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Professor HN, who was a veteran of a half century of Arizona journalism will be your God. You will visit with some of the state's most important personalities and your neighbors who are my witnesses to history. Today's guest is Joel Valdez, Tucson city manager.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=46.0,139.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Welcome to eyewitness to history. Today's guest is a gentleman who wasn't the same professional employee at one time in the newspaper business. We will tell you a little more about that later. I'm very happy to have Joe Valdez with us because he started as a news carrier in his professional career. And he's climbed to the position of city manager of Tucson. And he, as the Chief Administrative Officer for the City of Tucson since 1971, is responsible for the operation of the city carries out the administrative duties. And in our system of government, which is a city manager system of government, the council sets policy and you carry out the policy. Sometimes it gets a little blurred in operation, doesn't it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=140.0,190.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yes, it does. Yes, it doesn't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=191.0,193.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Tell us a little bit about what problems do you run into because of that division that has been set in our form of government?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=194.0,200.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, first of all, let me thank you for inviting me. The council manager form of government has been in Tucson since 1929. When freeholders got together and wrote a charter and then the public at that time voted for it, which is our Constitution. It does separate the policymaking power within the mayor and council who are elected by the people and the responsibility for the day to day administration with their appointed CEO, the city manager. From time to time, you have individuals who are elected, who tend to stray into administration, simply because of they want to or there's frustration levels building up that they wish to do things a lot faster than the normal bureaucracy allows a bureaucracy can only move so fast. And if direction is clear, clear and concise. Then the bureaucracy can move mountains. But if it is vague, or it is flip flopping week to week, then the bureaucracy has a tendency to sit back and wait until the issue is more clarified or the directions are more specific. And in those instances, then, when you have a split vote like a four to three vote, the three novels will do what they can to try to get it changed to four three the other way. In the meantime, the city continues to go on day to day, people still turn on their valves to take a shower and we still pick up garbage you know. And it's in that little hiatus that occurs that conflicts do arise. And it's the skill of individuals on staff and was Marin Council the others also two new people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=201.0,303.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I remember an incident with a previous city manager who had a couple of Councilman who thought that it was their business to have automobiles with red lights and sirens. And when the city manager said no, that's for the police, they said, Look, we we set the rules here. And there came that blurring of the lines. Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=304.0,321.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: And that happens and it's tax the tactful approach to point out. What is the law? And normally I have to tell councilman, you don't want to go to jail, do you? This is what you have to do. I'd like to However, the law doesn't let us","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=322.0,336.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: before we get further into the city government. I want to turn the calendar back a little bit. In even in territorial days, Hispanics were very strong in government positions as mayors as legislative leaders. But I don't believe that a Hispanic has ever risen to as high a position in the administrative direction of the city as you have a city manager. Is that correct? That's correct.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=337.0,361.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: That's correct. Yes. Now we're only two Hispanics, city managers, United States of cities over 100,000 people. The other is a young man, I helped a lot. George Carrasco, who is the manager of Austin, Texas, of all places, but he's Hispanic, and he is the city manager of the great city.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=362.0,378.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Now, tell me you grew up in Tucson, as I said, you threw papers in the circulation department in the newspaper. And I'm wondering what has growing up in Tucson meant in your ability to direct a city of this size,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=379.0,393.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: where you have, because you have the ability to, to grow in grew up in your own community, you have a better sense of perspective, I guess, a sense of history of how things came about, as opposed to an individual who, who comes into town, and is purely from an administrative viewpoint doing things, which are probably proper. But as you well know, each city is very unique. And this particular city is obviously very unique with a multi racial mix. And routes that go way back to before the area was even part of the United States, that you have a different mindset. And what has happened over the period of years now is the influx of people who come from primarily a 500 mile radius of Chicago, who bring with them, their ideas and their biases and their likes and dislikes and their prejudices, and begin then to influence what goes on in the community as opposed to the old saying, When in Rome do as the Romans, will they come here and they're going to change everything. I get complaints because our symphony is not as good as the New York symphony. Well, we're doing the best we can. It's our symphony. We're proud of it. But I don't know if it'll ever be the London Philharmonic. But by golly, we got a pretty good symphony. And it's that kind of daily daily activity that makes the job kind of exciting. How do you how do you convert people? How do you say, well, you're now in Tucson, think like Tucsonans, you know,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=394.0,485.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: and now I want to bring up something that a lot of people don't know about Joe Valdez, you were a pretty good relief pitcher at the University of Arizona. Being an athlete and a pitcher, and that has that helped you somewhat in your direction in your career,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=486.0,501.