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Professor aide chanin, who is a veteran of a half century of Arizona and journalism will be your guide. You will visit with some of the state's most important personalities and your neighbors who are eyewitnesses to history. Today's guest is del uric Tucson golf Pro.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=49.0,144.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Welcome to eyewitness to history. Today we have a figure very familiar to anyone who ever played the game of golf in Tucson. A historic figure in the sport of golf in Tucson. Del uric has been with golf here for more than a half century if I remember correctly came Tucson in 1930. And you were the pro at the Tucson Golf and Country Club. Tell us where it was located Dell at that time and whether you have to keep a chunk of that land for investment purposes to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=145.0,176.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: them. I wouldn't have been great. It was situated in Broadway in Country Club Road on the south west side in the corner. Unifor Broadmoor is now that used to be that subdivision that number one green is where the the bank building is now around the corner. So Country Club and Broadway. And the clubhouse finally turned into the shrine Club,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=177.0,202.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: which is just down the block from Cantwell","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=203.0,205.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: it no it Yes, it was about halfway in between Tucson Boulevard and Country Club then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=206.0,213.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: And then what was the course like in those days? Tell us a little bit about that golf course","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=214.0,217.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: down at the Tucson Country Club. It was a Tucson Golf and Country Club. You see they had kind of a I think 100 year copyright on that name, I guess you'd call it a copyright. See, that's the reason that the President to some country club is the Tucson Country Club instead of Tucson Golf and Country Club. And the course was just dragged out of the mesquite and cactus and dirt fairways and oil, sand greens, and fairways are just hard. This floor wasn't long drives we'd get it was fun hitting them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=218.0,257.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: That was I remembered that we'll get a little problem out there with the denizens of the desert","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=258.0,264.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: over the rattlesnakes. That was mostly up to the after I took over Randolph Mr. Urich and I took that over in 1933. And we we took it over in May 1933. And that that summer we killed about 17 rattlesnakes right around the clubhouse. And then the following summer about 18 rattlesnakes","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=265.0,285.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: they ever become become a problem for golfers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=286.0,289.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Not exactly because we had a sign up there be words rattlesnakes, reptiles. Did you remember Rasmussen up? For dress, surely he and his old cronies had a sign put up there on one of the cactus patches. You'd be wearing the reptiles clothes get everybody off the golf","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=290.0,310.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: course You almost lost your your business, didn't you? Because","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=311.0,312.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: of the just that one sign","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=313.0,316.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: board was rather cut up. He was a pitcher at the University of Arizona","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=317.0,319.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: and then softball pitcher also. Right. Right. Dale,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=320.0,323.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: you always had a great sense of humor. And I want to talk about that a little bit. I think that's what made golf so much fun people being around you at that time because of your sense of humor. And I might say to in the way you dress colorfully, you're always known for your colorful attire. And","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=324.0,338.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I came down here a black.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=339.0,340.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: But I want to ask you about when you were pro with Randolph municipal course, you had the habit of when the telephone rang, you would answer hay fever acres. What was the idea that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=341.0,351.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: well, can you imagine being in right in the middle of about 160 acres of Bermuda grass and having to come to pollinate and have your nose runny and your eyes hurting your throat sore? Well, I couldn't help him answering. Oh, good morning hay fever acres or good afternoon hay fever acres. And another one talking about that one of the prize when I think we had a terrific rainstorm and just wanders, cloudburst. And I happen to be looking at kind of a doorway in the window. And number one fairway wood just flooded. And right then the phone rang. So I wouldn't have mattered. Good afternoon, Randolph lake fishing license books are available. And they said Oh, pardon me that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=352.0,399.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: was typical Dale, you are. You always like to talk about golfers who are temperamental and amateur golfers can be as temperamental or more so than pros. And you like tell stories about golfers who like to throw their clubs and maybe inflict some injuries?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=400.0,417.