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This is an oral history interview with Robert Medero. The interviewers are Carol Cribbett Bell and Kathleen Yep. Robert, we're just going to start with the first question. If you could tell us, what were the years that you lived in Barrio?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=0.0,17.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ROBERT MADERO: 1944 to 1964","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=18.0,23.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CAROL CRIBBET-BELL: What are some of your fondest memories of your time in this Barrio?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=24.0,28.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ROBERT MADERO: You know, back then you could go anywhere in the neighborhood anytime, and your parents didn't have to worry, you know, I was. I felt secure. My aunt lived right next.. my aunt lived right next door. My dad's sister, so I got to spend a lot of time with her, because when my dad got killed during the war, my mom had no job skills, so she used to clean houses, so Sundays through Thursdays, I'd stay with my grandmother, her mother, and she used to live like the annual Rio Golf. Fridays and Saturday, but when I started school, here in Carrillo School, my aunt, my dad's sister, lived right next door, so I'm home, I'd be, you know, I'd be with my aunt or my cousins, and something that's very important is that my friends, you know, we had there wasn't a gang, but we'd get together and their parents, you know, all the kids and everything, and I always remember my mom just a little bit for a start school, she was because we lived by them made in McCormick, and McCormick at that time sloped down, that's why they call it El Hoyo that's where El Hoyo is down McCormick Street in El Paso and Blenman and Gwynedd Street, all of those down there. That's El Hoyo. And she'd stand out, and she would yell out, you know. And if I didn't hear her, the parents heard her, you know, somebody else, and I said, Bobby, your mom's calling you, and I would go home. Very complicated, and we had meals together. One of the, one of the boys had a two-story house. His parents go up there, you know. We just look out the window street. That was the only two-story house in the neighborhood. It was was, it was great. We played in the streets. It wasn't, didn't have the traffic when I scrubbed up McCormick Street, and all those streets out there were still dirt streets. That's about it. It was a lot of fun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=29.0,183.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CAROL CRIBBET-BELL: Okay, games did you play, or okay?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=184.0,185.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ROBERT MADERO: Funny you should ask that, because I was thinking about that today. We used to play hide and seek, and we used to play kick the can, and I asked my daughters. I have your daughter said, \"Did you guys ever play kick the cans with your girls? What's that? And I used to tell them I used to play baseball in the street, and there was a big vacant lot running parallel to the railroad tracks, and we used to play football, baseball, and we were outside all day long, and my parents didn't worry about taking into much salvage and get sick. I don't ever remember having a headache, or my, all my friends, no complaining about headaches. And I remember my wife, when my daughters were growing up, they would say, \"No, she has to come in, and then sometimes they would complain about headaches and stuff. You know, we. I don't know what the difference","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=186.0,239.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: is, so","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=240.0,242.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CAROL CRIBBET-BELL: What did you have chores or jobs when you were growing up?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=243.0,246.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ROBERT MADERO: My chores were, I had to water outside, and I'd have to rake up the leaves. My sister and I used to take turns washing dishes, and I don't remember this, but my mom says that I would count all the utensils to make sure that I didn't wash more than she did, you know, but I don't remember that, and we had wooden floors because those houses were built on the foundation was lava rock and underneath they had like six by six wood and they would build a floor on that and the wood floors and we just got to shoot with my mom, you know, that was, and once in a while I had to help my mom hang the clothes out to dry. Other than that, it wasn't really, you know, and of course pick up after myself, so sometimes that can be a chore, or could be a chore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=247.0,305.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CAROL CRIBBET-BELL: Did you get an allowance for those chores?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=306.0,307.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ROBERT MADERO: No, no, I never did. Never asked one, never thought about it, never thought about it. I never lacked for anything, never. As far as I wanted to go somewhere, go to the movies. My mom would give me money. Time, I never carried money. I didn't need to buy something for lunch, and, like, you know, you go play with your friend or something, and whenever they had lunch, you automatically were part of the family. When the kids went to our house, and my mom would just say, \"Okay, time to eat, you know, wherever was with me, but she would feed wasn't elaborate, but it was good meat, good food.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=308.0,348.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CAROL CRIBBET-BELL: What were some special holidays in your family or traditions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=349.0,353.