{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/jh3cz3343m/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["Episode 8713: Roy Drachman"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/038/original/university-libraries-logo-2x.png?1711560609","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Publisher"]},"value":{"en":["KPOL"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source"]},"value":{"en":["Eyewitness to History videocassettes, MS 685, box 1, tape 11"]}},{"label":{"en":["Agent"]},"value":{"en":["Chanin, Abraham S., 1921- (interviewer)","Drachman, Roy P., 1906- (interviewee)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1987"]}},{"label":{"en":["Coverage"]},"value":{"en":["Arizona"]}},{"label":{"en":["Language"]},"value":{"en":["English"]}},{"label":{"en":["Description"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAbraham (Abe) Chanin interviews Tucson businessman Roy Drachman.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["U-Matic"]}},{"label":{"en":["Identifier"]},"value":{"en":["MS685.011 (uid)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Relation"]},"value":{"en":["Eyewitness to History videocassettes (part of)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Type"]},"value":{"en":["Interviews"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAbraham (Abe) Chanin interviews Tucson businessman Roy Drachman.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"provider":[{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["University of Arizona Libraries"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["University of Arizona Libraries"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/038/original/university-libraries-logo-2x.png?1711560609","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/160/218/small/azu_ms685-011_a.mp4_1653499299.jpg?1653499300","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - azu_ms685-011_a.mp4"]},"duration":1700.779,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/160/218/small/azu_ms685-011_a.mp4_1653499299.jpg?1653499300","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-arizona.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/160/218/original/azu_ms685-011_a.mp4?1653499291","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":1700.779,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["MS685-011 [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Welcome to eyewitness to history, your personal trip through history. A trip through history as we experienced it, and remember it a trip through Living History. Professor HN, who is a veteran of a half century of Arizona journalism will be your guide. You will visit with some of the state's most important personalities and your neighbors who are eyewitness to history. Today's guest is Roy Drachman, grandson of Tucson pioneers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=24.0,120.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Welcome to eyewitness to history. Today's guest is a member of one of Tucsonans most prominent pioneer families. You drive across Strachman street, there's a Drachman school and TrackMan Institute at the University of Arizona. And Roy Drachman is a third generation to Sonian, who has made and lived history in our city. And really I would like to begin our interview today. Going back to your grandfather Philip's arrival in Tucson. Tell us about his story.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=121.0,153.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, I wasn't here, of course, welcome him. But he arrived here, according to my grandmother, he came through here in 1854, which was less than a year after this part of the United States became a part of the United States. And he went on to the coast or was here visiting went back. And then he came here sometime in the early 60s To permanently live and I can't we have no record of the exact date but it was in the early 1860s. And he came by either foot or horseback or wagon. And he he had been born he was born in Poland, which at that time was controlled by Russia. Poland, as you know, has been the battleground between Russia and Germany for many generations. And the control is ebbed and flowed back and forth. And he was a when he was a young man about 12 years old, the family dug a hole in the basement of their underneath their their house to hide him because when they were 13, the Russian soldiers would come along and pick up the boys 13 years old, put them in the service and that'd be the end of their family relationship. So they didn't want that to happen to him. So they dug this hole under the house and scattered the dirt at night around and he lived there for a couple of years. And then he escaped somehow or other and came to this country. And it's interesting that he came on the same ship with Barry Goldwater his grandfather and Barry Go Go waters Great Uncle Mike. And they came to from from Poland to England and then from England to the United States together and then later, my grandfather stopped in Philadelphia where he had some relatives that Goldwater's went on around to California and then he joined them and they worked their way back to Arizona later on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=154.0,269.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Now. Also, your grand uncle Samuel came out, influenced by his brother Philip yet and both of them played very important roles. Philip was a member of the early territorial legislature as I recall and and I see many references to Sam dracoon did very instrumental in the starting of our school system here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=270.0,291.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well Sam was his younger brother but came here very soon after Philip did and did play a important role. He had a A cigar store that was more like the, I guess, the early old Pueblo club where all the the businessmen and the cowboys and the in there and the the criminals and everybody else hung out. And it was quite a gathering place. And I remember going there when I was about four years old and he stood me up on the table. And that's the only time I remember my Uncle Sam. But he was a prominent citizen here and was interested in the school served on the school board for many, many years. And then after he got off the board, most Drachman Oliver Drachman is father served on the board. And then Harry Drachman served on the board and so did Oliver drag. So we had a string of about four Drachman that served on the school board there, I guess for a period of 3040 years,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=292.0,347.