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I'm sure it was in the 20s. And of course, my uncle, Carlos Avila. My family was Avila. My mom's family was Avila. And they, of course, they all come from looking for work, you know? And He came first, and then he brought grandma. I'm named after Grandma, Anna, and in school, in school, Anna didn't go so they named me Annie in school. So, but that's when the family came here and and there were nine brothers and sisters that my my grandma had, and my grandpa and I remember them saying that my grandpa had a silver mine in Sonora, somewhere in Sonora, and so he sort of stayed behind and would come, would come, once in a while. I remember them saying they lived by Tucson high that that's where they got bought a home, and that's where the family was when they came. So from then on, I'm sure they all were educated here, I said, all nine of them, and, and then my mom met my dad. I don't even remember where she said, but she was very young. She said, she always said she was very young when she met my dad, that he was, like, about four years older than her, and, and somehow the parents got her together. She says the parents are the ones that got her together with my dad. So So, like I said, there's seven of us that brothers and sisters. My I am the second to the eldest. My sister Gloria is is deceased, and she married a Leon I married a Lopez. Then there was my brother, Hector. He was a city councilman, Hector Morales. He was a city councilman here in Tucson and and very involved. He loved to be involved. So I got myself to be involved with him, because I liked, I liked the politics, so I got involved with, I have a brother, Jean, and a couple of sisters here, must Cecilia, and then a baby sister, Tony. So we're a big family and and from then, you know, went to school, went to elementary school. We lived about like stone, stone and speedway. Our home was right near the corner of stone and Speedway, so we were close to Ross Scrooge and Tucson high and Roosevelt was our elementary it doesn't exist anymore. The building is there, but the elementary school doesn't exist anymore, but, and then on to Tucson high and then later on, and I took some courses at the U of A. In fact, I was going to tell Alberto, because my car, oh, he's deceased. He was teaching here at the U of A and he's me get Miguel Mendez, I think his name was, and went to classes there with him, and and some other speech classes, and, and, and I worked for the employment office, which is the Arizona State Employment Office For until I retired age 62 you know, so well. I I, I like people. I enjoyed people. I had the my older sister Gloria, you know, and and I were the ones that always were almost like twins, because we're just a year apart. But I and I enjoyed people. When we went to, I always remember when we went to Roosevelt because we were we weren't supposed to speak Spanish, and in my home, we did, because my grandmother lived there with us for a while, and my great aunt lived there for a while. So we we spoke Spanish and out of the house, or when we're in school, we spoke English, you know, so, so, but they were very they would get very upset if they would hear us speaking Spanish on the playground or anywhere, you know, and Roosevelt, I think, is a TUSD school, so it was strange, you know, when you're growing up and you and then, of course, some people would say, oh my gosh, you're bilingual. You know, how great, you know. But, but then growing up with junior high, high school, Tucson high. Went to Tucson high graduated in 49 I was on on the councils. I always was in committees. I love to be involved in committees. So I'm remembering a picture of of our graduation class there on the on the on. Front yard of Tucson high, you know, and, and, and there was a quite a few of us. And let me tell you, a lot of them were Spanish speaking. They were, you know, Mexican American students, probably more than Anglo students we had, but graduated from Tucson high and went on to, I don't recall, I think I worked for a credit union in the beginning there, and then a friend of mine said, Do you want to come and work over here with me? I work for the Arizona state government, you know. So I got in there right away, you know. And, and I'll always remember that when I went in, there was a couple of people there that said, I don't know how you got in here to work here, because I've heard you're a troublemaker. I'll never forget that you were a troublemaker. And because my brother, Hector, was in politics, you know, and we were, I was involved with him. I loved the politics, and maybe that's what troublemaker was, you know, but, but he was very outspoken about that and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/144324/file/266746#t=7.0,377.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/144324/file/266746/transcript/77073/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: and in the meantime, I belong to many organizations. I it's just, I don't even remember exactly where I started, but I was very, very involved with the even with the I had a I had, I think I listed them, the organization that I had belonged to, you know, and, and, and, like I said, it was many meetings, and I loved it, because, you know, you could get involved in everything, and, and, and give your opinion, and, and there was not a lot of Latinos that were involved in things like that. So everybody used to say, how, why do you do that? Why do you go to meetings at night? You're always at meetings at night, you know? And, and, and I said, because I enjoy it. And I guess because my brother, as I said, he was a city, city councilman of Tucson, and then he got me, and at that time, I went through a divorce, and he's the one that that said, What are you doing at home? And I said, Oh, nothing. You know, the kids were already