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: athletics are probably the greatest character builder next to selling newspapers at Congress and stone 110 degree temperature. But you know, learning how to win is one thing learning how to lose gracefully is another. You notice this past week the quarterback for the U of A disobeyed a coach's instruction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=502.0,522.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, this problem will come on much later after this. But we're talking about the quarterback. It's this this 87 season, right","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=523.0,529.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: right 87 season, and he has the courage to say I made a mistake for a freshman in you know, heated you know, in the arena of competition. To then later say I made a mistake. I shouldn't and to me that indicates to me that that that young man Hammerschmidt there's gonna be somebody in the future because he has the courage to say I made a mistake. I will take a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=530.0,553.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: break right now Joan, we'll be right back. Talking about the influence of athletics in your job today As city manager, the major city in the United States, and you're talking about how learning how both to lose and when you do win and you do lose in your city council operations, don't","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=554.0,610.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: you constantly, you know, when you have an agenda of 150 items, and the council is looking at our material and our recommendations from the combined wisdom of all the staff. They approve 148 and either table or reject two of them. The two who were rejected to the individuals involved in those two feel kind of dejected, and I say, my goodness, you, you baton over 900 Wouldn't what is the problem here? We'll come back internet another time. But you have to learn how to accept the nose, you have to learn how to accept rejection. Nobody is Solomon, we do the best we can. But it's the elected officials who have to ultimately take the heat and make the decisions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=611.0,657.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I want to get talking about work in city government. Some of the problems that you face, I want to ask you, do you believe that in the city of this size, we get enough coverage on city administration and city council affairs by the media? And do you also think that the coverage is as well accurate?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=658.0,677.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Sometimes we feel that the that there isn't sufficient coverage. Other times where there's too much coverage being on the on the recipient end of the coverage? You know, it's very easy to say they should have said this should have said that being also having been in the newspaper business that you've got, you got deadlines to meet, that sometimes the reporter, you know, just doesn't have enough time to get that story out. And then when it gets to the desk, they only have so many column inches. And I've seen that many times because reporters will come back and say we we didn't write it that way. There was just so much ink available and so much space. And they cut out some of the salient points to the reader at the at the office, it made sense, but to the one in the field, and then the one doing the job. They missed out, you know, the paramount issue of the story, the most salient fact was missed. And it changed the entire complexion of the story. And I don't I have never met a reporter who was deliberately going out of just out of malice to write something that's wrong. It's it's a it's a multiple of factors that take that have to be taken into consideration when his story is being put together. If there's any fault that I would have with media today, is the use of the reporter in quest of journalistic prizes. And not really doing enough background before they write not not spending the time to dig out the public records because they're available. And they're free. All they have to do is ask. But that takes time. And in the old days. I remember under O'Meara, we didn't give the press packets until the day of the of the council about Roger Matt rod Mara","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=678.0,776.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: rose seeded US city manager gave","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=777.0,778.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: me my break. I mean, really, who opened the door for me. But he felt the reporters had the work. And today they get the entire agenda on a Wednesday when the council receives it. They have a Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. For the meeting on Monday, they could do the research, they could read up. Some do and some don't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=779.0,796.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I want to ask you a question in this vein, as number one Administrative Officer for the City of Tucson you have the option of of being a figure out in the public eye a great deal. But as as I've watched your career, you've kind of let the spotlight fall on councilmen and the mayor and you haven't sought to be out in the public eye a great deal. Am I correct about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=797.0,818.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: That's correct. It's been my style. They are the ones who elected not me. And they're the ones who should be out in the public eye. I get into it simply because I do most of the writing for for the material that goes to the council, and oftentimes the only one that's available. However, another thing that Roger Romero taught me was don't volunteer, but never lie. No. So I'm a poor source of information to reporters who are, you know, looking for a story. During the summertime, when summer sessions very slow. Reporters still have to write stories and that's when you really have some problems because they're they're digging, they have to earn a living and they got to create and, and sometimes they're very creative. And it does create some problems. But basically, I think they're, they've been pretty good. They've been pretty good to me personally. I've been good relations with them. As far as reporting on city affairs, sometimes I just don't think they they invest enough time and a lot of youngsters. They come in and take some three weeks to find the bathroom. And then they they get into some of the items and instead of a good reporter spotting that there's controversy there are conflict and zeroing in on it like a reporter. They just ignore it. Would you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=819.0,896.