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, I had, I remember three occasions. And that one was a Private First Class soldiers came in and at first, first day there, that he took all of his stuff out of his bag and everything and he went off to play. And he sank his shot on one of the holes, or about a three or something. And he threw his club way up in the air. And he's over there. The body says sank the shot up maybe 50 yards out or so and came up and hit him on the head when we had to give up came down and hit him Yeah, right with the club head and put a gash in his forehead. And we had to take him in and put a bandage on it and then call a doctor to get us sewed up. That was one of another one that was very unfortunate, on that plane over Del Rio. And one of the fellows missed a short putt and he got real mad and he took his putter and broke over his knee. And he didn't think about the steel shaft you know with the the edges of it. And he threw it and he ripped his hand and he had 28 stitches put in. And that was kind of a tragic thing. Because it stopped the game stop him from playing golf for about six months or so. And","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=418.0,488.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: now what would you advise if you're temperamental? Don't play golf? Well,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=489.0,492.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: if you're temperamental and you want to throw a club or throw it level one break break it over your knee.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=493.0,500.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Bill Matthews who is editor and publisher the star for a long time like to play golf but he was very temperamental homeboy and I remember there was a To Do When he got mad at a missed shot off the green and threw his club and wrapped it around his caddies neck","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=501.0,515.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yeah, I heard I heard about that. I'm very unfortunate I didn't see that. Cuz that'd have been a good story for us. But I remember","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=516.0,523.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: one of its hold just to meet with your next story. We'll take a break right now we'll be right back with the storytelling of del uric. I love your stories you have another good one to tell us about caddies and throwing clubs and so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=524.0,575.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yeah, this Oradell re on our plane enforcing that. You remember the lake hole goes cross number six. Absolutely. And I was playing with a farmers this and we had quite a game going and he knocked ball after ball into the little lake and it was just a simple carry over the lake. But when a person sees that water there he gets kind of frozen. Well, my friend knocked about oh, I'd say eight or 10. And finally, he, he took, he threw one club in and grabbed another club and through that, and then he grabbed the whole bag and throw it in the lake. And we didn't dare say a word because he was so mad. But the cat he started laughing. So he pushed the cat into the lake. That was that was one of the great thing. You probably I don't want to bring up any names because he might still be living at home or Boyd","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=576.0,631.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: J Homer was a pharmacist and the great Councilman are really a great friend to Yes, he","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=632.0,636.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: was. The funniest one","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=637.0,638.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: was he was he punished by not being able to play for a while and of course,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=639.0,642.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: no nominees just that's what it was just that one thing he bought, he didn't pay the caddies nothing. Because the caddy stayed there and picked all of the guys and all of his clubs on Lake.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=643.0,655.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I wanted to ask you to you had a favorite story about your kitten stymie in the 18th.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=656.0,661.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Oh, that was the funniest thing. I had to get out of rule book on this one, the 18th green that was coming towards the clubhouse with our little kitty cat would stay out there and play in the sand crabs and run up on the green. And then when a person would hit hit the ball up on the green. Well, I'll be darned if our little cat didn't go up there and move the ball until he knocked into the cup he had played with a ball and knocked in the cup. Well, that happened quite a bit, quite a few times. And finally, one of the fellas while I hold out on my last shot, well, I had to get a rule book and show him that was outside agency that interfered with the ball","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=662.0,700.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: dealt. We had a lot of funny stories, but you were really an outstanding golfer and a brilliant teacher and golf going even back to your days in San Diego. Thank you. What I wanted to ask you was, was there a time as a young golfer that you considered becoming a touring golf professional or at","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=701.0,716.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: a blessing every golfers mind that you wanted to be the world's greatest? And sure in my mind, and I'd practice I'd practice from six to eight hours a days when when business didn't interfere? And oh, Mr. Regan, Bob said because she had to take care of the shop when I did all that practicing. Well, I got quite efficient with knowing where the ball is going to go that about 90% of the time. And through all that effort, are very fortunate to win the Arizona open from 1937 1940. You're dominated the scene with just about Yes. Oh, matter of fact. Yes, I did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=717.0,758.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: But why didn't you really go on the circuit? Well,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=759.0,762.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I didn't have enough money for the start the first place. And the second after I got to thinking about it. There wasn't enough money in it. Because the prize tournament today where there are no because like just like on the last 1941 no one there is an open. I got received $200. And that was my maximum of all the terms I played in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=763.0,787.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: There wouldn't even be a prize for the 36 place finisher today with oh gosh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=788.0,791.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Matter of fact, it was I wouldn't even pay for the gasoline to get from here to Los Angeles to San Diego.