teenagers and and we lived in South Tucson, and he said, come to the meetings. And he said, and start taking the minutes, because he was on the city council, you know. And so that's how I got very involved in everything, you know, he got me out of the house and and I would take minutes of the meetings that he had. And at that time, I lot of people don't remember it, but we had a poverty program where a lot of people their income was low and and I worked at I went to work for at the time, they were called area councils. And there was, they were all over town. They were there was one north there was we, I was Pueblo Area Council, there was a Safford Area Council, there was a Rito Area Council, and this was part of the poverty program. And my my brother applied, and he headed the program here in Tucson, you know. So I worked at the Pueblo Area Council, which is on a whole near 12th and and it was very involved with with the boss, and I was the assistant to him, and in visiting, that was what I love to do, visiting many homes and families to see how they were, what they needed, and get them the assistance you know, that they would would need to survive. And I remember going to one home where she there was this short little lady, very attractive little lady, and she had like, 567, kids, and her husband had taken off with with somebody else and with a neighbor across the street. And and I got to meet her, and met her little child, and and I told her, I said, Let me, let me take Diana home with me. And, you know, she can, you can have less people to feed, you know, and and that, I made her my godchild. I raised her, you know, she's still here in Tucson, and works for medical clinic on the north side of town. But I just, you know, I just enjoyed I only had one daughter, so I figured I needed another daughter. I think that's why I brought Deana home. But did all did that, and a lot of work and and then retired from the employment office and, and. And then I was so bored, and I said, What? Why did I do that? You know, I retired before. The reason I retired early was because I had worked at the University of Arizona, at the Kuat station, and I worked there on a project. And I don't know if the name Maria would guide us is familiar with anybody, but she's the one that told me go work at KU 80, Annie, she said there's a program there you can, you can do, I'm sure. So it was just six months, and what I had to do was recruit people, Spanish speaking people, bringing them into KU 80, and they would get interviewed, and they would take their picture and and ask them questions and teach them some English. And I was supposed to bring in people that didn't speak English well. So as and I did, I brought many of the people there to K, U, A, T, so I worked there for for six months on a the program was swessel, s, w, C, E, L, southwestern, educational, something and, you know, and the fun of it was that I got to fly to Albuquerque every, every month. And because they Swiss was part of Albuquerque, and the main one was there, and the U of A here had picked it up. So I get to fly to Albuquerque and met the crew over there every month, and then come home. And then that was, that was a government program. So eventually it ended, of course, but my husband, the father of my children, had bought in the end, I was divorced, you know, and he is deceased, so, and he's a father of my five, four boys and one daughter I had. And yes, lived in South Tucson and and he had a little home there. So when I married, that's where we lived, and, and it, it was, you know, it just as far as I'm concerned. I never had a need for anything, you know, but it, but it was a poor part of town, this dear son that brought me today. He used to run out in the street all the time. And and South Third was a busy, busy street because they had built the racetrack, the dog race track, one block south of me, the Greyhound race track. And it was and people would zoom down the street there to get to the to go bed over there on the dogs that were racing. And it's just right there on 36th and South fourth. And so that was not good at that part. I didn't like, you know, and, and I worked so to get that street paid. The street wasn't even paved when I moved there, into South Tucson and, and, but I got to know a lot of the neighbors. And later on, when I worked for the poverty program, I knew, which was a lot of them that were poor families, you know, and and would come and help them with the poor families. And in fact, when I, I had a cousin that was in real estate. He's still alive, and he's about three, four years older than I, 9596 somewhere in there, and he was in real estate, and he said, I want told him I wanted to move and I and he said, I have a house in enchanted hills. He said, I can get it for you so you can afford it. So enchanted Hills is West 36 and mission. So I moved up. It was very nice up there and and, but the experience in South Tucson was, was good because it's a very small town, and it was a poor town. It I just say it was a poor town, maybe the people that had money, I don't know, but there was a there was a mayor and council, you know, there was mayor and and four or five members of council that I got to know them all, because I, I worked for them for a while and got to meet all of them, but that was my experience in south to still. I still go by there, still go by my little house there and and fact, when I sold it, I sold it to to a young man that I had met through the one of the programs. And I knew his family was very, very poor, and I told him, I said, tell your mom and dad to come and live in my house. I said, I'm going to move.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/144324/file/266746#t=378.0,865.