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I was born in 1935 here in Tucson, Arizona. My family came to Tucson, not Tucson. It was Tubac at the time. They came there in around 1774, they came from Spain, and they settled in in Tubac, and that's where our Pacheco family got started. I believe they stayed there till around 16. No, I'm sorry. I'm guessing now, I believe it was around around 1810, or right in there they came to, which is now Tucson.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/150627/file/277793#t=0.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/150627/file/277793/transcript/81361/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUNKNOWN SPEAKER:\u003c/strong\u003e Stories told about my parents. Well, I remember one story about my dad. He was a hard working man,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/150627/file/277793#t=60.0,66.0"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/150627/file/277793/transcript/81361/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUNKNOWN SPEAKER:\u003c/strong\u003e and he was well respected, very well respected, and I was very proud of him. It was a pleasure to me be around him. The old Mexican ranchers. There was several of them. There was the arrows family. They had their ranch in Sasabe, and there was the Ronstadt. They actually the Ronstadt. Were Johnny come lately. They weren't. They don't go back that far. They came in from Mexico and the Who else, let's see. Oh, the Robles family. They were they were big. They were big. And the Aguirre family, I don't recall them ever telling stories about that, but I would imagine they were probably that way. For instance, this area we're in right now, this was a career family, family. This was all their property in here. It was fun times for me. I was a little kid, and I just loved every bit of it. I could hardly wait to get the heck out of school so I could go to the ranch. And I was raised with a lot of the old Mexican cowboys, because that's all there was in those days. They were all Mexican cowboys, and the gringos were Mexicans because they mixed with them, and they knew the language and the whole works. And so it was a very enjoyable area. And the ranch that I was raised on, which was the other side of silver bell mountains, West Side of silver bell mountains, my dad had that valley in there. And the only thing that the boundaries were. One side was the Indian Reservation, the Papago Indian Santa Rosa reservation, and that was on the south side of the ranch. To the north side of the ranch was","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/150627/file/277793#t=66.0,174.0"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/150627/file/277793/transcript/81361/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUNKNOWN SPEAKER:\u003c/strong\u003e Casa grandes, and to the east side was a Kenny ranch. To these side, yes, I'm sorry, east side was a Kenny ranch. They had their ranch there too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/150627/file/277793#t=174.0,187.0"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/150627/file/277793/transcript/81361/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUNKNOWN SPEAKER:\u003c/strong\u003e And those were, those were the ranches in that area. And my growing up in that area, I got to know a lot of I was very fortunate there. I got to know a lot of the guys. And those are the memories that I have now. I remember one time my dad sent me to the ranch. I mean, I had a horse in the back of the we had what they call a Bobtail truck, and those were stakes trucks, and you loaded cattle on those. They were called bobtails, and we had a Bobtail truck, and he sent me to the ranch. Well, the Santa Cruz River was running, and like a damn fool, I unloaded the horse and jumped in the way in the Santa Cruz river. And boy, I found out that you damn sure drowned doing that. And when my dad found out about it, that rear end got a little rough. Sixth and 16th, my dad built that house for my mother when they first got married, he bought that lot and and he built the house her. Her mother lived right directly across the street, and she didn't want to go far from her mother's house. So he bought that lot for and he built the house for there. And I remember, I remember as a kid for pizza on Sunday, right down the street on 16th was Eagle field. And the Indians used to come with wagons and pass by there, by our kitchen there, on the way to Eagle field to drop off wood, we had cotton and we had alfalfa. So we had, we were actually a farming, ranching type of operation. And when we went on horseback, we were out irrigating, and it was just a combination of everything. We'd ride fancy, ride horseback on fences, but we'd ride checking the fences and, uh. Driving. I never did pick cotton. I never did do they were all Mexican boys. Matter of fact, that Gree Calva, who's now the congressman from Arizona, he was born on that ranch. Now he wasn't born there, he but he lived there when he was first a little kid, baby. He his father was my dad's foreman. They went to town once a month. They had, they had Sundays off. Said we had because all the ranchers know they gave Sunday off. But even on Sundays, they worked. You know, they were bored. They had nothing else to do, so they'd work. And it was like, once again, it was enjoyable to be around them. They were hell of a good men, good men.