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I'm Kent Rollins, director of the Arizona Alumni Association. Today we're going to talk about a University of Arizona program called Project origins that joins both archaeology and special education. My first guest today is Jamie Giddings, who is the project director for project origins. And, Jamie, I want to thank you for coming today and sharing a little bit of your knowledge with us. Tell me that those are pretty diverse fields archaeology and special education. What did you have in mind when you join those two together into this project?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=74.0,108.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Basically, the the idea started with an idea that a lot of the tasks in archaeology might lend themselves particularly well to, to being done by students with handicaps with both mental handicaps and physical handicaps. They're, although some of the some of the tasks can be very complex, they can be divided into short, discrete behavioral units. And those can be taught, once they're learned, they can be done basically over and over again in the same sequence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=109.0,144.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay. Your your background is special education, your expertise? How did you get interested or get the knowledge you needed about the archaeological field?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=145.0,156.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, at the at the time, the number of us came up with the idea, I was a graduate student in both special education and anthropology. So anthropology being the study anything, you can virtually fit anything into that discipline. My my coursework was not in archaeology, however. So I've relied on the archaeologist, primarily at the Arizona State Museum. For that expertise.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=157.0,183.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Tell me about the types of handicapped students that you work with in Project origin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=184.0,188.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: care, most of the most of the students we work with, are classified as severely handicapped. And that includes students with moderate to severe mental handicaps, students with autism, or students with multiple impairments, or some combination of mental and physical handicaps.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=189.0,209.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Do you have some specific goals that the project is aimed at? Obviously, there's probably some related to the students but share those with us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=210.0,218.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yeah, I think I think there are a number of them. The first one is to use archaeology as a matrix for training job skills. So a lot of the a lot of the tasks while specific to archaeology, can also be used to train general job skills, certain kinds of tool use, following directions, attention to tasks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=219.0,241.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: You mentioned earlier, the program was hold.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=242.0,244.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: We're completing our second year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=245.0,247.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay, in how do you how is it funded?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=248.0,250.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: It's funded by a federal grant from the US Office of Education and the severely handicapped branch, and were founded as a demonstration project.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=251.0,261.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: What, in the first two years, what kind of success? Do you have some particular stories you'd like to tell about? The success of the program?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=262.0,270.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I think is a there's a sequence and I think the the first part of it was to see how how practical the idea in general really was. Could students with with handicaps be trained to be a productive member of a of an archaeological team? And I think within the first and the second years, we've demonstrated that a number of tasks can in fact be done by students with with handicaps with proper training. With proper supervision. I think another goal that we had was to develop archaeology in particular, as a source of some longer term employment possibilities. We've made some headway on that the, the jury is not not in on it. But so those are some things that are that are left to be done.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=271.0,323.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay, Jamie, we're gonna take a break, and we'll be right back. Please stay with us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=324.0,329.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Good evening, I'm","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=330.0,330.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Diane.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=331.0,341.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Welcome back to Arizona alumni forum. I'm Kent Rollins, director of the Arizona Alumni Association. We're talking about project origins. And now we have with us two archaeologists. Michael fought in Christian downtown. Gentlemen, thanks for being with us today. Thanks for having me. Tell me a little bit in terms of project origins, the use of severely handicapped students? Does this really assist you help you and in what fashion? Would you get more done with or without them?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=342.0,370.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I think all the students contribute something according to their their abilities. Everyone who's worked on the project has been able to participate in some task. And I think, certainly they've helped us get a lot of fieldwork accomplished.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=371.0,384.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: A lot of the work that we've done so far at some of the sites we worked at wouldn't have gotten done otherwise, except for project origins involvement, so that the per person activities may be lower than non handicapped people there certainly quite a bit that gets done because of their involvement.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=385.0,398.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: If If you had to use an alternative to these handicap students, where would you find the people to do it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=399.0,406.