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Aspen discusses her travels through the Artic both by herself and as a girl with her parents. She published a book called Artic Daughter. She discusses the book, the process of writing it, and getting it published and distributed. 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Welcome to Arizona alumni forum. Today we're going to meet two exciting former UVA students who have chosen unusual ways to make their living as one's an artist living in Yuma the others, an explorer and an author who's explored the Arctic. First, let me introduce you Susan l. t. Brown. She attended the University of Arizona back in 79, and 80. And she works in an art form called Anna masters. I got that right. And I, Susan, good to have you with us. Thanks for joining us today. That's a new word for most of us tell us all about the word Anna masters?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=41.0,70.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, it took a little bit of thinking, but what we did, we roundtable that with my family members. And we decided that in order to describe what I'm doing, what we actually needed to do was put several words together. So it really means animal mask sculptures, okay. And although some of the masks are of human form, and really the animals are making human statements, we felt that that were pretty much encompassed what I'm doing, too,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=71.0,102.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: let's talk about masks in general for a little bit, Aren't you interested in masks get going?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=103.0,108.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: That's a very good question. I would say that. Before the masks, I actually was interested in working in some sort of, of modeling substance. And of course, at a very early age, I started doing actually little animals created little animals out of clay. And all through my art background I have gradually built upon making different types of animals actually drawing them in watercolors and in oils. And finally, I really found myself being drawn to the faces, the eyes, the mouths of, of animals.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=109.0,152.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: The idea of using animals as mass, I mean, gosh, goes back through time, doesn't it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=153.0,156.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yes, it sure does. The very first masks that are recorded we're about 17,000 years ago, in South Western France, in some of the cave paintings. And of course, every culture, since that time has made masks of different forms and different types. In the hotter climates. You had masks that were made out of fabric in your colder climates, you had masks that were made out of wood or out of different substances. And each culture had different reasons for making those masks. You had religious reasons you had mass that were made as greetings to other cultures.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=157.0,204.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: The kind of mass I guess, that most of us are familiar with are the mass that is associated with Halloween. Yeah, you know about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=205.0,211.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Not so much Halloween. But of course here in the southwest, we have a lot of the cucina mass. And the they have drawn me to further explore more masks, the ones that I have seen here in the southwest, and mo howery, whom I took three huge boxes of pot shards that I had found in the read or wash is really the one who encouraged me to continue looking into archaeology or a logical digs, and exploring more about the Southwest.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=212.0,247.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay, let's take time for a second and meet some of these guys. What's the name of this painting?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=248.0,252.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay, this","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=253.0,252.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: atom Master, I guess, yes, the painting","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=253.0,255.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yeah, anatomy master. This particular painting and master is called modern rustlers. And most of my paintings I tried to take some of them are truly just for fun. Sure. Some of the things that I do are I'm just drawn to the colors and the beauty of the southwest and I want to portray those and put them on canvas. Some of them I try to address more serious problems. I feel that in modern wrestlers, of course, the first thing that comes to mind with rustlers is the cowboys and Indians and the rustling of cattle and the rustling of horses and those kinds of things. And this person ticular painting I'm addressing a different kind of rustler, a modern rustler. And again, this is a mask upon a mask. sunglasses are a modern means of disguising and hiding our true personalities or our true selves from other people. And in this particular painting, I'm addressing the fact that we rustle our environment, whether it would be the animals, or whether it would be other things, and I may be there I'm not going to have too many friends after I say this, but snowbirds in some ways become our rustlers ever environment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=256.0,341.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay, you're probably lost a few friends, but","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=342.0,345.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: they're not here. Correct.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=346.0,346.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: We need to break for just a second. And we'll be back in just a minute to talk more with Susan l. t. Brown and Arizona magazine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=347.0,362.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Hi, thanks for staying with us on Arizona alumni forum. We're talking right now with Susan l. t. Brown, a sculpture and an artist who lives in Yuma, Arizona, and an alumni of the University of Arizona from back in 79, and 80. And she's working on an art form called Ana masters, which is a combination word animal masks and sculptures. And we just met these guys and talked about them for a while. I want to ask you a little bit about yourself, Susan, as we get into this segment. First off, how do you go about making a living doing this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=363.0,391.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, very, very recently, I was working at the Tucson Airport Authority. So I did have a 40 hour a week job. Since I've moved to Yuma graciously, my husband has allowed me to go into my art work full time. So up until that point, I had","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=392.0,413.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: an artist full time. I mean, it's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=414.0,417.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: hard work, though it's not. Most people, I think think of artists as Sunday painters or people that just occasionally dabble in whatever their creative field might be. But I work at it as a business. I get up every morning when my husband goes off to work. And that's about six o'clock in the morning. And I have correspondence that I do. And I have a set pattern that I must accomplish every day. Whatever painting,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=418.0,446.