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I'm Jay Rocklin. My guest today is the University of Arizona Vice President for undergraduate affairs and he's also acting as provost for the moment the University of Arizona. Dr. Setsuna. Fernanda is good to have you with us. Thanks for taking time to join us. I important topic tonight that's been on a lot of people's minds for a long, long time to think about higher education, especially here in Arizona, the idea of, or the whole debate about teaching versus research. And I know folks in academia say that that's a bogus argument. But people talk about it anyway. For the folks that aren't really into the pros and cons of all that now it goes, lay out the argument for us, and why are people talking about it in those terms?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=60.0,98.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, the popular belief, perhaps is that faculty are so engaged in their research, that they're not interested in undergraduate education, or that if you're engaged in undergraduate education, you're not engaged in an active research program.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=99.0,119.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay, so So here in Arizona, just from what I can tell from what I hear and read, this doesn't seem to be an issue at like Northern Arizona University, for example, what's a big, big issue at the University of Arizona? Why is that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=120.0,131.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, because institutions of higher education have different missions. And well, the three state universities are under one board. All three universities have very different missions. The University of Arizona has a mission that includes research as part of our mission, and includes undergraduate education and includes graduate education. It's a land grant university, different from ASU and NIU, we have the only college of medicine, the only College of Agriculture, and certainly central to our mission is also undergraduate education.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=132.0,170.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay, let's talk about the research component just for a moment. And I understand research is a fairly big deal to you. How big a deal is it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=171.0,177.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: It's a big deal. It's an important activity","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=178.0,180.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: will look nationally. So do we fit in?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=181.0,183.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: We are ranked in terms of research activity, and Mung that top 20 universities in the United States, that includes all privates and publics, if we're looking just that public universities were in the top 15. There are over 3500 colleges and universities in this country. The University of Arizona ranks","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=184.0,207.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: very highly not very high just just to give people a feel for just just what you're talking about. What are some other universities that ranked right around us? The people might have heard of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=208.0,215.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: UCLA, Cal Berkeley, Wisconsin, Michigan, Washington, Illinois.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=216.0,224.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay. Well, it would seem on the surface, that being among those elite schools would be work to the benefit of everybody that's involved in the school, but but at the same time, we hear we hear complaints about undergraduate education.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=225.0,237.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, we believe that, in fact, a University of the quality, the University of Arizona does work to the benefit of the entire population of the state, as well as the country and in many respects to the world. At the same time, Jay, it is fair to say that there are some unresolved issues in undergraduate education, and for the University of Arizona to reach the next level of quality. We really need to address those issues in undergraduate education","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=238.0,268.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: can just about a year and a half. Now we got a new president a year and a half ago, you're in two months ago, Manuel Pacheco, when he came up came on board he, I guess for since this election season was going about calling himself the undergraduate president. Seriously, he laid out undergraduate education as quality as one of his major themes. And as an OG in his inauguration speech in many of his public statements and says, instead, we have to fix it. Let's talk about first what needed to be fixed. And then second, we'll get into what you're doing to get into actually fixing it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=269.0,299.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Sure, and let me just mention that he has not abandoned that theme. During the time that that President by cheque was been here. He has made undergraduate education one of the primary topics on his agenda. Very recently, he addressed the university community through his State of the University address. And in that presentation, he spoke frequently about undergraduate education. So he has not abandon that. 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Well,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=329.0,338.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: there are a number of problems, course availability, class size, and a number of faculty that are involved in undergraduate education, particularly at the lower division level, academic advising, from the perspective say even the involvement of students in their own education. There was a problem there. There are there are others. But I think that some in the curriculum and the content and structure of the curriculum,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=339.0,368.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Dr. Pacheco decided to take the bull by the horns, the horns and do something about it. What kind of mechanisms do you set up to start assessing the problem and coming up with solutions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=369.0,377.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, there is soon upon his arrival. In fact, in September 1991, he appointed a basically, Blue Ribbon committee, we could say it was a task force, an undergraduate education, he charged that task force with developing a report that will include one a statement of philosophy of Undergraduate Education at the University of Arizona, that is a statement that would deal with undergraduate education in the context of a mission. That includes graduate education that includes research that includes public service, outreach, and so forth. So it would be something appropriate recommendations appropriately University of Arizona.