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ROBERT MADERO: Well, Christmas, of course, and like traditionally my mom had three brothers, and she had three sisters, and back then, because the families were not as large, but we of whom were younger, and we would get together at my mom's house on weekends, and I still look forward to that. My grandparents and my aunts have that was a traditional thing, but as a family got larger, it was a little bit more difficult, and then it just.. it just ceased.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=354.0,386.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CAROL CRIBBET-BELL: Do you have any memories of Las Posadas at Carrillo?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=387.0,389.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CAROL CRIBBET-BELL: Los Posadas, several, several times. mr. Collier was a lady that started it. It's my understanding. Not, I was back there. I don't know, I started Carrillo School, maybe in 1950 or 51 because I remember the Korean War was, was going on, and I forgot what grade I was in. I was, I was in the Posadas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=390.0,419.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CAROL CRIBBET-BELL: Do you remember anything about Mrs. Collier?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=420.0,422.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ROBERT MADERO: You know, that lady used to scare me because she had a loud voice. She always used to wear her hair in the bun, and the kids would say she would do it because she didn't have that ear. Of course, we believed it, but looking back, that had to be a lot of work for her.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=423.0,445.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CAROL CRIBBET-BELL: What parts did you do? You remember the parts that you had.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=446.0,448.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ROBERT MADERO: Well,I used to carry a little lantern on a stick. I used to wear white pants, a white shirt that they provided. I don't remember wearing a hat, but I used to carry a letter. I don't remember if I ever got to carry the, I guess it was the Virginia that was on there, but so long it doesn't know, and we used to go through the neighborhood, you know, we just stopped with other houses and sing, you know, it was, it was good memories.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=449.0,484.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CAROL CRIBBET-BELL: Do you have any memories of El Tiradito or La Pilita?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=485.0,489.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ROBERT MADERO: Well, you know what, I never really did stop there. I used to see it every day, going to school, coming to school. I used to see people over there light candles. I personally never did, and they used to say that it was haunted, you know, and all this sort of stuff, but I never stopped. It wasn't my thing, you know. Just growing up, I wanted to go have fun, I wanted to go play. Never thought about praying, you know, but you used to see a lot of, you used see people going in there and lighting candles.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=490.0,523.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CAROL CRIBBET-BELL: Anything about this building [La Pilita] at all?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=524.0,531.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ROBERT MADERO: You know, what I was trying to remember. I don't remember whether it was this building or the one that used to be on the corner next to the building here, and there was a family that lived here, and I vaguely, and I can see the girl's face. I think her name was Mary, used to live here, very, very light complected, and she was a very nice girl. She was maybe a year younger than myself, but then she moved away, and I lost track, and I really don't. I remember I had a fence in the front, but that's about all that I remember, and the corner right there. Remember there used to be like a bakery corner, had wood floors, because we used to wear taps and bumpers on our shoes, and they were thick soles that we made a lot of racket.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=532.0,590.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CAROL CRIBBET-BELL: Do you have any memories of Trujillos? Was the market opened at that point?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=591.0,594.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CAROL CRIBBET-BELL: Oh, yes, I remember the old man. We used to go over there and buy popcorn. And Salamitas with Lemon and with Florence, and I knew a couple of his daughters, because they were friends of my sister, my older was the older and I was a girl, I remember, but her real name was used to call her Pink, but that was about it, and they used to live right next door on the west side, was their house, it was an alley there, and their house was on the west side, in the corner, but you know, we used to go in there, and, like I said, pick popcorn, especially I like popcorn, so I used to buy a little bag, I don't remember, pickle, maybe","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=595.0,637.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CAROL CRIBBET-BELL: were there any other shops that your family shopped at, of course. You mean here? Yeah. Yes,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=638.0,645.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ROBERT MADERO: we lived, like I said, we lived on the corner of Minnie McCormick. East of Maine was a street called Myers Street. I mean, it's still there, but there used to be two Chinese stores, one catty corner to each other, one on the north west and one on the southeast, and then further up the one on the north was Trace Market, and then maybe I don't know, 30 yards north of there was another market called Star, and we used to go to both, we used to go to both stores, and my mom had, like, I wrote a tab, you know, you would go over there and tell me what to get, and they would put it on it, you know, and I would sign it, and I'd give it to my mom, and then once a month, my mom would go in there. You know, what I can't. I don't know where this","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=646.0,711.