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: are you giving yourself any kind of time limit to, quote, make it or not make it or whatever?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=447.0,452.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Oh, I hadn't really thought about that. I certainly hope I'll make it within six months. Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=453.0,458.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Good luck. Aside from the business aspect, where do you see your art going itself? What would you like to Oh, I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=459.0,463.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: would love to have it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=464.0,465.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: You mean as far as in the United States, as far as developing as an artist and growing from whatever you're doing now into the next stage, whatever that might be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=466.0,473.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I really don't know. I started off just doing actually the individual masks. And I notice what's happening is that my paintings on my artwork, my Anna masters are getting larger and larger and larger. So maybe I'm gonna have to build a castle to be able to our warehouse, somebody out there might have a warehouse that I I could possibly, if people want to see your work, can they see it? Right now I have the Met Old Town artisans. Bruce Wheeler in Council office number one is also going to have a couple of my paintings. And there is a gallery that will be opening in Yuma that I hope to display my work in as well. So anyone that is traveling towards San Diego, please stop in in Yuma and see my work there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=474.0,524.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Let's go back to some of your subjects I know you'd like to do such for the message. And there's a slide that we can bring up now called burden basket young America with a question mark on the end shows a guy in a motorcycle with all kinds of different things described as for us what's going on?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=525.0,541.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: There's a lot of things happening in this particular painting. Number one, I think I need to say one thing and that is that the Indians, various cultures carry different types of baskets to carry their different types of burdens around, they would carry firewood, they carried berries, they carried their children, they carried lots of different things. And on the back of this motorcycle, of course is a burden basket. Inside that burden basket is contained several different masks. And I feel that these mass typify possibly things that are need attention by our young people. One is self indulgence. One of them is time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=542.0,592.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: One of them is the drug situation. And one of them is illiteracy Your next theme that we're going to take a look at is called yuppie petroglyphs mixing your fascination with the past and the present again, yes,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=593.0,606.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I, in this particular painting, I am stressing that our epitaph should not be money. And unfortunately, that seems to be our bent today. Unfortunately, we all seem to be just money hungry. And that is a bother to me. And I hope that that's not what will be written in stone that our generation was just interested in money.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=607.0,632.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Good message for all of us. We're just about out of time. One more time, if you don't mind repeating the name of the place in Yuma where people can see your work if they're headed out to San Diego or something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=633.0,641.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay. At the present time, we don't have a name for the gallery, it will be near the Chamber of Commerce, so Okay. It should be readily.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=642.0,650.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay. And here in Tucson at Old Town artisans downtown by the museum.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=651.0,654.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Correct.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=655.0,655.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, thanks for taking time to come all the way to Tucson to talk to us and share some of your art with us. It was good having you with us. Please stay with us on Arizona alumni forum. In just a moment, we'll meet a lady who's explored the Arctic and written a book about it back in a minute.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=656.0,679.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Thanks for staying with us in Arizona alumni forum j Rocklin back with you. like to introduce you now to Jeannie Aspen. She's a 1978 University of Arizona graduate and came from an incredible family. They were explorers, and she became one herself before she was age three. Now she's also published a book called Arctic daughter, which we'll talk about in just a little bit. And it's just an amazing story that I want to share with you. And I think you'll enjoy it. Good to have you with us, Jamie, thanks for coming down.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=680.0,706.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Thanks. Good to be here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=707.0,707.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay. 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They're both you have a graduates Well,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=718.0,719.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: my my mother's you have a graduate. I'm not certain My father was but he went to the University where the names Connie helmerich. And bad homeworks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=720.0,726.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Great. Okay, so tell us about their lives just a little bit. Must have been incredible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=727.0,730.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yeah, it was it was at a time when no one else was doing this kind of thing. And they wrote together actually the wrote 12 books concerning the Arctic. 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Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=740.0,743.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: In Alaska, which is, it's surprising how many people still don't know that Alaska is a state and that Canada's a separate country. That's right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=744.0,752.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay, so they were explorers, then all of a sudden you got born and they kept exploring?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=753.0,756.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yeah. And they took me with them on lecture tours. In fact, they did, probably one of the first documentary films of Alaska, with me, and it's called Genie, genie of Alaska. And it was shown in Carnegie Hall in front of 7000 people and went on a lecture tour, which","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=757.0,772.