancing your house right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=1608.0,1644.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: If that's successful, should that help the University of Arizona out of its current financial crisis,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=1645.0,1648.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: it will particularly for this year, it will help us meet our current year budget recession targets. It's not going to be enough to make it in hole, but it will certainly alleviate part of the burden on the academic units. Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=1649.0,1665.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Every time I have the opportunity to have a university administrator on his program, hit him up with some of the same tough questions that we just can't help but to hear out in the street complaints about the University of Arizona, I would like to hear how you respond. People complain it's almost a cliche, but to many administrators, fat administration at the University of Arizona to many vice presidents. What's the story?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=1666.0,1686.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, you know, I've heard those same complaints. And each one of the individuals with a vice presidential role typically is performing some set function, that for one reason or another he's deem necessary. For example, in my boss's case, the Vice President for business affairs, Joe Valdez, it's axiomatic that we have to have someone handling the Business and Administration requirements of the institution, someone has to do. Some other functions that have come up relatively recently, like dealing with Student Affairs, or undergraduate education are primarily a function of changes in our student needs, as well as his changes in perceptions of how we service and serve students. So in any particular period of time, the type and number of administrators we have will vary a little bit. And it's kind of an interesting question, because it's part of a class I'm taking. My particular study group is trying to evaluate, who are the administrators in higher education? Tough question. Yeah. Well, it is. I mean, some people are immediately identifiable, you can take a look at my position and say, I'm an administrator. But if you take a look at a department head, is that part of the institutional administration? I think a lot of it depends on your perspective.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916#t=1687.0,1774.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73621/file/159916/transcript/37816/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay, well, I guess we're actually about out of time right now. I want to thank you for being with us. And I want to thank you for being with us on Arizona alumni forum. This program is brought to you by the 145,000 members of the University of Arizona's Alumni Association in this station. My guest today was Bert Landau, the Associate Vice President for Finance and the Comptroller of the University of Arizona. I'm Jay Rocklin. hoping you'll join us again next month, right here. 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