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=792.0,799.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: But you played regional tournaments instead? Oh, yeah, that was your answer was not through","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=800.0,803.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: San Diego and Southern California and here in Arizona.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=804.0,810.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: At that time that you were thinking about playing pro a lot of the golf professionals came out of the caddy ranks, isn't that correct?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=811.0,818.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I would say at least 90% of them. And they","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=819.0,822.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: didn't come out of the university ranks as today. Why? Why this change in golf picture?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=823.0,827.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, the only thing I can figure out is that the only golf through schools or through the Ivy League, they had a golf program, but I don't recall like Southern California or, or UCLA or University California, the great universities out here in the West had a golf program.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=828.0,848.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: If they did they were just more like clubs, sports, or they that's all. But why why the so many great golfers came out of the Kotick caddy ranks in those days. Well, you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=849.0,858.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: can imagine just as a kid picking up a golf club like I didn't just swing with the ball, see and learn how to play and and then cat in and then get in the the best of all the golfers that they caddied for and sin what they did wrong and what they could do, right. So they were all self taught.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=859.0,880.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Tell me about your own learning of the game of golf.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=881.0,883.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, you mean actually when I really felt like I could really play well see in San Diego. I was about 12 At this time, and San Diego. I live right to the entrance of the bubble Park golf course. Here In one Saturday morning, my mother made me beat rugs. And prior to that though, when I go to play, I just swing with all my might. And the ball just go up poop crib real real boxing, just like it, just like a dubber. And the one Saturday morning my mother made me beat rugs while I had this big heavier rug up against the over the clothesline, and I got my golf club instead of a beater. So I'd swing it in and first the club head would hit the rug, see, and I get that jar, it's in that swing at the next time, then my hands and my body would hit the rug in the club to be back here or that I get that shock and then all of a sudden I felt everything right up against the rug no womb home and I was able to get my hip out the way and I could feel that contacts","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=884.0,946.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: are you trying to tell us though that the way to become a great golfers Vito rugs just better, we'll come back to that in just a moment. Take a break now right thank you? Dell, you're telling me that you've learned to play golf by beating a rug for your mother. Now what I want to know what advice you could give to the people out here watching the show? Should they go beat rugs?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=947.0,1006.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, that's one way it is a way of saying I have the ambition to do it. But now, I guess I have so many rug cleaners that come to your house and clean up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=1007.0,1015.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: The game today has expert teaching and coaching because there are a lot of great golf coaches at the colleges and universities Right? Definitely they're turning out an awful lot of professionals into the ranks. Is it this made the difference in the game today? There's so many great golfers on the tour today as opposed to what the few in the past","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=1016.0,1034.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: the one two we only had about a dozen great ones when I was growing up and holding a lot of good ones. But the great ones like water Hagen do Diggle, Jean SARS and, and the amateur Bobby Jones. And now, you could go right through all the first 50 and they're great golfers. And I would say you take anyone playing in the in the tournaments today that any one of the first 100 could win a tournament, whether it be the national open, or British Open or what. But see, we are talking too much about playing professionals. They're the golfers who make a living playing golf. Now the mainstay of all the golf. The golfer is the golf professional who is a club professional. That's like myself, that stays home gives lesson to repairs clubs. Well, now we don't have to repair clubs, because we can send them away. So quickly get him repair.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=1035.0,1099.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: They'll be talking about golf pros. There were several other men who were very instrumental in the early days of golf here. And of course, one that comes to my mind immediately is Leo Deagle. And I wish to talk a little bit about Leo you you were very close to him and he was very instrumental it at El Rio Golf and Country Club.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=1100.0,1119.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, Leo Diggle to my mind was one of the greatest shot makers, even up today that he could make more golf shots was one club, and I could read my full bag. Just one example one time we're playing at Randolph, and it was a terrific wind blowing. And we're playing the fifth hole. And we drove about equal and I was just I had to shoot first. So I took out a two iron and played off to the right against the wind just hit as hard as I could and hope that he got on the green. And Leo decal took up what we call a two wood and had a nice little swing into and hit it about or three or four foot high, right down from the green and have it hit and go up into the green. And I said my god you're lucky Leo. He's though he thinks so he put down two more board made the same shot. And he said to me, Sir Dell, you'd be a great golfer. Now two brains.