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, there would be is often there's undergraduate and graduate students both work in archaeology and do contract work that would be being done. But that isn't quite what we're doing in this project. This project is more research oriented, and since it's funded from the federal government for the moment, there, it just wouldn't be being done except for our presence. Okay,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=407.0,427.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: now you've brought the slides with you. We have both what fieldwork and lab work, maybe if we could bring the slides in, you might describe what what you see here on your monitor. Now, this","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=428.0,436.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: first slide shows some of the fieldwork that was done this past spring at a at a village site in the northern end of the Tucson mountains about 15 miles north of town. And here you see project origins students, some of them from flowing wells, the flowing wells school excavating This is a shot of a some detailed traveling down in the floor of a pit house, that house about 700 years old, as part of this village. This is one of our our students has just discovered a broken pot in the doorway of the pit house. Another phase of the project has been fieldwork in northern Arizona in Flagstaff, this past summer, we took a group before the students to a site called elven Pueblo and perform various tasks. They're involved in the maintenance and the reconstruction of that ruin for visitation","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=437.0,485.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: by the public. And we also work in the lab materials that come in from field work have to be washed. In here, one of our staff is helping out one of the origins students to learn how to wash artifacts, we go through and find screen dirt as an experimental thing, not only for the kids to see how they can manipulate the dirt. But also, it's something that isn't usually done in archaeology. And we were able to do that. We then labeled all the artifacts that we bring in. And that's been a great area of unexpected boon to the project that kids are really able to learn to do it. Here's an example of one of our best students at Michael Bailey. And he, he's a real hot, hot student, when it comes to labeling has helped us out quite a bit, we then sort and count all the materials and some of the students aren't capable to do that in one sequence. But with the help of counting boards and sorting boards, we're able to break the task down into units that they can handle. And an unexpected benefit of program has been the introduction or the realization that they're easily capable of manipulating computers and entering data and keeping notes field notes in the computer. So those have been real. But at first, we wondered whether these people would probably come in and wash some stuff for us, and maybe they'd be able to label it well. As it turns out, they're able to do a wide range of activities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=486.0,565.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: So I think you mentioned counting, sorting, some computer work, washing, labeling, labeling, in terms of the training, can you describe for us how many students you have and how you might get them involved initially in the in a project?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=566.0,584.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, it's been a real experimental. We in the last two years, of course, in the first year, we pretty much just flew by the seat of our pants. We didn't know quite how to interact with the archaeologists and the handicap population and we You've just through a process of trial and error, we've found that a lot of attention to what they're doing and start breaking tasks down to minute. Details has helped us out immensely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=585.0,611.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Chris has been working with him in the field. In terms of field work, we basically give the students the same instruction that we would give any hired labor or any student field worker that proper instructions and the use of shovels and picks, how to bag artifacts, how to keep certain kinds of artifacts separate from others. So basically, maybe proceed with the instruction, a little slower than we normally would. But But basically, it's the same set of instructions in the fieldwork that we would give any archaeological field worker","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=612.0,641.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: about in terms of actual supervision in the field, or you're with them all the time, I'm assuming. Now other other staff members,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=642.0,651.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: we, we have had in this project, perhaps one or two extra staff people in the field. One of the things that we're very concerned about, since this is an experimental program is maintaining the quality control over the collection of the archaeological data in the field. And so we have had one or two extra archaeologists from the State Museum. We're also assisted by a number of teachers from the public schools and teachers aides who come out with with the children. 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Can you describe that? What does it mean? Well, symbiotic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=689.0,695.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: mutualism is a term that implies that both of us are benefiting from this relationship. The students are gaining both job skills and social interaction with non handicapped population that's helped them out greatly, and the possibility of some employment, and we have benefited from it likewise, by being able to get some extra research done. And it's very rewarding to work with the people also. So that it's of mutual benefit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=696.0,726.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay, gentlemen, we're gonna take a break, and we'll come right back and talk some more, please stay with us. Welcome back to Arizona alumni forum. I'm Kent Rollins, director of the Arizona Alumni Association. We're talking about a University of Arizona project today called Project origins. We have three guests with us in this segment, Jamie Giddings, the project director who we've talked to a little bit already, Christopher Harmon, who is a vocational rehabilitation supervisor, and Marianne Daly, who is the parent of a son, who was in the program, project origin. I want to thank all of you for being with us today. Brianne, maybe we can start. Tell us a little bit about your son.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=727.0,778.