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: 220 song were","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=712.0,720.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CAROL CRIBBET-BELL: lot of them. Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=721.0,724.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CAROL CRIBBET-BELL: Do you remember a Chinese temple in the neighborhood? Yes,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=725.0,728.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ROBERT MADERO: it used to be on Main Avenue, just south of Broadway, and then there was another one, maybe about a couple 100 yards south of the one that I'm talking about. I mean, both were on Main Avenue. The first one was my address was 244 South Main, so I would say there were. I don't know, maybe 100 South Main or something, you know, and they used to gather there, and then they had, then they had another one built on also on Main, except that was on the east side of the street, up a little bit north of there,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=729.0,781.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CAROL CRIBBET-BELL: um I'm wondering if you could share some of your thoughts on urban renewal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=782.0,791.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ROBERT MADERO: I would say I started hearing about urban renewal when I was just a little kid, but it didn't start happening till the 60s, and they offered people outrageous pittances, let's say, for the property, and if it hadn't been for a gentleman called Eddie Jacobs, he was a businessman, and he got word to the neighborhood, and he said, \"You know, don't sign any papers. I'd like to have a meeting with you. And so we had a meeting, and everything, and people that represented the parties that were trying to buy the property were there, and they said, well, let us have your property, we'll condemn it, and we'll give you the price that's that we are offering you, and but we'll get you some more money, and we have hired a lawyer, and he said, okay, go ahead and do that, well, my my mom was one of the last houses to be knocked down, and she said she used to get scared because it was, you know, nobody else around anyway. She moved out, and a few months later, you know, I called these people, these people, I said, \"What happened? You know, you said that, you know, you were going to give the people more money, and my mom hasn't heard from anything, and their story was, well, the gentleman that made that offer to you didn't have the authority, that's where it stayed, so my mom went. Newspaper called the Endovignon, and he would read it into the front and read it. Oh, there was another two people would sit out front of their houses, you know. 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Anyway, they said that when you used to, there was a, there was a little street there that now is, I guess it's not a street, because you take it to go back into the parking lot, but they said that you went through there, you had to walk the wheel, and you know, real quiet, not make any noise, because if you did, then the dead people that were in there would move their feet like this, you know, better answer, it'll be quiet, but that was that was that was a problem for my family that I remember.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=1281.0,1348.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CAROL CRIBBET-BELL: Do you remember Mother Higgins at all?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=1349.0,1350.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ROBERT MADERO: Yes, I do remember the, you know, I had friends that wound up there. We used to go over there, and sometimes they would yell out, they knew you, but we didn't play around that, that was across the tracks, and they were starting to build up, build the highway on 10, so that I do remember that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=1351.0,1381.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CAROL CRIBBET-BELL: Are you still in touch with any of your friends that you spent night with them?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=1382.0,1385.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ROBERT MADERO: You know, what good friend of mine is Eddie Flores. Eddie is older than I am, but I remember he has a younger sister, and that sister graduated with my wife from high school, and we lived here. I had friends that lived in this neighborhood, but other than Eddie, I haven't seen anybody else. So I said, you know, people had to move out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=1386.0,1417.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CAROL CRIBBET-BELL: We might get asked this question because we have a youth core over here, and they always like to know what advice you might have for them today. 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They would let him walk to school, because things changed different times, but enjoying life. Another thing that I tell the girls, you know, be quick to love, quick to forgive, and treat other people the way you like to be treated, and I'm a Christian, so I like to listen to Christian, but there's this thing, stinking thinking, if you don't, if you don't think about it, plus you know, being angry and bitter and forgiveness and. Know, just aside from releasing bad chemicals into your body, you know, it's just a bad feeling. It's a waste of energy, a waste of time. You know, you could have a good relationship with somebody that did you wrong, you know, one day if you just forgive them and you got to know them, because that's happened to me. I've been guilty of that, so pass it off to my god. daughters, my oldest was born in 66 so she's 42 she'll be 42 this August, and then my second one is 40, and then I have a 30 year old that's a teacher to Sanai, never ever ever thought that's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=1435.0,1542.