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/150627/file/277793#t=187.0,361.0"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/150627/file/277793/transcript/81361/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUNKNOWN SPEAKER:\u003c/strong\u003e He had an uncle that was one heck of a good cowboy. God, he was a good cowboy. He could train a horse like you wouldn't believe his uncle did. His father was a cowboy, but he was he wasn't as good as his brother. My experience at the U of A I got to meet a lot of the young men that were ranchers from all over the state, and became friends with a lot of them, till, naturally, they all passed away. Now, but I'm not the only one left, but that's what I remember most about it. They told us at the U of A you boys coming off the ranches, you know more than these were the professors talking. They said, You boys coming off the ranchers know more than we do. And it was true, we did. We knew more than the professor did, because we lived the life every day. And so all they said, when they said to us, was, we could teach you technology. That's what we can teach you. I was in school at the U of A and when the time came to go back to the ranch, we were we all went back to the ranch. So we really didn't have any time to experience, really anything big. The Rodeo club was established to have fun. That's what it was established for. There was no really big deal about it. It was just a it was just a gathering of all the guys from the ranches. And women would come from California. A lot. They were, there was quite a few women in the well, they were actually in the Home Ec, which was right across the street from the Ag college. And they'd come over to the Ag college and cook for us. You know, that was a lot of fun when I managed the Apache Indian reservation at San Carlos. I believe that was in 7074 in 74 I believe that was here. I'm an old man. I forget a lot of these things now. But anyway, it was, it was hard to do. It was very hard to do for the simple reason, it was a huge reservation, little over 2 million acres, I believe it is. And they had what they called the mineral rights area, which was the south side of the reservation of the San Carlos reservation homes, where the main offices are at San Carlos. And that was a big outfit there too, and it was just very hard to do working with them. The Apache Indians were a different breed of cat, and they were very lazy, and you couldn't depend on them to do the job up there. And so I was already having fond memories of them up there. I was there two and a half years, three years, they had a bad saying. They called the government uncle sugar. And that's what, that's why they didn't work. Uncle sugar took care of the cattle. They had general stores. I did that too. He managed that too, which was not very successful, but I did it. And that's, that's all it was. That was, that was the industry right there. There was no other industry on the reservation except that you were on your own there. And I can't say that I had, I had some good friends the Apache on the Apache Tribe. Bob key was a big fat guy. God, I love that guy. He was the greatest he and I went everywhere to go on the reservation, and if we had to travel down to Peridot, we'd go down to Peridot, which is on the reservation. And we are, we're always together. We had a lot of fun together, and we did some pretty good work. I think when my dad's. Sold the ranches. I didn't know what I was going to do with me, so I started putting out flyers all over the United States, and I got interviewed in Florida. I got interviewed in Texas. I got interviewed in Michigan, and then I got interviewed by the San Simeon ranch in California. And they the San sim they all these places. They all flew me to these different places. And when I flew, they flew me from Tucson to send to San Simeon. Well, not San sim they actually another little town. I can't remember which it the name of it is where they had an airport there. But I stayed there at the castle, down below in the guest house. I stayed there, I think four days I was there. And my wife was with me at the time they took We took her to down there. And that was right at the time of the of the Patty Hearst kidnapping. It was right at the same time, and like I said, I was interviewed for that ranch. I turned it down. Phoebe hears that was her name. I knew she and I wouldn't, and she was the one who was running the ranch, and I knew darn well we wouldn't get along. So I turned it down. I knew Charlie Day through my my dad, my dad knew him real well, and I got to meet I was, I was just a little kid when I knew him. I was probably, what, 1012, years old, and he seemed like a very pleasant man. And I know that they had a ranch right there in Vail, someplace where the golf course is now. That was their ranch when I took over the livestock auction there on 29th Street. It was a cattle gathering place. They kept the cattlemen all used to gather there, and they'd come in on Saturdays