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: was about 1953 50. Yeah, that's right. Then you went back again. And did a canoe explore at a time you can remember how old were you then","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=773.0,781.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I was 14, actually 14 and 15. We did it two summers, my mother and sister and I, my mother was about 50 years old. And and my sister was 12. 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Every relating?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=799.0,815.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Actually, I didn't get right back in I went up to visit with my father for almost Oh, about six months. And he's still lives in the Arctic. And we were on an island in the Arctic Ocean, about 183 miles from point Barrow. And so we were very isolated there too. And coming back to civilization is always a culture shock. It's a real shift in values. And in fact, I only went to two and a half years of high school and then I went to Australia with my mother also for a year and then when I came back, I just went to the University here. I didn't complete high school. 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Right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=854.0,858.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yeah. 1960 it","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=859.0,859.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: would be about then didn't finish then came back.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=860.0,862.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yeah, I went I went to three years here at the university and and I needed a break to go exploring again. So I was off for four years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=863.0,870.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: So exploring God in your blood,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=871.0,872.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: still is. I find myself now I'm doing the the American thing and I'm still thinking about going back.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=873.0,879.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: What was it about the Arctic that attracted your parents? There's obviously a zillion places to go explore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=880.0,888.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, there isn't in many ways. It's a place where a person can live off the land and not in order to live in an area where where people can live off of the animal life. That takes enough isolation. And","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=889.0,903.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: there really aren't that many places. It's it's obviously a beautiful place not you've brought some slides along to show us then I don't want to really ask you to narrate them. But let's, let's put some of those up just to get a feel for what the sub is click through some of them while we talk about it. 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But at the same time, it's gonna be difficult. It's not like, you know, go down to the circle care price club and pick up some steaks to cook that night.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=938.0,946.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yeah, well, in my book, I talk about the first year and it was very hard we we walk probably 300 miles pulling a canoe with 1100 pounds of supplies into the mountains. And once we got into the mountains when we had to build our cabin and kitchen a food to live off of, and yeah, we almost starve to death. 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And so you have to stand in ice cold water in the fall. The water was 34 degrees freezing water in butcher moves for about seven hours. And yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=981.0,998.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay, so please don't tell me moose meat tastes like chicken.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=999.0,1001.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Mostly it tastes like it is a venison. And if it's fat in the fall when they've been feeding all someone before they run, it's very good. Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1002.0,1010.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: So now's the scab, get back to the subject of your own exploration after you went back there as an adult, for how long? 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And, and I really wanted the adventure I think most young people won't say most, but an awful lot of young people need to test themselves against genuine","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1029.0,1047.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: obstacles. And that year, most young people were testing themselves and exploring LSD and marijuana and Vietnam and Vietnam. And you chose the Arctic a whole different way to go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1048.0,1058.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: And we know when we went into it, we figured we had about a 75% chance of survival. That was the odds we we had thought and I think they were probably accurate, is green as we were,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1059.0,1069.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: we need to take a break right now. And when we come back, we'll talk about your transition to an author and a little bit about your book. Back in a second on Arizona alumni forum. Please stay with us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1070.0,1092.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Hi, Jay Rocklin back again with you on Arizona alumni forum talking with Jeannie Aspen about her book, Arctic daughter. case, let's talk about writing. You went up there. And it would seem from the way you were talking about just the the adventure and the experience itself, it would be enough. But you obviously felt the need to write about it. 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So I had quite a bit of work from that. And I actually started the first draft of it, and I put it away for many years. I completed it in about 1978. And then I just set it aside, I tried getting it published and was unsuccessful, the first few tries and I went on to other things. And then when my mother was dying, I was in control of her affairs and she was currently trying to finish her ninth book. And I was talking with a publisher at that time and I said, by the way, would you like to see mine? How's the book doing? I think it's doing okay for us. For a small publisher book. It's not a large publisher, so they don't push it internationally. But it's selling well. Bakkies. Then in Alaska and the West Coast man here in Tucson.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1136.0,1184.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Can you mention you also do slideshows for groups? 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Oh, it's there. Yeah, under what? Under Aspen irons and oh, and why? Pages try the white pages. Okay, I asked them like the tree. Okay, Nate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1193.0,1204.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I wanted to, I guess take a look at some more slides right now to get more of a feel for wilderness and hear you talk a little bit more again about. Still, I'm fascinated about why the Arctic as opposed to South America, or as opposed to Antarctica, or whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1205.0,1220.