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I was interested in finding Samuel Jackman's diary at the Arizona Historical Society. And in there he has a clipping showing the 10 commandments that he posted at his old cigar store in Tucson in those days. Had you ever seen that? Oh, I hadn't? Well, you should see it because he's one of the most of them he must have man been a man a very amusing propor. I think he did. He had a good sense of humor, because it says on there the 10 commandments, the first one is I recall. So Thou shalt not pass Samuel Drachman cigar store with not entering it. And the second was something like that thou shall not come in without buying a cigar. So he must have had a great sense of humor. You remember your grandmother very, very, very well. I wish it would tell us about Rosa.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=348.0,390.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, she was the wife of Philip. She was born and raised in Baltimore, Maryland. And I would like to know whether it was an arranged marriage, or whether my grandfather met her through normal circumstances and went back and, and married. They went to New York, where marriage in New York, and then they came by ship to the Panama Canal to Panama, of course, it was no canal there. And they shipped they came from New York to Panama was called Arizona. And they landed at Panama and cross the Panama is Isthmus of Panama on the on a wagon and then they resume their their boys on by ship to San Francisco and then landed there and then took another ship another boat down to Los Angeles. And she then went to San Bernardino where Philips sister was married to a man But Hema Hyman Goldberg, and Hyman Goldberg was the ancestor of The Goldbergs who were very prominent in Phoenix and Chet Goldberg Jr. is still survived there and he would be a grandes he'd be a great grandson I guess of this, of this. Mrs. Mrs. Goldberg, who was my great uncle, great aunt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=391.0,469.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: We your grandmother related in a news interview many years ago, her wagon trip to Tucson. And I think that many of our younger viewers would be very well educated to read what it was for her to come across on wagon from San Bernardino to Tucson when they rise right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=470.0,487.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yeah, she they got there in the in I think was early in June. And they decided it was too arduous a trip to cover across the desert in the middle of the summer. So she remained there until October and left there early in October. I think it took him over 20 days to come here from from San Bernardino by wagon,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=488.0,507.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: quite a difference from our air conditioned cars. We'll take a break now we'll come right back. I'd like to come up a generation now in the history of the Drachman family and turn to your father Emanuel, who was fabulous entrepreneur and did so many marvelous things in the old pueblo. I wish you would talk a little bit about some of his accomplishments.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=508.0,577.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, when he was young, he he he finished four years off school and he after the fourth grade he quit school and went to work to try to help support the family. There were 10 children in the family very soon thereafter, and he had to go to work and he he ran his Father had a hauling business, a transportation business and my father's first job was to take care of the horses and he did that. And then later he was in the it was in he was a Iceman for a while riding the ice wagons and then he went to work for the Southern Pacific Railroad at the, in the shops, a blacksmith shop. And he developed into a very Husky 203 pounder that was five foot nine and was hard as a rock and he loved to play baseball and baseball was his a major part of his life. And it was","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=578.0,638.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: true that he introduced the curveball with Arizona. Well, it's,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=639.0,641.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: it's he said that some visiting team came through here and a pitcher showed him how to throw a curveball and he was the first first one in town to throw a curveball and I've had some friends of mine tell me Yeah, and you picked up that that talent had been thrown curveballs. Well, that isn't quite true. But anyway, yeah, he loved to play baseball and he eventually he went in was in the service during the Spanish American War. He was a first lieutenant and then came out as a captain and then he came back to Tucson and was when the UnderSheriff was under Sheriff under Frank Murphy in the sheriff's office for four years and then in 19, three, he you know, Malema neat Hawk who was a great uncle of George Hawk, who was around here, they bought the old Elysian Grove, which was a 13 acre. Park down on the corner of Simpson ends and Main Street,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=642.0,696.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: just off the old","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=697.0,697.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: barrio, yes, just off by right where the Korea school is. Right. And that was an amusement park and they developed a baseball field there. They had a beer garden and saloon. And they built a pavilion, which was a skating rink and a dance hall and when they had bandstand, and they had band concerts, and they also, he bought the First Motion Picture machine to the state of Arizona. And he ran movies down there, and then he built the first swimming pool was built in Tucson. And the first airplane that ever flew in Arizona was brought here by by flatcar, and the railroad and was assembled and flew at the Elysian grill, they had to take down the fence centerfield fence so the plane could take off and I've got a picture in my office of that of that flight. I was there was I was four years old. It was a 1910. And so he, he, he he was entrepreneur and a showman. And then he had the whole opera house, the Opera House theater on Congress, Congress Street, right where the baker shoe store is now. And then he had the old Broadway theater, which was on Broadway and stone but that didn't last very