when we had our auction. And we sold horses, we sold pigs, we sold everything there, all livestock. We sold and once again, it was a great experience, because I got to travel all over southern Arizona, meeting the ranchers so they'd bring cattle to my auction. It was a very interesting experience for me as a young man. I was what? I was 20? No, no, I was in my 30s. I was in my 30s when I did, when I took that auction over. My dad owned the property. My dad, John, Joe King. Joe King and my dad were partners on that Ralph Wakefield, who had the ratchet at Nogales. Ralph was a big, big cattle man, and matter of fact, I bought cattle for Ralph when I was a 19 years old. The cattle industry lost its step when the auction houses moved out of the Tucson area and moved out of town entirely. Now there's an auction there at Marana hood, very successful, by the way, but they were here in Tucson and they moved out. And when they moved out, that was the end of it, right there. The other auction house is it at Wilcox, and that's that's about it. No, I believe there's one in Prescott also. And that's about it for the cattle industry around here. What the negative was on that particular situation was that the cattlemen didn't gather anymore. In other words, you didn't know who they were anymore, and it was a hard time. There was to see everything go. It was hard, it was hard, it was hard to see everything go, because they've been such a cow town for so many years. Tucson was a well known cow town at one time. These were all feeder cattle, what they call feeder cattle. Once they got ready for the for the market, they were put into feed lots. Phoenix was big feedlot area, big market. Phoenix was a big area for feed lots, big area, and most of the cattle went there and they were finished, what we call finishing, and then they went to the slaughterhouse. From there, the interesting people that I met were in California. For instance, there's a picture of Ben Johnson right there, who was big in the movies with John Wayne and that picture right up on the top there, that guy looking out with his hat on, that was Casey Tibbs, and he they, both of these guys were friends of mine, and Casey was five times world's champion a bronc rider. They said today, they even say today, people say nobody's ever had a style like he did when it came to Bucha horses. And those were all friends of mine. There was an old man by name of John Rhodes. Now, John was one of the last survivors of Tewksbury, the Pleasant Valley war, and John was a friend of my dad's. John came to buy. The cattle, the calf crop from my dad one year. And I had little old rope that I had. There was a clothesline rope, what it was, and I was playing with that. And John went to his car, because in those days they didn't use trucks. They used cars, trucks, they weren't even heard of. And anyway, he pulled up the tailgate of his car there, and he pulled out a rope, and he gave it to me. He said, he said, here, I just won the world championship with this rope. And John gave me that rope. But John was he and his son, Tommy Rhodes were world champions. They were from Arizona. They were Arizona boys. John's Ranch, was it? Matter of fact, one of his ranches was at Benson, and then the other one was at Mammoth. I remember I heard the story. I don't know how true or nice, but I heard the story that John was a little baby and he was a Tewksbury.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/150627/file/277793#t=361.0,962.0"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/150627/file/277793/transcript/81361/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUNKNOWN SPEAKER:\u003c/strong\u003e And John, old man, Rhodes came in and killed his mother and dad, okay, and he took Johnny and made him his own son, and that's how he got the name Rhodes. There was a cowboy here. His name was buckshot Sorrells, and buckshot was one hell of a cowboy. He won championships and everything. And I mean, World Champions. I'm not talking about local I'm talking about World Championships. And buckshot was from from the Patagonia area, and I remember my dad one time bought the cattle, and buckshot threw in a few of his own, and his dad didn't know about it, and he said, No. He said, No, those don't go those belong to him, and he's not selling them yet. I remember my dad told me that story. There was another one. His name was Ramon Uma, and he was the first Mexican inducted into the Hall of Fame in Oklahoma City, the Cowboy hall of fame in Oklahoma City. He was in this area, right here in the in the Nogales area, that's where he was from, very famous. And he was also a friend of my dad's. And I was in there. I went in there several years ago, and I saw that, and I'll tell you what that brought deer in my eye, the closest he had with my dad. They were great friends my dad, matter of fact, I think my dad was his best friend at his wedding. I didn't know him. I was too small. I didn't know him. But I remember my dad talked about him all the time. They said there was nobody like him. There was an old man who was a drunk here in town, and he was always running from the law. He was he was always selling liquor to the Indians, and he was always running