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: would you favor opening city council meetings to television such as we're now having from the House of Representatives. It started also in Britain with televising the sessions, which would you favor? opening that up?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=897.0,910.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: We have the council meetings on television, live television on channel 12. But then, but that's cable, and it's cable and the others want to do the price to do that was why we had to go to cable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=911.0,924.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: But do you think that a a television station, I'm talking about a major station, not cable, which is limited, limited access, should be spending more time covering Council matters? Sure,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=925.0,935.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: sure. Not just not just that at that council meeting, and not that they don't. It's just that the only time to see the major studios there? Excuse me is if there is some controversial item? And why is it that they only focus on controversy? Why not some of the items that are really neat, but no controversy?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=936.0,957.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Let me ask you from old newspapers standpoint, would television viewers focusing their eyes on old Cyclops and watching a council session? Would they be terribly bored by the proceedings?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=958.0,970.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: So I'm would be depending on the items. As I said, it's too bad that our society seems to focus only on negativism today, as it's the only thing that seems to turn us on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=971.0,980.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: We'll take a break right now and come back with some more city issues with Joe Valdez. I want to touch on two rather important subjects with you. One is Metro government. As Tucson continues to spread out across our Valley, do you feel that city and county government ought to be merged more than the few things they do together? Now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=981.0,1037.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yes, I do. I really believe that having been in the trenches now for these low almost 14 years, seeing how difficult it is to get people's people projects off the ground because of inter jurisdictional difficulties. But it makes good sense. And it may be heresy for me as a city manager to say we should do away with the farm and create something else. But I'm looking at it as a Tucson and first not as a city manager that there is there's a tremendous amount of waste. I call it waste in the duplication of services, particularly city and county. However, none of that should be achieved without involving the three other actors in the in the valley that's Oro Valley, Miranda and South Tucson. And all too often I've seen the city county things get together at the expense of omitting the participation of the others. And I feel very strongly that they as incorporated towns or cities have a right to their own destiny to and should not be excluded. But the issue of one form unique have something for this valley before it becomes Maricopa County, with the multiple jurisdictions that are up there. The Green Valley has talked about incorporating Catalina is now moving in that direction. And all that does is create more layers of government and inter jurisdictional problems","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=1038.0,1124.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: and doesn't doesn't end up as being more expensive to the taxpayer as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=1125.0,1128.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: In the long run. It's more expensive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=1129.0,1131.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: If you had your if you could lay out a plan now what would be a plan that you would propose in the orderly timetable for Metro government? What services would you begin with in combining?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=1132.0,1143.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, there's nothing wrong and one public safety function. We had fire or police. Those are the most expensive but one function. We could easily have one computer one purchasing one finance department one planning department we used to have city county planning was broken away in the 50s. Maybe if it hadn't, we wouldn't be in some of the planning issue messes that we have now. But there was one city county planning. We've done away with the joint sore city county that's one sewer agency and one water agency and moving in that direction. But the real real issue comes to allowing the people of the county to vote on the issue and the Board of Supervisors from my knowledge has never allowed the legislature or asked the legislature to pass the law that enables the Pima County Board to put her on the ballot yet advisory questions at least two I'm aware of inside the city has been passed by the voters, the last one, probably three to one vote in favor of Metro. And then with that, we went to the board and said, look, the people, the bulk of your constituents are inside the city. And they have suggested that we do this. Row officers have said no. You eliminate too many elected positions. So","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=1144.0,1219.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: that's what I wanted to ask you next about is the real stumbling block the loss of elected positions that that the political people will not allow Metro government they will not dissolve separate county officials and separate city officials. Absolutely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=1220.0,1232.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: It's turf. And the elected officials are pretty powerful with the legislature, the clerk's the assessor's the recorders, the as units around, they're pretty powerful the legislature and the county can only do that which the legislature allows it to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=1233.0,1251.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: So we have certain areas of country where County Metropolitan Government has merged counties and cities that have been successful. And I'm sure that you have studied some of those. How do we get around the problem of of, of the animosity of political officials from moving towards Metro,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=1252.0,1271.