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/144324/file/266746/transcript/77073/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: So they did, you know, they and I go by there. Let me tell you what my mother used to do. There was a lot of farms in Marana, cotton farms, and lot of workers that were there. They were, you know, and they worked on those farms picking cotton. And I don't know if there's cotton farms in Marana anymore, but my mom, she's always thought of something. She would make Boodles. She would make Boodles with meat or beans or whatever, and wrap them up. And in fact, I remember helping her some. And then she would drive, my sister Gloria would go with her drive to Marana and sell the Boodles to all the workers out in the field. They would go out in the field and sell the voodoos wrapped up, you know, in wax paper to to the workers that were there. And I thought, Oh, my God. How would my mother think of this? You know, and she loved to cook, because later on, she had restaurants. We had, she restaurants where she put my older sister and I to work for a while there, but, but that's what my mom did. She loved to cook, and she had restaurants and, and, and so that's she would do things that that would help bring in the income. Because she had already divorced my dad, you know, and, and, and we were, like I said. We were seven of us. I think the first one, the first one that I recall very well, because my sister and I were sort of like teenagers yet. And it was El Mariachi, and it was right on the corner of 29th and whether it's the freeway, now, where 29th hits the freeway, there was stockyards there at the time, and it was a lot of workers, because there was a people bringing in cattle and auctioning off and and 29th and the freeway was a very busy little corner, and She had that tiny little El Mariachi restaurant that's where my sister and I learned how to shred lettuce, because I always made big chunks, but you had to learn how to shred it very fine, you know. And and she put us to work dicing up tomatoes. And it was a very popular little restaurant next door. It was like a little L shaped building, small rooms, but it was L shaped building, and next door to us there was a bar. And the caviglias is an old family here in Tucson. The caviglias, he had the bar, and on the right hand side of us was my uncle, Carlos Avila, because he had, it was a little grocery store. So it was very family oriented. And then my mom rented the little house behind, behind the little L shaped building, and we live, lived there for a while, you know. So that was, that was our teenage years, and they were like fun to me. They were like fun, you know, got to know a lot of people. We had a lot of friends, and that just did. And I can't say that. I can't say that we went to a lot of movies. We didn't. Maybe we would.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/144324/file/266746#t=866.0,1051.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/144324/file/266746/transcript/77073/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: There was a time when we would go to the Saturday mornings, it was for children, but that was when we lived on North stone, near North stone,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/144324/file/266746#t=1052.0,1064.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/144324/file/266746/transcript/77073/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: and went to, you know, to the movies every Saturday morning. It was a Mickey Mouse Club or something. There was we went to the we would walk from from Speedway and stone down to downtown Congress, a whole bunch of us, the Jacobs family that lived across the street from us, the Cervantes girls that lived a block from us, the weedens that the whedons that lived I babysat the Whedon children. They were on the next corner from our house on on North ninth, and I babysat Billy, and which is so funny, because her dad was the head of the employment the employment office. So when I went to work for the employment office, he was still alive, and I told him, I said, First, I take care of your children. Now I'm working here with you, you know. And he was and the mother was, and I would babysit them all the time. But that's how, that's how I kept busy, and of course, babysitting they would pay you, you know, always have something you wanted to buy, but, but I don't know, where did I leave off? But we, we, you know, we just, we grew up, then we grew up by by court, North court, right there with six for the big power plant was and my mother had to work then, because she was divorced, and I worked at, I think I was already working At the employment officer. Maybe I wasn't there, but I worked for, like I said, I worked for the poverty program. I remember working for learners in the in the bookkeeping department for a couple of years. Learners. We had a learners right downtown, on stone and Congress. I remember working there, and I happened to marry into a ranching family, is what it was in but this, this was, I met him in high school, Michael's dad. And of course, I had, I had the I'm here. I'm four boys and four boys and one daughter. But they were, they were named. Neighbors when we lived on, on by the electric plant. But I met him in high school, and we graduated class of 49 from Tucson high and yes, and they had cattle. His dad was they were cowboys. He worked for the large families that that owned the ranches in Vail, which a couple of them probably are still owned by the same owners, but I think the rest of them are gone. And in fact, one of the families is the one that my mother in law worked for them also, and my father in law, where there were cowboys. And then, of course, my older son and Michael, my son, Mark and Michael, they were cowboys. They would round up the cattle. And of course, the husband, my husband had cattle also, you know, and they would, they would, I they when they had roundups, and they were for branding. And