from the law. And He'd ride up to my dad's house in town, and my dad's bedroom was right off the main street of Sixth Avenue there, and he'd ride up on his horse and ask him to loan him some money. He said he had some Indians he had to buy some liquor for and I asked him one time, he was working for my Hey, he was a hell of a cowboy. God, he was good. He was a good cowboy. And I asked him one time, I said, How the heck did you ever get caught when you went all the way to Prescott on horseback, he said, I said, a horse doesn't last that long. He said, You dumb kid. First I used to steal horses on the way up there. Yeah, he was a heck of a cowboy. I met my wife at a dude ranch here in town. We got married, and she had four boys, and brought those boys. We went and lived on the ranch there. And all of a sudden, checks started coming in, 500 here, 1000 there, every day in the mail, every day in the mail, these checks were coming in. And I asked her one day, where does all this money come from? She said, Well, she said, my father's of Stouffer frozen foods. They lived not too far from Mar a Lago. As a matter of fact, her mother lived close to mar a Lago in Florida, and we were there a couple times in Florida, and they the business itself. The Stouffer family was from Cleveland, Ohio, and we would, we were there a couple times to Cleveland. There was a hotel in downtown Tucson called the Westerner hotel, I believe was on, on, on Broadway and Scott, no, I'm sorry, was stone, stone Avenue, Broadway, stone Avenue. And it was a fun place to go to. They had all kinds of music here on weekends, and it some pretty famous names came out of there. I can't think of which one in particular right now, except Lalo Guerrero, which is a Mexican he was a Mexican singer, but well known. Boy, heck of a nice guy. Matter of fact, he had a right. He had a nightclub in Palm Springs. When he died, the tidelands hotel, my cousins all used to show up there every Saturday after the auction, and we'd all go there and have a lot of drinks. And we had an enjoyable time there at the tidelands hotel, and that was right there on stone emerald. Also, my cousins were all from ranching families. They were from the Aguirre family and the amado family. There was also a cattle hangout that tidelands was. I started playing around with rodeo when I was around 60 years old, and I had to wait all that time for one good reason, my dad, he knew all the rodeo cowboys that used to come to town, all right. He knew them all. But he also also told me, Don't you hang around with those guys, because all they come to do is get fights and get drunk in town. And it which was true, it was true. And so he wouldn't let me. I showed up a trailer one time with a horse trailer at the ranch there one time, and he said, What are you gonna do with that? I said, I'm gonna take my horse. I'm gonna go roping. Said, Okay, take your clothes to and get the hell out of here. Don't come back. That's what he told me. Yeah. But anyway, I started playing around with rodeo when I was in my 60s. That's when it got interesting to me. I wasn't really interested younger than that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/150627/file/277793#t=962.0,1292.0"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/150627/file/277793/transcript/81361/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUNKNOWN SPEAKER:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I won a few. I won 15. Bucha, California, Nevada, New Mexico, I got buckles from all those places. I was very fond of the rodeos in California because I always had good luck there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/150627/file/277793#t=1292.0,1312.0"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/150627/file/277793/transcript/81361/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUNKNOWN SPEAKER:\u003c/strong\u003e Arizona, for some reason, I never could have good luck here. Never did have luck here. Cried like Sonoita Tucson rodeo. Never could have had luck, but California was almost a sure thing, and there was some pretty good cowboys there in California. Matter of fact, California, I hate to say it is a bigger cattle state than Arizona is. There are much more cows cowboys in California, and there are here. When I was 74 years old, I was working cattle over in San Juan Capistrano. And I was going to coming down a hill to check some cattle. They were down below on the hill there, and the horse, the grass was so high we couldn't see where we were going. I couldn't see where we were going to horse probably could, but I couldn't see where we're going. And the horse stumbled, and he fell, and he fell right on top of me, and that was five miles from the ranch. I'm sorry it was three miles from the ranch, and the horse fell on top of me, and I'm gonna put my eye out. And they had to fly me into Tucson because I didn't want to stay here in California, because I knew I was going to have to recoup, and I didn't want to stay there. So they flew me back into Tucson, and there was a Chinese doctor here in town that did a job on my eye today. That eye is better than the other