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Um, I think for me, of course, it was partly my history. Even though I don't remember it as a child, it was like coming home to me to be there. And in addition, there's there are a lot of elements involved in the meal, it is the Americas, so I can legally be there. I can legally hunt there. They don't have terrible tropical diseases or ticks. Right. Mosquitoes I can handle there aren't any snakes. 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So now as opposed to explore your being a mother of a three year old, you're operating a business, you're paying a mortgage, or we're filling out forms in triplicate, etc. is exploring still in your blood?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1247.0,1258.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yeah, it is. And I live in unusual web two, we built our own place out in the desert mountains. And we're still building it. And yeah, it is, I'm sort of waiting for my three year old to get I say, say higher than the snow. 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Back to the Arctic,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1273.0,1276.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: we're hoping next summer, we'll go back into the same area and spend the summer in that area and and look over places to build another cabin, maybe and stay up there for a year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1277.0,1287.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: That's why I want to hear about the cabin that you'd be able to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1288.0,1290.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: They're still there. After How long? Was 1970? Was it 1972 that we built it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1291.0,1300.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I imagine you'd have you have some pretty strong feelings on the environment itself. What happened up with the Exxon Valdez and everything else? share some of your thoughts. 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Or we might as well go hand ourselves because we all live on this planet. And I think people are becoming more aware.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1351.0,1360.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: That's sort of sobering to hear you talk about that. Yeah, no. And we, before we leave this, I want to make sure that we share the name of your book again and tell people where they can get it. Is it in bookstores? 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I think there's three or four there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1373.0,1386.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: You also have another career going that we might as well talk about a little bit. That'd be interesting. As an artist, you do cut glass,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1387.0,1392.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: architectural stained leaded, beveled edge glass for projects for homes and businesses and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1393.0,1397.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: churches. Tell us about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1398.0,1399.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, we don't we do actually is when people say stained glass, you have, oftentimes a real set image of what that looks like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1400.0,1406.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: But I think of churches.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1407.0,1408.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yeah, or, or maybe street fairs, or whatever. And what we actually do is fine art in glass. And we do original artwork for people in glass and in some of the very beautiful places where people can Tucson Medical Center chapel we did that window. And and Catalina United Methodist Church we did St. Mark's church. We've done a number of places around sharing an Oakland keystore. white dove restaurant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1409.0,1436.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Can you share some advice for women who are thinking about going off exploring? Does it make sense and what? What would you tell them?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1437.0,1444.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I think what I would tell anyone man or woman is is to live your dreams. And when you look at life, we only have so much time on this planet, whether you're careful with it or not. You might as well, within reason, do the things that you want to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1445.0,1459.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: What about safety? How about Well, how about your hairdryer?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1460.0,1463.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Safety? But you know, this is a real question. What about safety? No matter how safely you play it you all everyone ultimately dies anyway. Sure. And I'm not saying take unreasonable risk, but I think it's important for people to live their dreams.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1464.0,1478.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Are there more books in your future?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1479.0,1479.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yeah, I'm, I'm at night. I'm trying to find hard to do two careers at once to find time to write careers you're already doing to the mommy","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1480.0,1486.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: in the artists. Yeah, right. Right. What kind of books you're looking at. Right now I'm","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1487.0,1491.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: getting my mother's letters together. You know, she was an interesting enough writer that people collected her letters way back from 1930. I've got letters going And after she died, I begin asking her friends for their letters. And so I'm trying to put those together for him to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1492.0,1506.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: be fast into sort of a biography through her own letters.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1507.0,1510.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: And I'm also working on a couple of different novels and some short stories and some articles. I've all the same general subject matter and different things, different things. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1511.0,1522.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, I want to thank you for taking time to join us and this is a fascinating story and good luck, both in raising your son and going exploring with him. And selling your book I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1523.0,1531.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: wanted to say by the way that I the person I work with now is my husband, Tom iron. So we work together, I do the designing and the patterning and the talking with the clients and etching. He does all the cutting beveling and building in the glass, we work together as a team. Good luck to both of you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431#t=1532.0,1544.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73605/file/159431/transcript/37800/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Thanks. And thank you for joining us today on Arizona alumni forum, Jay Rocklin saying, join us again next month. 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