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Her son, Michael is autistic. And he's now 20 years old, of autism shows up around 18 months to two years, that time we realized something was different about Michael. It took a long time before we had in diagnosed. Society in the medical profession, and everything else has gone in great strides in the last 20 years on autism. And he finally got into an educational program, we found out that education really was the best thing for an autistic child. And a lot of love. They react, they feel that autism is a stand off. Leave me alone, I want to be myself in a corner. It's really not true. They just have to be taught and brought out in you show them that you love them. And you still give them space, but let them know you love them. And this is what is Michael has gone through he has gone great strides. at age three, we were told institutionalized him that it's difficult and as handicapped as he was at that time. He would never be any better, he would be worse. And he has proven everybody wrong. Because he does feed himself. He does take care of himself. He reads he writes. And he talks. He uses a typewriter he uses a computer. Michael is a very great success story. And I'm very proud of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=779.0,861.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: how did Michael get involved with Project origins?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=862.0,864.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well through Jamie getting a Michael attend CDO special education. And Jamie was looking at students and talking to the special education departments in the pre vocational people at the different schools in the different districts. And Michael was ready for a pre vocational type of education in his studies. And the thought let's try let's see what happens. Now. What Michael does at the University at the archaeological department came about strictly after he got there. The original feelings was Yes, Michael could do this. But they didn't know what Michael could do. And what I think, as a mother, great thing is that we have these ordinary, everyday people who are really not special education people, Jamie is, but the rest of them are just like you, me and everybody in this room. And they work with these children. And they take care of them, and they understand them. And they're not afraid of them. They know what they can do. And they take the time and patience to find out and I think it's paid off. I think it's really rewarding.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=865.0,937.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Do you see most of the skills that you say, Michael has now they've been developed as part of this program? Or Yes,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=938.0,944.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: okay. They have, Michael is right now Mike was more secure about himself. He will do more things on his own. He will start new jobs. I'm talking about moving segment to segment he still has to be private. I think Michael had his weight, probably go back and sit in that corner. But he will do those things now. And he does meet people much better. And he's at home. He's more secure within himself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=945.0,974.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Chris, from your professional point of view, how do you see project origins really helping the severely handicapped?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=975.0,982.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, Rehab Services Administration hasn't really focused on the severely handicapped as much as possible. And the past couple of years, we look at people who can go to work. And when, as a counselor, I saw severely disabled people being led through the door, I wondered what employers going to take this person, where am I going to go with them? I didn't have an appropriate service, I didn't have anything adequate for them. When we start dealing with a program like origins, that says we can take a field that is you've never even thought of for this person, and develop some skills for them. And then make these skills actually marketable, make them do something that is worth something. Then we start paying some attention. This is this is okay. We'll work with that guy. Now. I will talk to Michael now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=983.0,1037.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: How did you get connected to Jamie in Project origins?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=1038.0,1041.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Did he find you or did you mutual friend actually had lunch I was asked to come over and sit in the lab. See what was going on in there. I walked in saw one autistic young man sitting there with his coffee in his hand rocking back and forth. Monday morning, but no archeologist walked in, walks up hand on his head coffee in his hand says I had a terrible night. Oh, it looks like you had a bad night too. Let's go to work. That's the point where I said, this is gonna work. This is this is real.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=1042.0,1082.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Jamie, there's a there's a personal side, I think of this whole program to you tell us a little bit about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=1083.0,1088.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I have a seven year old daughter with down syndrome. And so it puts me in a kinship group with parents with with handicapped children. It's kind of an exclusive group, because we have a different perspective on how we look at things. And I think any, any parent of a handicap, son or daughter, whether they're children or, or adults will tell you all the things that they can do, they really focus in on their abilities. Until lately, most of society really didn't do that they focus more on their disabilities. So as a parent, I think I realized that really what what the landscape is going to be when my daughter hits vocational age, more graduation age, will be less a function of what types of ability she has, and more of a function of what's available in society. So I think that this is just, you know, one small attempt to make certain things available that weren't there before.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=1089.0,1157.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Chris told me about Manny, I heard about Manny, we've heard about Michael success, but tell me about Manny.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=1158.0,1163.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I deal with students in the high schools. amphi high school called me about a student who is about to graduate and lead me into this. With my eyes wide open. The kids got severe mental problem. His intellectual skills are not very well developed. He's got a hearing impairment. He's got a visual impairment. He's got a bad heart. Yeah, I'm gonna find a job for this guy. Through the skills that he's picked up in this project over these two years. We had the the origin staff approach the Arizona State Museum and say can you use The skills that he's got. And well, the deal was if you can provide the support that he needs in order to get this done on a day to day basis, if you can back him up on this, yeah. Okay. He's working for the state just like me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=1164.0,1216.