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I was supposed to go to Northwestern and that particular year, in 21 we had another depression, and not nearly like we had in 29 but because of that, I could go to the University of Arizona and see with very little tuition. Okay, that helped a great deal, but I'm happy that it worked out that way. Yeah, oh, yeah. Well, so are we, you bet,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=83.0,114.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: yeah. And now you have two sons, yes. And are they UA alumni? 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Okay, we're rolling again,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=220.0,221.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: okay, I didn't quite, are the glasses? 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No, because everybody on campus knew everybody else there were when I entered in 21 there were only 1200 students. When I graduated, there were 1700 now there's 39,000 Right, right, and I was interested. We had 12 buildings on campus when I first entered. Now, I think there are 69 including the new student Memorial. Oh, okay, okay, get her in the shot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=337.0,378.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: Here are we still okay? You were good? Yeah, I think this should be it okay. 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I was thinking about Bob for guy, he's blind and and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=1132.0,1143.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: here, and he's in a wheelchair.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=1144.0,1147.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: I'm happy that I'm able to be open. And my biggest joy in life is having a lot of friends. And like I've said many times, without a man or a woman, without is the poorest person on earth, sorts kept me going. Was interested. That's one reason. When I came back from overseas, back from Germany. I went into the photography business and skipped New York completely. No idea what the future was going what I was doing, and I put in extra time. Met a lot of good friends, you know, things like. It. 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I don't think I did aerial photography that I like to do, but for several years, however, I'm waiting to take another one right right now. Pilot friend was offered to duplicate some of the shots that I did in 1948 and 49 of Colorado Springs. Ah, and there's a couple of in the show, but I want to duplicate those. The Garden of the Gods area, for instance, the one that I took, well, you're familiar with that area, but there was a dirt road called Mesa road, and it wound over the top of the mesa. Nothing on it, except the water plant, which is still there now, the garden the gods. And they're putting up $750,000 just to buy the lot. And they're putting up these million dollar homes and that kind of stuff that never would have really dreamed happening the way it did, right? 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I think one of my personal favorites is my my son that graduated aeronautical engineer. When he was a year old, he was looking down into a jack lantern. And a lot of people have discussed that that is another one of him at Laguna Beach, stark naked when he was a year old, sitting on a rock watching the waves come in. And he told he looked so delighted. And the other thing is up the top of the picture, I call Parker house, roll on a rock, because little, beautiful, I don't know there. I have several my next door when I lived in Tucson, was railroad engineer. He came on, came up home one morning, about three o'clock in the morning and he'd been out hunting, and he said, come on out. Look at the elk that I have. I said, the heck with the elk. Come on in and sit down. I want to take your picture. And he had the cigarette and his beat up old hat and stuff. 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Okay, looking back over your career as a photographer, was proud of,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=1651.0,1667.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: well, I made it for Hewlett Packard. They were having trouble with the connections on their boards that were corroding, and they're using silver and everything else on the sun that they could to try to stop that. And I said, Let me a little bit. So I used ultraviolet light on it. I could see where the corrosion was and how exhibit so they switched so they haven't been in trouble since just one of those things that happened. 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Yeah, sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=1715.0,1717.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: Now, do you know who Jay Rockland is. He's the editor in chief of the magazine. Anyway, he's he's a photographer buff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=1718.0,1725.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yeah, that's the Yes, yeah. He's my boss. I met him,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=1726.0,1732.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: so he wanted me to ask you, what is your face?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=1733.0,1737.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: Well, I've used Nikon, 35 millimeter for I have three of them, and I use that more than anything. But I also like my four by five camera that sent about three different lenses that I for most of the artwork that all I'm out at Hewlett. Packard, okay,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=1738.0,1765.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: what are you most proud of during your service with because you were with both the Army and the Air Force?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=1766.0,1770.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: Yeah, well, when I was in the cavalry, I went from the buffalo regiment, which is the 10th cavalry, where they were all black cavalry money, except officers, and they were white and outraged. It was called the buffalo regiment, something kind of a long story after a certain length of time. And I was transferred to the Seventh Cavalry, which is custer's old regiment, and I was with them for about seven years, I think only in the summer. That was just I was a reserve Council when the war broke out, they 41 they decided I wanted to get into the Air Force and be a photographer for them on the Signal Corps. Well, when they called me into the service, of course, they called me into the army, and a half an hour later I got called into the Air Force. So I missed it by that much the whole war and here and in Germany with army. When I left Germany, I wasn't feeling too hot anyway, and they said, Well, you want to stay in the army to to get your retirement? And I said, Not if I can transfer the Air Force. So I got the transfer. 