long. But he had a theater there with a man named Ben Goldsmith, who was his partner. And then they took over the reality of theater which I think is now the Paramount or was the Paramount up on the east end of Congress Street. So he was in the theater business and in those days the they ran movies but they also had the road shows come through a lot of one night stand shows would come through the second companies from the with the famous shows would come through Tucson and and the stars weren't as big as the ones that played in New York, but they were a lot of people Raymond Hatton. And when he Lightner who are movie fans will remember where from my dad and stock companies air and Ginger Rogers played when I was running the theater, she came through here on the water bill circuit as a young 16 year old girl and a lot of the a lot of the stars who later became stars came through we had the Sistine choir came here and appeared at the RE alto theater, we had the Hungarian national chorus came through and appeared there, pavlova, the, the famous Russian ballet star, she came and played with her group at the theater. And so there were a lot of things that happened. We had a theatre company of the Grand Opera Company from Russia came through, they played Boris good enough, and then there's a death scene. And after the death scene, there's an epilogue in the in the opera, I understand. And the way after the death scene, the audience got up and left and thought the play was over with the crowd. The curtain came up and and the actors came back out the opera performance, it was nobody in the theater. So it was it was kind of humorous thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=698.0,868.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: You wrote in your book memoirs, how you grew up on the what some people might consider the wrong side of town, you never considered the wrong side of town. You thought that growing up in that area contributed a lot to what you've accomplished in your life, or am I correct on that? Well,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=869.0,882.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I don't know. I guess I don't know if that's true or not. But I wouldn't argue with you. I think it helped but we did live only a block in half in the red light district and I don't know how that helped me in any way. But, but we there were two saloons on just a half a block from our home and we lived on the wrong side that tracks but I think I learned a lot. Most of my friends were Mexican kids and we got to be great friends and I learned how to speak Spanish Lee street Spanish then and then we went to school together and we lived on the wrong side of town but I enjoyed it and I think it was a good experience for me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=883.0,919.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well that's what really gave you a real feeling and love of of Tucson and the area that's been reflected all through your career.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=920.0,925.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, thank you Eve. I did I do love Tucson and I can say that the university in Tucson are two of the most important things in my life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=926.0,938.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Getting back a little to growing up on that side. There were times you had to defend yourself a little bit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=939.0,943.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yes, we had to we fought our way to go to school and back again, we we got to be excellent rock throwers, we had a lot of rock fights and fist fights and it was a it was a it was an experience that I was glad I went through but I I think today would be a lot rougher down there of course is town has changed. They got to the community centers located where our house was, but it was a tough neighborhood and a question","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=944.0,970.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: about we'll take a break right now Roy and then we'll come back shortly. Roy, I want to turn to your own career which has been spectacular. You've been through so many important phase of development, Tucson theater, managing the sunshine climate club, and your work with the Del Webb Corporation. And we'll talk more about what you've done for Tucson in return. But now tell me a little bit about your career as a theater manager. You had some fabulous shows here as your father did. And also the sunshine climate club in developing Tucson.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=971.0,1056.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, when I was in school, my father's health was deteriorating badly when I was a freshman at the University in the fall of 1924. And finally in fall of 25, they told us he didn't they didn't think he'd lived 30 days. So I quit school immediately. I went to university one year and I quit school and on the 30th of November 1925 I went to work and I've been working ever since I became the manager the reality of theater I had been I'd grown up around the theaters and I had run them in the run the whole opera house in the summertime my dad and his partner would go away so I I was capable of running the theater wasn't anything was it wasn't too complicated. And so I went to work then and worked full time and we we did our business was good. We did a lot of promotion and a lot of a lot of promotion things that attracted crowds. We had the vaudeville circuit, Bonneville would come through every every Wednesday it was a big day in Tucson. Everybody come to the see the Bonneville theater. Barbell shows you had","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=1057.0,1124.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: you had in film and vaudeville film and bought a bill. Yeah, what was the big admission charge?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=1125.0,1129.