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: That's great. We're gonna take a break, and we'll come right back. Welcome back to Arizona alumni forum. We're talking today about project origins at the University of Arizona. And we're with Jamie Giddings, the director, Chris Harmon, who's a vocational rehabilitation supervisor, and Michael faute, who's an archaeologist. Before we run out of time, I think we really need to talk, maybe two things. Jimmy, you might describe the overall structure. I know there are some people behind the scenes that that helped make this program go tell us a little bit how the whole organization is structured.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=1217.0,1267.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yeah, the program is, is really a joint effort by by three separate agencies. The first that we've talked a little bit about, is the Arizona State Museum. And primarily, the archaeology section run by Paul fish is the creator of archaeology, the Department of Special Education and rehabilitation, which is primarily the department that that I'm out of, and Jim shell fine is a person there who's who's given us a lot of a lot of support. And then there's a community organization. It's called southern Arizona pilot parents. And it's a parent support group. And Dick Van and Mark is the the person who runs that. So it really is a joint collaborative effort, symbiotic mutualism at that level as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=1268.0,1314.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: The program is up and running Well, after several years now, where do you see it going?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=1315.0,1320.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I think, I think the thing that we have to do at this point is it's a federal program, and it's grant funds. And they're limited, we have three years to demonstrate what we can demonstrate. I think the I think the onus on on us at this point is to develop a strong community support system. So that after the federal funds that were linked with vocational rehabilitation, Department of Economic Security, developmental disabilities, division, local archaeological groups, as well as other academic institutions throughout the country, that could possibly replicate our project.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=1321.0,1360.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Chris, from a client services point of view, listening to you earlier, you obviously feel good about the project. But But what should or could be done from your point of view to make it better or bigger, or? Well, as the state","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=1361.0,1376.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: bought the idea already, we're going to invest more money into it next year. And on that federal grant with some state dollars, for the clients that are out there, the people who need the services, we want to see more, we want to see a little bit more detail. We want to also see that this stays archaeology, not special services, we don't want to turn it into a workshop. We want it to stay an archaeological project, because that's going to be an end for a lot of people. And it's going to be real good positive and for people","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=1377.0,1411.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: about from an archaeological point of view. What do you see happening?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=1412.0,1415.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, I think some things have happened now that we feel more comfortable with working with the population that we have out there now. And we've learned a lot more about different kinds of things we could do. We're sort of moving into a situation now where we realize we can instigate research and approach some issues of particular sites. We're working on a site out and Moran and it's quite large, we've been surface collecting it for a while, and we have in the plan to do some excavation out there. And with some people that have come on to our staff recently, we have a much better handle on the actual Tucson basin archaeology. And so we're actually that's the thrust of our operation now is to try and offset some of this state support and federal support with perhaps some archeologic monies and put the program together to actually do research. So we will be quite symbiotic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=1416.0,1467.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Do you actually know is the federal funding definitely runs out? It's not something that can be renewed. So now, you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=1468.0,1472.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: can apply for additional monies. But the but the grant, you know, that we're funded under, you know, is basically one more year and there are no guarantees on future grants.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=1473.0,1483.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Do you all feel comfortable that funding will continue? I mean, it sounds like you've got a great project going. And obviously you want to see that continue,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=1484.0,1492.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: and it's going to sell itself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=1493.0,1493.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yeah, it's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=1494.0,1496.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: going to work fine. I think too, especially now that we We also are realizing now that we can get into some specialized equipment and stuff like that. And so with some of this help, I think as we generate that kind of an organization, it will become more and more visible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=1497.0,1511.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Does this program lend itself to other universities or other museums? I mean, could you take this on the road? And is this unique to Arizona?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=1512.0,1521.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I don't think so. We've we've had some interest. San Diego State University is very interested in the model New Hampshire is is another place that's, that's, that's interested. So So again, you know, I'm there really no guarantees, but I think that there are no reasons why, you know, people in other areas, couldn't put together a similar structure and similar linkages and make this work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=1522.0,1549.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: We'd like to see it too, because it's, it would be very exciting to compare notes and to help out with a development project.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342#t=1550.0,1557.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73591/file/159342/transcript/37786/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay. Gentlemen, I really appreciate your being with us. And it sounds like you're doing some great things in this project origins and, and thank you for sharing it with our audience today. I hope you'll join us again next month on Arizona alumni forum. I'm Kent Rollins. 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