this is a ritual of every so often that the cattle, when the cattle grow up, they Doctor them up, and then they they brand them. And so all of these events that were outdoors, I took many pictures of photography was my hobby then, which it sort of died down, but I still do some. But, I mean, I have albums in my den there that my sister says when you're gone. I want all those albums, because I did a lot of photography for many, many, many years, and I have entered a lot of my photography and contests, and have, and have won, you know, awards for photography that I have done. But that's, that's what, what we did. And then I would, I would cook. I wasn't really much of a cook, but then when you had a cook for like, 10 cowboys and they were hungry, after rounding up cattle and and corralling the cattle and branding the cattle, and I would bring these big pots, big pots of beans, big pots of meat with chili or potatoes and tortillas. And I have pictures. I have a lot of pictures I used to take of the Cowboys. Then they and, oh, and now it skips me, the local magazine that we have here, the lifestyle, the Tucson lifestyle, I had given one of my photographs to a friend of mine that that is in Vail, that is very involved. And one day I I had given some photos to her, and one day I got a Tucson lifestyle somebody called me and said, there's one of your photographs are in the back of the Tucson lifestyle. And it was one of my roundup photos that I had taken when I had fed all the cowboys. And the big water tank is right behind them, and that's there in Vail and, and they're all squatting down because they're the wooden stove. I mean, they would coffee pot on the wood stove. There was and, and it, it came, it. That photograph came out in the back of the Arizona the lifestyle magazine just a few months ago, you know. So now I just get involved in everybody's business. It's just, it's just not like me to stay home and do nothing. I can't. I can think of the Mexican American unity Council at the time, you know, I was very, very involved with that one. And supposedly, I think I heard somebody say something right now, but something at the base of the mountain, or the something that they the city had given us a plot of land there to build a Mexican American Center. Like one they have in LA, because apparently, when we had these meetings Mexican American unity council that was called the we kept in contact with LA, and they told us they had a big center with their name on it, you know. And we asked the city if they could give us some land. I wasn't president, then I was later on. And they gave us a plot right there at the base of the a mountain. And the where the, oh, the gardens are, the mission gardens are, now, you know. And they gave us a big plot there. And as we got somebody to start surveying it for building, apparently, we were told that at one time it had been the dumping ground where the garbage men would dump all the garbage and then cover it up so that there was no way that we could build any. Thing on top of that, you know. So that went down, down the drain, you know, because we thought we were going to have a Mexican American unity council building, just like, like a museum, you know, like LA had. So that never came to fruition until Sosa Carrillo house. I got very involved with the Sosa Carrillo house because that's where we have now a lot of we had a lot of our members and our meetings, and it's a los Indian this they got involved in there, and another organization I belong. I've always belonged to organizations and and until the other day when Mr. McCusker, who was in charge of the Rio nuevo money, a big old chunk of money that the city got for Rio nuevo, he told us we had to evacuate the building, because they were going to restore it. And I, I really didn't believe that. I still don't. So we, we had to get out of there because Rio nuevo downtown, in downtown, has a lot of money and, and I don't know what else he's doing with it, but, but we've sort of closed up the building there, emptied it out and, and I may not be around when it's finished restored, But I said, I did say to my son, Michael, I said, He wants it for another reason. He wants it for another purpose. Fletcher McCusker, never, we never heard of him, but he, apparently, he lived here in Tucson, graduated from Tucson high and and he's in charge of that money now. But I just think he had different plans for it, but that was, that was, like I said, My son just emptied out the museum because it's going to be restored. We're having meetings, I think, at the at the community center across the street from there, you know, but, but, oh, I've been but I've been involved in many organizations, the League of Mexican American women. I was involved in that one for many, many years, you know. And they still exist, and I keep in touch with them. My brother was in charge of that. He He worked for the county at the time before he, before he became city council, and it was money. We got a lot of money from Washington. I used to take the minutes when, at first, it was not any money at first, but, but, and they started, it had like the headquarters, and, of course, my my brother and I can't offhand, remember the name of the other people that at the time I knew very well. But what they did was they","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/144324/file/266746#t=1065.0,1665.