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I think it was 40 cents, including the 40 cents for the days that the water bill was there. And I think it was 30 cents. Ordinarily without without the water bill, but we would pack the theater with jam packed and people would would see some acts that they would never get to see because there was no such thing as television in those days. And so it was a very popular place to go on Wednesday nights at the old re alto theater. And then I in 1929 My my father's health improved and he lived for another eight years thank goodness but in 1929 he and his partner sold out to Paramount Publix and I went to work for them. And I ran manage the opera house and my brother was managing the real world Opera House Frank Drachman. And then in 1933, I left Fox and went to work for I mean, I went to left to Paramount Publix went to work for Fox running the Fox Theater in Tucson. And I did that for seven years up till 19 Jolyon December 39 And then I became manager, the Tucson sunshine cloud Club, which was like a community, like a chamber of commerce community advertising, promoting Tourism. So we, we did a lot of publicity work and we hired had three photographers working for us at one time taking pictures of prominent people, we'd send pictures back to their society editors or the sports editor was a sports fan. And we get publicity for food.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=1130.0,1215.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: You ever dream in those days that of promoting Tucson for growth that it would grow into the city? And","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=1216.0,1221.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: of course not nobody did. I thought it someday might reach 100,000 people, but I didn't know when but it started. And of course, it's never stopped growing. So and 90 then I went into service in 1944 and got out in June 45. I had a lot of talent I was when it was a buck private and I couldn't hold me down. I came as a PFC. 15 months later, and I was glad to get home and get out. And right after that, I went into the real estate business. I had never worked in the real estate business in my life. But I decided I wanted to do it. So I got a a broker's license eventually by passing the test and I opened an office in down there on West Pennington Street. And I've been in the real estate business now for 4041 years. And I've had some some interesting experiences. In 14th 1948, the Del Webb company came into Tucson to build 700 homes because there was a demand here for them. And during the war, there have been no residences built here because of the shortage of materials and labor. So they came in and built a 700 homes and we I assemble the land for them and then I handled the sales of them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=1222.0,1296.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: That was the subdivision Roy public garden vegetable garden just south of the trowel","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=1297.0,1300.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: to south the tracks and we built one of the very first shopping centers in Tucson which was called public gardens there. It's still there at 22nd and cherry. And then I decided to that I'd like to be in the shopping center business. And so I formed a partnership with Del Webb, and we built Swan we Plaza and then we went to Phoenix and built uptown Plaza up there. And then later we built a large regional up there Christian and we also build a large regional in San Diego called Grossmont center. And so I was involved with Webb, but we built a 17 storey office building in Albuquerque that I had an interest in and we got into the hotel business, we built some highway houses and some of the old Flamingo hotels. And then I was one of the six partners who started the remodel ends, and which has grown to be a worldwide chain of theaters, hotels and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=1301.0,1359.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Roy your career it was media media, absolutely just a like a flashing Meteor in the sky but never ending. And you've returned a lot of what you made to building our community and building the university with some very generous endowments. You have a tremendous love for the university and I know a great love for the athletic program. We do have help. But I want let's turn back in our last few minutes to the town cats, which you help get started and we're president of several times. Tell us about the early days.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=1360.0,1389.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: They were the Wildcats course and other people who were downtown. They formed the tomcats it was really formed by money Mansfield and Sam Mansfield and some of the other old timers but when I went to work at the theater, I became active, although I was just a kid myself. But I became activated and we'd go out and raise money to give to the coaching staff to which was legal at that time. I don't know what they did with the money but they got they got kids in school and we helped him track kids and support the athletic probe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=1390.0,1420.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: What happened that night at the Silver Slipper club burned down well, the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=1421.0,1424.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Tomcat parties got to be pretty wild events, they'd always have one at the end of the year and they'd invite the invite the coaching staff and the and and the football players. And we had a party at the old Silver Slipper nightclub on Broadway there just east of of Campbell Avenue. And somehow rather than the other the somehow or other the party went on and on and on until about two o'clock in the morning. And we all left. But it wasn't long after that the fire department was called in the place where they went out there and in places burning and burned to the ground. And no doubt some body in our party left something on the table that caught fire or something but we we didn't get the chunk as didn't get very, very favorable publicity out of the fact that they had a party and then at the nightclub burned down that same night. But Roy,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=1425.0,1476.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: they've been a lot of favorable stories about Roy Drachman and all that you've done to help the University of Arizona and I want to commend you for your philanthropy for the school that both you and I attended and both loved. And we're very pleased to have had you on eyewitness history today.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218#t=1477.0,1479.0"}]},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74358/file/160218/transcript/38313/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/038/313/original/azu_ms685-011_a.vtt?1654116439","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/038/313/original/azu_ms685-011_a.vtt?1654116439"}]}]}]}