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=1120.0,1173.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: But Leo was a very fine professional golf anymore. He came to Tucson to Sudbury Devon","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=1174.0,1179.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: he won the PGA tournament. That's our Professional Golf Association tournament in 1928 1929. He's the one who stopped water Hagen's reign of the professional golf tournament.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=1180.0,1192.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: We bring up the name of Walter Hagen. I just liked you to tell us some of the names of golf that you keep Putting your mind as the greatest in the game.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=1193.0,1203.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: You mean in my era, your era? Well, there's Walter Hagen, Leo Diggle Jean Sarson, Johnny Farrell. Oh, I could go on. Alright, let","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=1204.0,1215.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: me ask you this question. How would they fare today with this great amount of young professionals hitting the ball that they could","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=1216.0,1222.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: hold her own? Say in those days we didn't have the equipment or the Baldwin wasn't quite an efficient player and wasn't consistent. The one thing that makes the golf great today are so good. Is that the balls consistent? In our my air? The balls wasn't?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=1223.0,1242.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I mean, it took off.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=1243.0,1245.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: No, the compression wasn't consistent. You'd have to go through maybe a dozen balls by bouncing them and get in the field and then hear the click to get solid hold up for 18 holes. The center might break or might become loose. I have had the coverage come loose way back in the 20s. And the C we played mostly with hickory shaft clubs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=1246.0,1271.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yeah. Is there a difference in the clubs today? Oh,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=1272.0,1275.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: yes. As far as scoring does, yes, it is because of what made the big difference is the shaft not the head? I can I I would say that there's at least a dozen different shape heads. But that does make a difference. They all have to have the same loft. They all have to have a certain depth of the grooves. But it's the shaft that made the difference with the steel shaft because it's your uniform and you can get a better feel out of it and you get more speed and more of a kick as you come into the ball and greater distance, much more much more.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=1276.0,1316.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: So the long hitters that today might not have been the long hitters of the past with the equipment they had.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=1317.0,1322.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: No, you better give that one to me again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=1323.0,1324.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: The long hitters have today. If they had to play with the clubs of Hagen and Hogan and Sarazen, they might not be the long","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=1325.0,1331.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: who knows they wouldn't be as long as they are today. Because even today after after I got acquainted with hickory shaft, she occasionally I would belong. She ought to be around 270 yards 280 Well, that's what the average today hidden, but my average in my day was about 240 250 That's from the hickory shaft. And then when I got the steel shaft, I I got 20 yards further.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=1332.0,1359.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Does it amaze you to see the distance that these boys get today?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=1360.0,1362.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Oh, it scares me. Matter of fact, I watched him one time, just a couple of winters ago over to Randolph. I got behind one of the golfers and the ball started out and look like a little tiny pea way up there in the disk. And it just kept going.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=1363.0,1379.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Alison Dell, we've got to get back to another Dell your story. So tell us about the incident at Randolph Lake.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=1380.0,1385.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Oh, that was a funny one. And then once we had one of our summer rains from just poured down, and I happened to be I entered a Sunday afternoon. And I was alone in the shop. And number one fairway just flooded. And the phone rang. So I answered. Well, good afternoon, Randolph lake fishing license books available. And they hung up and they call back right away.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=1386.0,1414.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: And he told us that story. But you didn't tell us what happened when they call back? Oh,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=1415.0,1418.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I use I don't want to tell you. I can't say that what","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=1419.0,1421.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: did there or you don't want to tell us what they called you over the telephone. Dell York. I want to thank you very much for being with us today. And I want to thank you for all the years you put on in the sport. And I recall that you were a volunteer. Anytime we called you to play for the sportsman fund, send a kid to camp and I can remember you shot a fabulous 62 round for us one time, and I hope you have many great years ahead. Thank you very much. We hope you'll be back with us again next week on eyewitness to history.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222#t=1422.0,1424.0"}]},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74362/file/160222/transcript/38317/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/038/317/original/azu_ms685-015_a.vtt?1654116664","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/038/317/original/azu_ms685-015_a.vtt?1654116664"}]}]}]}