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Well, I got this letter from Miss lonicer, and he said we thought, before they ever saw it, that they thought it's just a small bill, you know, about the size of this. And he said we were going to hang it. We had building. Mother collapsed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=1984.0,2004.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: And was that discipline to you because it waited in storage for a long time? Right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=2005.0,2008.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: No, the most enjoyment I get out of the location where people can see it and hear us, otherwise it would have been a waste of time and effort still in the stadium in Phoenix, I guess. So, I don't know. I'm just happy with turned out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=2009.0,2036.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: And you know, they designed that whole building to represent the USS, Arizona. Yeah,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=2037.0,2041.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: talk to Chris about that. 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It just sort of worked out that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=2179.0,2186.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: And where did you first see her?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=2187.0,2190.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: Yeah, in the Delta Gamma house, across from from Zuni court, where the salon with the first fraternity elder about three years later, and the Delta gamut quite often. 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Go ahead, yeah,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=2229.0,2234.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Bill, I just want to ask you, I guess, a couple","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=2235.0,2237.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: things. 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And a place where the alumni will be able to look at the history, there's going to be some of the history of the university that's told throughout this entire area, yeah? And I just wanted to, you know, ask your opinion of that, if you thought we were going the right direction. Yeah,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=2282.0,2300.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: I think so. How would you tell them about the campus and things like that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=2301.0,2306.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 4: Well, I think they're planning on having some of the history of the university actually sort of in the rocks or in the granite, and it's going to be very representative of what the history of the university was like, the missions of the university, or teaching and research and outreach. And there's like three fountains that will be representing that, and it'll be sort of somehow on signage, what the mission of the university is. So they're gonna tell it like that. And then, you know, we have the heritage all inside the Student Union, which is next to the USS Arizona exhibit, yeah. So we'll have all of that available. You know, what we're trying to do, as you know, is, you know, try to get the students to understand the history of the university. And I know you were a bobcat when you were there. Was that? 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I learned more about the campus that day than I had any idea of what the the immensity of the university has become, and especially when I had the privilege of going up in the President's box to watch the football game, which I didn't like because you're too far from the field. I'd rather watch it on TV, but I was honored to the fact that I could go up there. But I think much as possible, they should do they all. Get the alumni magazine,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=2571.0,2625.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 4: the ones we have addresses for which is about 165,000 165,000 get the magazine so they'll be reading about you. 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That's a hard question. It certainly is that I don't know if University date. I can't Dean Butler, who's head of mining engineering, was always a very close friend and a guiding light. And of course, Dean Cummings, I took archeology two classes with him, and I think he wasn't really a guiding light, but it was an inspiration in many ways, and I think the military, probably General Patton would be the one that would stand out in my mind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=2718.0,2774.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: Did you work directly with him? 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Well,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=3100.0,3106.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: 1868, is when my grandfather arrived. Now, my grandmother came two years later, but he was the chemist, and as there for the first goal that was brought out of Cripple Creek. Bob Womack started the whole thing, and then he went from there with with Palmer and some of the other fellows that hit really hit it, you know. So he was in Cripple Creek for several years. Then he went to Denver, and he was an Assayer up there. I'm not sure you know, Steve was, he was the mentor, or something else I was he always with Colorado College and, well, department after, yeah, after he was in Denver a couple of years. Then he was head of the chemistry department and taught chemistry and as a Colorado College, and then he passed away in 1913 when we had the tremendous six foot snow storm here, which I have a picture of. It wasn't my picture, but I had Pikes Peak Avenue snow up to here on people and your","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=3107.0,3183.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: mother was a chemistry professor, yeah,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=3184.0,3188.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: yeah, she was chemistry professor. Then my father was head of the music department. So our roots from deep in Colorado College. I that was my choice. Instead of with Northwestern I was going to go to Colorado College, and that's, that's when the Depression hit and I couldn't get out of Arizona. How did they get from here to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=3189.0,3218.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: Bisbee? Oh, because his father got a job as a music superintendent, yeah, so Nancy wanted me to get the spelling of the names for grandfather. 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Okay, and then your mother was the chemistry professor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=3235.0,3240.