one. You","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/150627/file/277793#t=1312.0,1403.0"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/150627/file/277793/transcript/81361/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUNKNOWN SPEAKER:\u003c/strong\u003e his name was Ignacio Pacheco. He's the one that started the clan for all of us, and that was in, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, guess he started the clan probably about nine the 18, 1800 he established a brand called a diamond Bell brand, and a diamond Bell brand has been in the Pacheco name for over 220 years. It's still into today. We still have that brand today, and it it's a very sentimental brand to all of us. It's very sentimental, and I hope that it continues to be in the family after I'm gone. A diamond Bell brand was established in 1808, in two, back Arizona, right there, where, where the the deaf and blind school is on on speedway. I remember as a little kid, I was with my dad. We were on our way to the ranch, and I saw a little bit of farming in that area. And I asked my dad about that. He said, he said he and my dad. He said, My dad and I, we used to farm that area, and which was now Bucha Pacheco. That was his his father. I've been told that there was two land grants, but we've never been able to find which, where they are. The tres Alamos land grant, I believe it was a land grant, I'm guessing, but I think I'm right on it. The tres Alamos land grant, which is Benson. So that was Marcos Pacheco, and he was either a cousin or a brother of my grandfather was either a cousin or a brother of Marcos, and he was the cattle man. My grandfather was the politician. My grandfather now Bucha was the first Hispanic sheriff of Tucson. And when he he was there from 18, from 1908 1904 to 1908 and when he left there, he became a town Marshal, and he was always in politics. He got into a lot of fights with with the the the councilman of town, and they always wrote him up in the paper as being right. There was several articles in the paper that used to come out, and how he got into this is this scrap with this one, how he got into this scrap with this one? But they always said he was always right, old man Manning, who owned the canola Ranch, he couldn't stand my my dad, because my dad always stuck up for the little Mexican ranchers around him. And Manning wanted to control everything and matter of fact, old man Manning hired a professional gun from Texas. And this story, I've heard from several people, not just one. I heard from a lot of people, just to this story, I'm going to tell you, they say that they were having a rodeo at my dad's ranch. It was a gathering. You wouldn't even call it a rodeo. They're just having a good time with her. And a lot of people were invited. So as my mom and dad are coming down from the ranch to come in, back into town, because he was going to drop her off and then go back to the ranch, and all of a sudden there was gunfire, and there were shots fired at him, my dad told me a story. He said, When I was riding in the Cerrito mountains, which is south of Tucson here, he said, When I was riding up there on the ranch, he said, I saw a guy looking at me on horseback up on a hill. He said, I tried to get to him, he said, but every time I got close to him, he was gone. And at one time the guy stayed. And he said, I was hired by Manning to kill you, he said, but I see that you're a good man. And I'm telling you, get away from Manning. Well, Manning took my dad to court. Manning claimed. Manning claimed that my dad had stole cattle and they found the hides in a mine shaft on the ranch on my dad's ranch, and I've got papers in my office back there. I've got papers right there where many, many families put up their houses as collateral to keep my dad out of jail. There was a lot of old Mexican people that put their houses up, and they took my dad to court, but they he was found innocent, and it was all man old man Manning from the canola ranch. When they got court, old man Manning was right there in front of the Valley Bank downtown, and my dad passed by there and just whipped him right there. My grandfather's other son was he, matter of fact, the eldest of the of the three boys, four boys, four boys, the eldest of the four boys. He was Nabor also, and the story goes that I heard that he was working the cattle for the city of Tucson, which in the Santa Rita Mountains. The city of Tucson had cattle up there in the Santa Rita's and a horse bucked him off and hit his head and let them a little bit goofy. When they found him, they brought him into town. He was like, I say he was a little bit goofy from that fall. And apparently he was in love with a prostitute here in town, and she was he found him with she he found the woman with another man, and he shot him both and killed him. And they told they told my grandfather, navor, you have to bring your son in. He said, Here's my badge. I'm no longer your sheriff. And he said, No, sir, you're a good man. Put your badge back on. My uncle Da war, they sent him to prison. He went to Yuma prison, which apparently at that time, was a hell hole. And I got to meet him one time. We went to California one time, and he was living in California. He left Arizona, never came back, and I got to