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=378.0,427.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: we're about out of time for this segment. I'd like to come back to that that thought and talk specifically about the report. Just a moment when we come back and hope you stay with us. We'll be right back on Arizona alumni forum.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=428.0,531.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Thanks for staying with us, J. Rock on here with you on the editor of the University of Arizona's alumni magazine, visiting today with Vice President Sela Steena Fernandes at the University of Arizona in charge of undergraduate education. We're talking about undergraduate graduate education and a brand new report you just came out with called report of the President's Task Force and undergraduate education for people that just joined us tell us about real quick again, why this commission was formed and what had hoped what's charged was what hope to accomplish.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=532.0,559.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yes, the president by check upon his arrival last year, in September appointed a task force to develop recommendations to improve undergraduate education that in essence was the charge.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=560.0,575.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Let's get into some of the items that you cover in problem areas and also solutions the idea of faculty culture the idea of the as we look at from the outside we see a faculty culture that values research values, publications, values, big money research grants, not necessarily teaching freshmen and sophomores beginning sociology or English Talk about faculty culture and what you found in the taskforce report. And what you're recommending,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=576.0,604.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: well, the faculty culture is associated to another culture that we discussed in the report as well. And that is the institution of culture. And basically, in the area of faculty culture, the report, the report speaks a great deal to the need for the professoriate to read that rededicate ourselves because I include myself as part of the faculty of the University of Arizona to rededicate ourselves to education and principally to undergraduate education, including lower division instruction. What we have at the university in some areas, like other large institutions, is that we relied too heavily. And in some departments, and in some programs, on teaching assistants to conduct the lower division instruction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=605.0,658.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Kim changing culture is a pretty tall order, especially if you're not prepared to change the reward structure that exists in that culture. Did you address that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=659.0,670.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Indeed, and that's what I was thinking about when I mentioned this to the institution of culture. Faculty are like other people, and that is we respond to the reward system, their reward system at the University of Arizona for many years, has tended to favor the research activity of our work. What we have recommended in this report is that there be greater balance, and that the teaching aspect of our daily activity be evaluated rigorously and be included in the annual performance evaluations and the reviews for promotion and tenure, and that it be rewarded with merit pay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=671.0,721.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: How about with actual salary increases and possible tenure, because a problem that me that I see that I hear criticized from from several points of view, including those of gender and minority concerns, is that real real often an administrator will bring in a female at some entry level position, or Hispanic or black male or female. Those people have maybe a dual or triple charge, not only are they trying to get tenure, and we all know the way they get tenure is by publishing lots of articles and jury things which takes an inordinate amount of time. They're assigned teaching duties, but just because they're folks, they end up advising students spending a lot of time doing hands on one on one work, which was students, which takes away from their research activities, which is again held held against them, when it comes time for tenure. Later, can you address that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=722.0,776.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well as salary increases are critical to the reward system. And unfortunately, the state legislature for the last several years has not been forthcoming with resources to make salary adjustments, appropriate salary adjustments, either for staff, which are also underpaid, and for faculty. The report does address this. And we believe that in order for the culture to change in order for the faculty to be committed to a first rate undergraduate program, that there has to be salary, salaries and merit increases commensurate with the level of performance that faculty are are delivering,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=777.0,822.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: how about tenure, the award of tenure,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=823.0,825.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: that the award of tenure and promotion is also addressed in here. And we strongly believe that in all evaluations, and particularly in the promotion and tenure evaluations, that the teaching and be rigorously again, evaluated and included in the dossiers that are reviewed at every level.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=826.0,850.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay, tougher question now is one thing to come out with a with a report that suggests these things, but it's yet another thing to actually get it done. Do you Can you think of any examples where this kind of transformation is taking place at a school like ours? And do you think it's it's possible to happen here at the University of Arizona?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=851.0,868.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Let me answer the second question. First. Indeed, it is possible and I believe that we will do it has it occurred at other institutions? I let me just say that the University of Arizona is a member of a an organization called the Alliance for undergraduate education 16 large public universities, basically our peers, UCLA, Berkley, Michigan, Wisconsin and so forth. in that organization, we discuss the issues regarding undergraduate education. I can sure that our peers are dealing with the same kinds of problems that we are. I think that we, at the University of Arizona, indeed can implement the recommendations. The President has already indicated that one, he agrees with the principles contained in the report, and he has asked me to provide the direct leadership in beginning the implementation of this report. Excellent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=869.0,927.