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/144324/file/266746/transcript/77073/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: opened they called them area councils, and there was one in South Park. There was one over there on Speedway near the freeway, and one on a whole, the one that I worked for was on a whole, we call it Puebla Area Council, and so the government gave them all money to help the people in the neighborhoods. And obviously those neighborhoods were picked because they were needing neighborhoods, you know. And what we did was the boss and I was his assistant. We would go visit homes and see if people what they needed and if they were okay, you know, and we, lot of times, we paid utility bills for them and maybe help them obtain I have. We had a credit union have to obtain loans to get automobiles or and because there was a which was nice that to have a credit union attached to it, you know, and help the people buy things that they could pay in payments, you know. And I don't think anybody may remember the poverty program now, you know, but it was a biggie thing then, you know. And I can't even remember the years of them, but I'm sort of old, and I'm getting a little a little spacey in my old age, but, but I've just maybe done too many things, huh? Well, that's like I said, my brother was the city council. And of course, they all knew what they wanted to do. They wanted they wanted to knock down that neighborhood that's right there, south of the community center. They really wanted to knock down all that. It's an old it's beautiful to me. It's beautiful. Sometimes I drive through there and there are these row houses that are all one building and a million little doors, and people have lived there forever, and mostly Latino families, you know. And so they wanted, they just really wanted to knock all of that down. Well, they only went as far as that street there where the fire department is, where the minuto is on Main you know. As far as they went. But they wanted, and they wanted to do more, because it was like from Congress down to that street, and I think it and actually, and my brother was very, very involved, because he, if I was outspoken, he was 10 times more outspoken than I, and he said, you just want to get rid of all the Mexicans that are living there in that area, and that's what you're doing. And so, in fact, I think when they built the community center, they usually have a big plaque there that tells you who, who was a city council when it was built. I think maybe I'm sure my brother's name was there, because he said, I don't want my name on there. He said, I don't want my name on there. Don't you put my name on there, because I don't approve of what you're doing, you know? So, so I think I took after him because many things that that we we feel are not right for the people, but, but our politicians, you know, think that this is what they want, you know. And of course, it's a beautiful community center, but they knocked down many homes there to build that community center. You know, the people were put down there by 22nd in a subdivision. I can't even think of the name of it now, but there was a subdivision there for people with low income. They had there. And like I said, since I'd worked for many organizations, when I would visit families, going into the home and sit down with the families and visit them, I was aware of all of these things, you know, and but that was, that was another, another, not nice thing that happened to the barrios. Oh, I don't know. I'm very outspoken. I more times I think I should keep my mouth shut than I I'm like my brother Hector would. But being born here, you know, and being born here, you see a lot of things that that are happening. In fact, as soon as I leave here, I'm going to call Raul Grijalva about something that some of the people were speaking about out there, about something else that is going to not benefit the Latino community, you know. And and and luckily that I kept in touch with him, my granddaughter, when she graduated from the U of A she went to Washington to be like an aide for Raul Grijalva. So I feel I have more of a connection. But there, there still are many things that are happening here that are that are not helping the Latinos, and especially the ones that that can't that don't speak up, or can't afford to speak up, you know, to about things that are happening in their Barrios that are not positive. I know that in the few years that Regina has been mayor, believe me, she is. They've done a lot of nice things down there on the South side of town, you know, South 12th and up there towards Valencia, and to upgrade the streets and the and the and the they've got streets paved streets and curbs and everything, but, but somebody, somebody has to fight for those things. They just don't happen. You know, it just, and Raul. Raul does do a good job, but sometimes you have to, you have to put him in touch with it, because maybe there's too many things happening and and, like I say, I've always, I have no qualms about picking up the phone and calling him and telling me, hey, this and this and this. You know, you hear and I say, the city council, the city council, the the Latinos. I I think I pay more attention to the Latinos when I'm if I'm listening to board of supervisors or city council or our state representatives, and I pay more attention because we are the minority, you know, and and we are, as I say, a minority, and not every we're Not How did my brother used to call us the he had a name for us, the silent, the that we were. We were there, but we were too silent. The Latinos were too silent. And he had the, oh, I wish I could remember. He had a phrase that he had about us and us Latinos not speaking up when things would happen in our neighborhoods or to us, and, and, and, of course, he loved to speak up for them, you know. And the silent majority is what he called it, the silent majority. And, and I remember. It became pretty well known phrase way back then, because I used to see posters that would say the silent majority, you know, but and it, and it is, there's a, there's, I know, there's. And then I see, see the state reps that speak up, but I say to myself, they're not speaking up for the Latinos, you know, for the for the that I this the silent majority, you know, and they're very self centered a lot of our politicians. I hate to say that, but they're not thinking of the do what they're doing for the for the public. And I guess it's because I keep myself involved in the in the politics and and speak up. And I do, and I do call Raul whenever I call somebody else, some Councilman or some board of supervisors, when I feel things are not going right. You know, I guess that people have learned to speak up more people than before. They're not as silent as they were before. There are organizations that we have to to have to have people get more involved. I think I need some water to get more involved, that that people should get more involved. And they do, and they Oh, thank you. Thank you. I had one somewhere. I think","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/144324/file/266746#t=1666.0,2191.