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: you have to have a different board of supervisors, at least three members willing to ask the legislature to let the people vote. That hasn't occurred yet. But there are examples, you know, San Francisco is kind of a city county of Miami, Denver, Metro Dade is another Indianapolis is a unit of Nashville Davidson County. And in those cases, you have basically what we've done here water and sewer to separate two jurisdictions. And the next phase then is going into just one government, maybe it's 13. member board, maybe it's whatever. But But that has to come from the people themselves. The people, the constituents saying enough is enough, they'll have to put the pressure on the elected officials, the city council's now and in the past have favored it, there's been no opposition to it. I have not opposed it, because it's not, you know, conserving position or titles or whatever. It said, I just think that it is a good way to go. It makes it makes sense. It's common sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=1272.0,1333.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: It's a natural to follow on this with what happens in the Tucson valley as we continue to grow. Where do you stand? And what do we do about the continuing fight of so forth growth versus no growth or growth versus limited growth? What what do we do to get together to preserve what we knew is Tucson?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=1334.0,1353.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I don't know if you can preserve what we knew it's gone? Isn't it gone? Except for the areas or some of the bodies around City Hall? The areas way out east and north that are not developing areas I knew as a kid, when you were infected with the why and the triangle, why and the kid programs, those areas are gone. Alright. How can you continue to allow and in migration of people who want to come here? And I can speak this way? Because I was born here. Therefore, how is it that we can allow others to come here to enjoy that which we knew we had, and still create a situation that doesn't preclude others from coming? Because growth is inevitable? It's gonna happen, it's coming? How do you control and how do you manage it, no matter how you cut it, when you get right down to the basic issue of growth, we're talking about jobs. And I've known no elected official or person running for elected office saying elect me, and I'm going to prevent jobs. They're all advocating jobs. I long fought for economic diversity in the community, because I was tired of seeing our kids believe, go through our school system, go through University of Arizona and then have to leave town because there's nothing here. Well, we have begun to diversify. And that effort is still pretty good. But it's it's growth versus no growth. Bottom line is jobs, and you can't avoid that. So it's whether you were born here, whether you just came here, and you're not disowning because you just left the realty office and you closed on your house, and I've got mine and nobody's gonna get anybody else. Well, that mentality, if anyone can ever figure out a solution to that, because it's not only here, it's all over the country. You know, there'll be millionaires as consultants, when we say our growth here is 3% or 4%. And I hear rumblings. You say two or 3% in Cleveland, and they're related. Right? So depends on where where you are, at what point in time in our history. But it's, it's a never ending battle, and it's a source of news.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=1354.0,1482.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: And we have a we do have an end to the program. And Joel, I want to thank you so much for being with us on eyewitness to history. And please join us again next week when we bring you another guest on eyewitness to history.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=1483.0,1636.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay, ready and 543","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=1637.0,1643.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: This week's eyewitness to history takes you to the story of man's development in Arizona. Dr. Evil W hairy one of the nation's most distinguished anthropologists will tell you the story of man in Arizona from 11,000 years back up to the current day be with us on eyewitness to history","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=1644.0,1673.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay, standby for the third one place ready for okay four, three.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=1674.0,1703.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: This week I witnessed a history brings to you a forgotten story of the contribution of Chinese pioneers and territorial days in Arizona. Our guest will be Esther Tang, the dynamic volunteer telling you a great story in history. So be with us on eyewitness to history.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=1704.0,1724.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Nice, very nice. Standby, please. 543.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=1725.0,1747.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: On eyewitness to history this week, the native born city manager of Tucson joins us to talk about the problems of a developing and growing city. Joe Valdez will give you candid opinions of where we are today and where we will be in the future be with us on eyewitness to history this week.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=1748.0,1765.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, good morning. well does the native born Hispanics tell them we're gonna purge them if they're not careful,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=1766.0,1812.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: purge purge because it's hard for me to handle these written scripts over and over again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=1813.0,1822.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay, here we go. Standby please in 543.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214#t=1823.0,1831.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74354/file/160214/transcript/38295/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: This week on eyewitness to history. We take a look at city government in Tucson with native born Joe Valdez, our city manager, speaking candidly and openly about the problems of growth in the city of Tucson. Be with us this week for a open discussion about Tucson with Joe Valdez on eyewitness to history. 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