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Need to break one more time. Be right back again on Arizona alumni forum, hope you stick around.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=928.0,1023.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: listening for and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=1024.0,1024.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: watching. Listening to Arizona alumni forum brought to you by the 145,000 members of the U of A's Alumni Association, this station, Jay Rocklin back here with cells, Dino Fernandez, Vice President of the University of Arizona, back to report back to talking about issues in undergraduate education. How quickly do you think people that are actually in school, have children in school will be able to stop hearing stories about kids having to sit on the floor kids not getting classes that are required for graduation, kids not being able to understand their graduate teaching assistants? Are we going to see real life changes like that soon?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=1025.0,1063.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, we're in the seeing them now. Last year, and this fall, certainly, we were able to provide basically all the new students the courses that they needed for their programs, particularly in general education. We are looking at other measures, for example, President Pacheco has spoken widely on the need to cap enrollment, capping enrollment, and will allow us to be able to predict what size our new class is going to be each year, so that we can deliver and provide the courses that are necessary. There are many, many other things that need to be done. However, Julian, and those some of them will, we can do right away, and others will require some time, you know, to change a culture, will it this the culture that we're in now, then come about in one year, and it's not good, we're not going to be able to change it in one year. But we will make very strong and strides this year,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=1064.0,1124.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: you described how the committee saw the culture of the faculty. How about the culture of the students?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=1125.0,1131.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, the culture of the students is one and it's very varied. And that is we have, in recent years attracted some of the best students in Arizona, some of the best students in the country. And for that matter, we have some very good students from throughout the world. At the same time, we have students that enter the university with academic deficiencies, particularly in mathematics and science. And it's also students that are very serious about their studies, and others that are less so. And that provides a tremendous challenge for the institution to be able to address that variation in terms of preparation, talent, motivation. So for","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=1132.0,1176.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: me, that's something that people probably want to be aware of to them. Maybe you can expound on how well we compare ourselves favorably with Michigan, Wisconsin, Berkeley, and some of the privates. There's a whole different student body that we're catering to maybe you could, I'm sure, you know, the differential requirements to get into Berkeley versus the UVA for example. You talk about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=1177.0,1198.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, first Sample at UC Berkeley, they basically admitted only the top 12 or so percent of the student body in California in terms of, you know, qualifications based on test scores and grades and so forth. We have not an open admissions policy, but something closer to that than say two to the Berklee model. Michigan also has hired Mrs. standards, and most of our peers do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=1199.0,1228.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: stuff to serve everybody as an, excuse me stuff to serve everybody,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=1229.0,1231.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: it is very difficult, then, you know, we frequently speak about graduation rates. Well, graduation rates, to some extent, are directly affected by the preparation of the students as they enter the university. And then the other component of the student culture that we spoke about in the report has to do with the engagement, the level of engagement, the intensity of engagement, with which students approach their studies, in order for a higher education is not as an environment in which students are spoon fed, in order for education to work. And really on almost any level, the student has to be engaged in that education.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=1232.0,1277.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Talking about students to that reminded me of an early quote, I heard of Dr. Pacheco, he was asked about excellence. And so he said, with respect to students, you might be thinking too much about the accidents comparing ourselves to Michigan's again or Berkeley's that if you have excellent students coming in, you got excellent students coming out. Anyone can do that. He talked about what he called a value added. Can you explain what you're thinking might have been about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=1278.0,1303.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, universities have always been places where value is added to the life of the individual. whether an individual is studying to chemistry or sociology or dance, it's an opportunity higher education is a place where there's a broadening and expansion of the sell of the the knowledge and and really also, I think that's critical to this notion of value added is we live in an ever increasingly rapidly changing world. And it's not enough to perhaps teach individuals about the current knowledge in a field, but really, how to continue to be a lifelong learner. And if we do that, well, we have accomplished a good deal of our mission.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=1304.0,1365.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Can we've talked about faculty culture, student culture, what you left out the report I noticed that surprised me was any specifically reference to administrative culture. And looking at it over a 10 year horizon, there is a separate administrative culture. Faculty even talk about that, and they criticize the school for the as compared to others where the administration faculty seem to be more meshed. Well, is there a change going on? Dr. Pacheco seems as though we didn't address necessarily","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=1366.0,1396.