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/144324/file/266746/transcript/77073/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: even our league of Mexican American women and our organizations for the women that we have them learn to get involved, and that's the only way that things will progress if they get involved. And most, you know, most families are they're very older families satisfied to stay home and raise kids. Hopefully, these children that are growing up and getting into the schools, and I do hear and I see that they're more and more involved and more outspoken, you know about, about the public and the and the things and the politics and that that are around to make them better, to get better education. You know? I Right? But as you can see, maybe we could have more bilinguals city council or board of supervisors and and I the politics is important. A lot of people, oh, they hate the word politics, but the word is important, because if you're not up there helping do something, nothing gets done, you know, and the grassroots people, many of them, and I'm, I'm going to say they're afraid, but they're not outspoken or speak up about things that they need, you know, like, like, when, like, our mayor that, you know, she knows she comes from Barrios where the people are poor, so did Raul, so that our people can, can better themselves, you know, and get an education and and continue, continue on with education. And I think it's important you got, you've got to help, you know, you got to help the people. Sometimes you got to help them think, you know, because they're so involved in their little families and trying to raise their little families that they can't think beyond, beyond home, you know, and raising kids, but hopefully the offspring, you know, they're getting smart, and more of them should go to the U of A I just wish more of them. I had wished I had, could have afforded the University of Arizona. But I did go when I was working for the employment office. Somehow, rather, we got money. And I went two years, at least two, two years I would and, and, and it helps. You know, it helps because you get involved and you learn more about people, and you help people more, and, and, but that's my thing. You know that I like to be involved and help and help where I can, oh, and there's so many people that say, Oh no, I don't want to get involved. Oh no, it's too much trouble. You have to and if not for yourself, for your children, you know, for your grandchildren. So that, so that every generation, to me that should get more involved and more involved, you know, and I don't know why, city council, Board of Supervisors, senators or legislators, you know, it everybody. You hear them say, Oh no, that's politics. We don't want to get involved. Politics? Well, if you don't, you never do anything, you know, it's just it. You have to get involved. And that's the word politics is a bad word for a lot of people, you know. But I guess through my brother, I learned it really wasn't, you know, but, but I am, I think that most of my children, if they had to, they would speak up when they had to, and and get involved. And, you know when they when they wanted to, he's a second from the eldest. And then there's, like the I have the other three more, you know, and, and, and hopefully, you know, that that, that they do, but it just sometimes, sometimes I, I get very upset when, when people just don't speak up, you know, and when they should. I interviewed many years ago, a lot of people down there by St Mary's Hospital. I would go around to the homes and interview people, residents there and all their opinions for the Arizona history museum I was in. It was the Arizona Historical Society. And I think I have told a few people that those were many interviews, that I would go to the homes and interview these people, and all the tapes and cassettes that they're there. All they're there. But when can they be used? When can people hear these people, which many of them are gone already, you know. And these were from all different works of life. You know, different musicians and and you know, teachers, educators, doctors, even you know medical field, I just it, just it just says it has To be put out so that people will know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/144324/file/266746#t=2192.0,2510.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/144324/file/266746/transcript/77073/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: You","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/144324/file/266746#t=2511.0,2513.0"}]},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/144324/file/266746/transcript/77073","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3195/collection_resources/144324/file/266746/transcript/77073/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/077/073/original/azu_ms839-005_a.vtt?1741633143","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/077/073/original/azu_ms839-005_a.vtt?1741633143"}]}]}]}