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 3: great","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=1543.0,1543.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ROBERT MADERO: job. Do what you have to do a million dollars a day miserable. This has been","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=1544.0,1559.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CAROL CRIBBET-BELL: wonderful. Is there anything that you would like to add or talk about that we didn't ask you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=1560.0,1565.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: Well, no, but you know what I would do. I would take a lot of pictures. I wish I had that. 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This was wonderful,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=1602.0,1611.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ROBERT MADERO: that Macomb Street used to be dirt, and when it rained a lot, I remember the monsoons, when it would rain for not, it rained for two weeks every day, and now it's not like that. Why? I don't know, but there used to be a ravine running parallel to the railroad tracks. 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Well, I'll ego","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=1662.0,1664.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ROBERT MADERO: father, and they used to have an on Myers Street. There was, they had their nightclubs, but we would walk there at the Fox Theater. They had what they call a Bed Night Horror Show, and we used to walk through there to go over there. My parents never worried.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=1665.0,1685.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CAROL CRIBBET-BELL: So, if you were African American or black, and you lived in Barrio Viejo, those children would be in front of your house, and the best would pick them up and take them to Dunbar. Did you ever play with the children? 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So school it out that summer, we came back following year, first grade, and my kids were there, and just like they had always been there, no problem, you know, kids are kids, and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=1698.0,1729.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CAROL CRIBBET-BELL: what year was that? 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They were harsh, but they said, 'No, no Spanish, just English. They're chewing gum, couldn't chew gum, and I. I was left handed, and I used to write like this. When I got into the fifth grade, the teacher's name was mr. Raphael. He was left handed, and he broke down that habit. He would tell me, you know, turn to write like this, and every time he walked by, if I was like this, he had a rumor. He didn't hit me, he just touched my hand to remind me, and he broke me at that habit. He also taught a square dancing. I thought that was a lot of fun. It wasn't him, but it was, it was fun. He taught all his classes how to square dance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=1784.0,1835.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CAROL CRIBBET-BELL: I love that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=1836.0,1837.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ROBERT MADERO: Yeah, it was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=1838.0,1839.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CAROL CRIBBET-BELL: Did you, sorry, did you have milk delivery and ice delivery?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=1840.0,1846.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ROBERT MADERO: Yes, we did. They used to deliver the milk, ice. We didn't have, you know, we had a refrigerator. I remember my grandmother, she used to have ice delivered to her house, and another thing that I remember, too, growing up is that I used to see the Native Americans come off the reservation in their, in their horsedrunk wagons, and on the corner of Maine and Congress. It's a big haunted hut, and it was a beach store, and they would go in there and buy supplies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=1847.0,1888.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CAROL CRIBBET-BELL: Did you have any animals around your house at all?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=1889.0,1891.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ROBERT MADERO: No, you know, because our house was built on, like I said, on six by sixes, you know, there was room underneath, you know, that cats would get in there, and sometimes, you know, they sounded like little kids, little children, I mean, babies, you know, and they start either fighting or making noise down there. If it woke us up, you know, my sister and I would sit up, because we, my sister and I said one room, we'd sit up and turn around a bit, and then start going like this, pounding the floor to scare him away, and once in a while, when a cat died, there, you know, the smell would come in. So it was my duty to go under there and get it and throw it away, get rid of it. And because we never had a dog, and we never.. because of that, I grew up without any, many pets, I now? One time we had to fill it. 10 Chihuahuas at our house because of our, of our daughters and grandchildren suckered into it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950#t=1892.0,1894.0"}]},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3761/collection_resources/174413/file/313950/transcript/95167/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/095/167/original/azu_ms853-002.vtt?1783555030","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/095/167/original/azu_ms853-002.vtt?1783555030"}]}]}]}