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: minutes administrative culture you talk about it's always a good deal about institutional culture. And there, I think is where administrators have a critical role to play. It's interesting that you mentioned that because I have appointed a implementation Oversight Committee. And at one of our first meetings, we were discussing one of the recommendations, and we mentioned that it is we should have perhaps addressed some issue regarding administrative culture, some recommendations specific to administrators.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=1397.0,1433.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I just think we need to break one more time. We'll come back in a moment I'll ask you what you're going to do and how you're going to do it. So stick around","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=1434.0,1533.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Welcome back to Arizona alumni forum. Let's get right back to our discussion with Vice President sales. Dina Fernandes of the University of Arizona, back to an undergraduate undergraduate education and the Task Force on undergraduate education report. Let's get specific for a little bit, what kind of recommendations are actually going to come out of this that we're going to see specifically on their","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=1534.0,1553.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: proximately 65 or so recommendations in the report. And there are probably five very critical ones. That having to do, for example, with the role and the involvement of faculty and law division, or undergraduate instruction in general, and specifically lower division courses. And then also recommendations around the evaluation and reward system. And a third one would be the curriculum. In any case, our intention is to move on all of the recommendations, some of them, there are maybe a few that we will never implement. But our intention is to try to implement as many as possible. And as quickly as possible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=1554.0,1597.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Why is it your sense that that the time is right now for getting this kind of thing done?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=1598.0,1602.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Oh, the time is right, for a number of reasons. One is faculty, the faculty of the University of Arizona is ready. It's not simply students complaining about the quality of the undergraduate experience. And I think that the administration, the faculty, the students, the community, that the the public in general, I think we've all focused on on undergraduate education as an area that needs our attention. And we're ready to give it that attention that it needs. Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=1603.0,1635.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: This is obviously the kind of thing that can't get done by administrative fee. Who needs to pitch in to get the thing done,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=1636.0,1643.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: in order for this to work in order for us to elevate the quality of Undergraduate Education at the University of Arizona, everyone has to be involved. And that means the entire university community, faculty, staff, students, professionals, all administrators, and the external community that is the larger community as a whole, it means the Board of Regents has to be involved at the state legislators have to be involved at the general public, for example, the parents Association has recently contributed $50,000, toward the implementation of this report, they're behind us they want to provide some leadership in this area. They also wanted to send a message to the state legislature that they are behind this and that they believe that additional resources are needed in higher education.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=1644.0,1698.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: $50,000 commitment is spectacular, obviously, in the commitment of appearances, great. Report cost a lot of time and a lot of Xerox paper. But realistically, we're being told by legislators constantly that it's not going to get better fiscally next year is probably going to get worse. How much of this report? Is daydreaming without more money? Or can you actually see some real positive changes without additional money, maybe even with less money? Well,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=1699.0,1727.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: we can do a great deal. In fact, most of the recommendations contained in the report are not resource dependent. Changing the reward system, the evaluation system, getting more faculty and lower division courses, doesn't unnecessarily cost any more. There are some recommendations that really are resource dependent. How is it that we are supposed to raise the the salaries of the staff at the university and the faculty, other employees? How is it that we can provide merit increases that reflect a reward system that takes into account undergraduate education without the state providing those resources?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=1728.0,1769.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay, just about half time, I want to give the opportunity for one last question and dig about the elections coming up in just about exactly a month. How important is it for all three universities to see pro University legislators elected?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=1770.0,1781.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, now we're not necessarily looking at pro University. I think that it's more important to have pro education legislators, individuals that are concerned about education, pre K, through post graduate and continuing education.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=1782.0,1796.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay. Well, thanks for excellent interview. You lots of good information. Good luck in the implementation of the report of the President's Task Force on undergraduate education.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=1797.0,1804.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Thank you, Jay. It's always a pleasure to be on the probe. Thanks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=1805.0,1806.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Have you back soon. This has been Arizona alumni forum, brought to you by the University of Arizona's Alumni Association. I'm Jay Rocklin editor of the U of A's alumni magazine. I hope you join us again in about two weeks on this station.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995#t=1807.0,1809.0"}]},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73628/file/159995/transcript/37905/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/037/905/original/azu_ms646-066_a.vtt?1653330277","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/037/905/original/azu_ms646-066_a.vtt?1653330277"}]}]}]}