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: Yes, she was Marguerite. Okay, Marguerite, Marie, Mary, lamb. Then she married. Course, married my dad.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=3241.0,3254.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: Okay, okay, and I was going to ask you to what nationality is Bowers. What? What is that? 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Any of your buffaloes? Soldier, Sergeant to the sergeant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=3287.0,3307.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: My favorite story, the buffalo regiment was all black, like I told you, with white officers. So they jokingly, they said they were officers with black privates. And of course, that can be taken two ways. But yeah, we were when I first went down, her second lieutenant the Pancho Villa had a group of running aids out Mexico that used to raid the little towns across the border, Douglas Howard, Prieto and no yellow some places like that. So our job, the 10th of cavalry job, was to push them back into Mexico. Well, I wasn't involved in that because I was like, two years after that happened. But my favorite story when I was assigned to the 10th cavalry, we were going out on some very intricate maneuvers with the horses, and this big old black sergeant came up to me. He said, Now, lieutenant said, If you don't understand these maneuvers. Don't you fret it, because the horse knows. And I thought, you're pulling my leg, you know, because I'm a fresh single lieutenant, and he'd been armish for years, and by golly, we went out on maneuvers, and I said, I'm going to test him. So I dropped the reins right in the middle of maneuvers, and the horse just went right where he's supposed to go. When I came back, I looked up the whole sergeant. I said, I thought she was a liar, that you were pulling my leg because he said, No. He said, That's true. They really do. Yeah, I have a lot of respect for the horses, even though they were hard riding the cavalry. I played Polo. There's all the difference in the world between a polyphony and a coward a horse, but that is one of the incidents in my life that I'll never forget.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=3308.0,3434.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: Well, did you learn how to ride before you came to the U of A? Were you? No, I didn't. 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He put us through some pretty rough training, yeah, but I just wanted to get a little touch of military. I thought it was kind of glamorous. Oh, Bill, what his favorite foods are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=3459.0,3475.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Oh, what are your favorite foods? Foods?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=3476.0,3480.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: Well, mince pie. I don't know there's quite a variety. It's pretty hard to say what your favorite is. Course, I like any kind of a casserole and lasagna and things like that, salads. But right now, I'm limited to several different things, so I'm struggling a lot. Do you like Mexican food? Oh, yeah, I like it, yeah. Do they have it was not too hot?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=3481.0,3517.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: Do they have any good Mexican food in Colorado Springs. 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But did you do your own as far as developing your film and your photographs, you did that all?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=3544.0,3553.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: Yeah, when, when I first started in San Diego, way back in 16 there wasn't any photographer studio that you could take your film to aside. I did all my and I was using glass plates at the time, but they didn't they had very little film. So I processed all of that in the kitchen sink, washed the prints in the bathtub, and I built my own and larger using the camera that I'd taken the pictures with. So I started way back there with the chemistry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=3554.0,3593.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay, and what about computers? Do you do anything on","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=3594.0,3596.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: a computer? But. That I've never gotten into that when I get through and I've been lately, while I was working at the Art Center for the last 20 years, when the computers really came into the forefront, I didn't have time to sit down and run through all the stuff that most people like to do my my younger son, he's just glued to it all the time. And I thought when I get home the Art Center, my eyes are kind of tired anyway, because it was close work. I know I had quite a bit of retouching things to do also,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=3597.0,59.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2  1:0: well. And what do you think too about Do you know what Photoshop is like, where they take a photograph and they manipulate it on the computer, they change the look of it, and stuff like that. What do you think about that? Do you think that that's dishonest photography?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=60.0,59.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1  1:0: Well, it isn't, yeah, it's manipulative photography, but it's good that they can do it, because I was down at Photoshops recently, and they had, it was a wedding party and about 15 people in it, but there's one man they didn't want in there. Moved the others closer together, but they can fact that they can do that. But actually, I love black and white photography because you can manipulate that during the processing, which you can't do too much of that with color. I guess Steve can tell you about that too. So since I've been doing color photography, the labs take care of all of that stuff, but many times I wish there was some way that I could move part of it to a different place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=60.0,60.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2  1:0: So that doesn't bother you, that that's not","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333#t=61.0,60.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2320/collection_resources/98183/file/195333/transcript/87447/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1  1:0: particular. I think we're going to digitalize everything anyway. At the Fine Arts Center, they have over 50,000 different items. I photographed about 10,000 of them, but now they're going to put it all on desk so that the everything that I've photographed is on a five by seven card with a little 35 millimeter picture up corner. So they get to put and that takes a lot of space. 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