meet him one time, great, big, tall man, good looking son of a gun. God, he was a good looking man. I. He must have been, oh, I'm going to say, six foot four, big man, and very pleasant, but very quiet. Never said a word to you. You had to bring everything out of him. And that was the last time I ever saw him with the time that I met him there. After that, he died. He died shortly after that, but my dad never talked about him much. My grandfather was presented a pistol. I don't know the year that it was given to him. I don't remember that, but it was a silver engraved pistol with a mother of pearl handle on it was given to him the city of Tucson had it made special for him, and they gave it to him. And I inherited that gun. And I got to thinking one day, what, who's going to take this gun when I die? Who? What's going to happen with it? It'll probably go into some underneath somebody's bed somewhere. I said, Hell, I'm going to sell it. And I sold it, and I got a hell of a lot of money for it. An auction house in New York City contacted me. Oh, I'm sorry, I contacted them first, and then they were very interested in the gun, and they did handle a lot of equipment or memorabilia like that. And they asked me about the gun, and I said, I'll sell it. I'll sell it, but I want, I want so much for it. And so I asked him for 35,000 that's what that was, my price on it. And they sold it for 50,000 and gave me the 50,000","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/150627/file/277793#t=1403.0,1906.0"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/150627/file/277793/transcript/81361/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUNKNOWN SPEAKER:\u003c/strong\u003e it was known as RM Ricardo Monteverde Pacheco. His mother was Carmen Monteverde. She was from Hermosillo, Mexico, and her family was started by her grand, her her father, I'm sorry, her father, he came in from Italy. He was 15 years old, and he landed from Italy. He landed in Weymouth. When he was in Weymouth, he went into the pearl diving business. Made a lot of money in the pearl diving business. Then he went into the ranching business, and that's why he got started. As far as wealth is concerned. Apparently, he was a very wealthy man. I didn't know the man. His daughter married one of the ex presidents of Mexico, and the other daughter was related to the Robinson Bohr family of Mexico, which is a very, very big they're big in poultry. That's how they they're the Heinz people of Mexico. I don't know that my dad or even his wife, which was my grandmother. I mean, my grandfather. I don't know if either one of them ever knew about their wealth, her wealth, her wealth. One of the Presidents with the President that was a very, I can't remember his name, but he was a very hated president in Mexico, so when he got when his term was up, he got out of Mexico and moved to Newport Beach, California, built a house there in Newport Beach, California. And a matter of fact, I understand that house still stands. I've got another cousin who has pictures of the house. And my grandmother died there at that house in there, she was brought back to Tucson, but she died there, and she's buried here at the holy hope ceremony the cemetery. That's an interesting part of my family that I never knew anything about. Nobody ever talked about it. No, I never knew it. I read this. I have a cousin who did some investigation, and he's the one that told me about it. I've read his books around 1940 41 my dad had already bought the ranch here at what we call it, green's reservoir. That's where it was located. And the reason it got the name of Green's reservoir Colonel Green, who had the cananea Cattle Company in Mexico, and here at the Patagonia, big, big outfit, Colonel green and Manning decided they were going to block the Santa Cruz river right there and irrigate all that land. Well, the first flood that came along, boom, there goes the bad the dam that they built, and they called it Green's reservoir. That's where my dad's Ranch was. Okay? Green's reservoir in 1940 I believe was 40, he called in the University of Arizona to look and see if there was any water. Some welders or famous people from the U of A, I can't remember who they were, so. But they they went to the ranch. They said, Oh, this desert isn't that. There's nothing to it. Forget it. Don't even bother to think about putting wells in here. There's no water here. He said, Hell, there's not he said. And he brought in a guy by name of white out of Eloy, who had a well drilling company. He struck water at 150 feet, and we big irrigation wells we had on the ranch. What I'm most proud of is of the people that I met that's a very important thing to me. And I've I've been fortunate enough to meet some pretty influential people and some pretty good people who are downright neighborly. And I remember as a kid, at Christmas time, you had cousins here, cousins there, all over. You had to go to each one of their houses. And if you didn't eat, you were in trouble. You had to eat at each one of their houses. When you got home, you were like this, but that was traditional. That wasn't just my family, that was his family. 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