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Well, it would have been bought. It was a small department. So while my classmates who were pre meds were taking sections of rat kidneys and liver, and I always had an interest in design, studio, art, those kind of things. And it seemed like possible to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=15.0,46.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: injury. So they came about by association, more than than anything else I heard of that this is one way through my first degree, and then it was hard people to do that. Was hard people to do. I grew up in a suburb, and part of the like a large, two and a half acre site around the house, most of it was undisturbed, native desert, and so I was sensitivity and knowledge of some of the plant material from being he wasn't just strictly an I wasn't an urban setting that I grew up in. His name,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=47.0,93.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: parents, educators or really","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=94.0,96.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: no moms or homemakers, also a potter as a doctor. So, no, not particularly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=97.0,105.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: But why did you choose the rest of the three arts? I mean, suburb, you mix with just three species?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=106.0,112.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Oh, no, they had the house. They bought the house. I didn't have any choice in that matter. The setting appealed to them. And so it was coincidence that I should be, I should be growing up in that. But you know, my mom has always been an artist, in this sense of looking at things, maybe things you know always been to gardening those more sort of the typical association of one nation with the word landscape. I've always been part of my outbreak in that regard, decay, compost, all those kinds of the artifacts of landscaping.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=113.0,163.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: You took a biology, but then you took another undergraduate. Why didn't you just take your masters,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=164.0,169.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: or LA or it didn't seem as though I had, they were going to say, Well, okay, because you have to have all this other stuff. You have all this would be serving soil natural resource conservation, various whole range of which were all very impressive to have engineering courses these kind of and it seemed like, Well, I'll start with that. And actually, now I am pursuing it masters, many years later. But seemed like, well, I don't know that. I have to have it. Do I have to have this message to practice? No, I've got this message for some other PhD, whatever. No, it might be something you want to do if you want to do research. Those weren't necessarily research now, or about halfway through the degree. So I really haven't adopted","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=170.0,231.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: a piece of topic, but I will miss","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=232.0,233.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: you know, principally practice principal and local consulting","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=234.0,241.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: firm, actually, he's just gonna ask you about your professor. I'm still trying to get the background, sure you said you went to college. Why there was it? A good biology","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=242.0,257.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: a friend of mine had started there and said, You know, I think you'd like this place. Maybe you're going to apply. And I did, and let me in, and it seemed like great, but like to go. There wasn't much more to it than that, actually, and but I very much enjoyed that as a small college 69 students or so in suburban Los Angeles. Really rewarding experience from small classes, close work with professors,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=258.0,289.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: okay, and when you appear undergrad in LA during 77 you give us some background on how the campus language. The","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=290.0,299.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: campus is a lot like it is now. I mean, in terms of physically, there have been some buildings and facilities within the School of renewable natural resources, one of the schools in the College of Agriculture. But that was why it showed up there. I don't know, except that it probably came out of there was a before that you could get a degree in ornamental horticulture, basically, almost like plant husbandry, was officially declared landscape project. And that was probably the one I went through. The program was one of the heydays of the undergraduate degree, creditor degree, and probably started with as many as my first class, my first couple of students, which was huge after 17. So there's a lot of attrition, but it was the old student now conditioned in those kind of things. As far as the physical climate campus, a lot of it was much as it is today. And a lot of the plant materials that represented to me were still here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=300.0,376.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Other materials that this is always sort of in the area of Southwest,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=377.0,383.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: because that's where it's located. Land grant institution. That's sort of where the focus was. Sensitivity to water, precious resource, again, natural history. There's all the other sort of supporting courses. Are probably a lot of them still there. So you probably could reassemble that program fairly quickly because they were borrowed from, let's say, the College of Engineering, mines, other programs within our agriculture, elsewhere, not a particularly close tie to the architecture, which is the case now part of the College of Architecture, Planning","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=384.0,422.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: but there was a close relationship. There","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=423.0,424.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: was not. There really was not. It was peculiar that to a lot of people, why there wasn't. But then there were those who said, No, that's a more common Association other institutions to have a College of Environmental development, which I think, architecture, interior design, other other disciplines that may fit together obvious Association. This connection is cool in global natural resources and silver culture, wildlife biology, watershed management, recreation has a more unique Association. That's where you really want to want to be, because that's large scale regional planning, Chief Architect, Bs, designers, but also as administrators, researchers, educators, in that sense, particularly because that's where the association really got it. So there were sort of two schools of thought. And then when the 80s progressed, changing hands, would be a lot more emphasis on the biology, those kind of things within the college that the school international resources","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=425.0,506.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: whereas it was one time when I was undergrad here one of the top 10 programs in the country, by whose measure, I'm not sure, but that's what they said all and then at one point, accreditation was lodged in very little support for resources, faculty, wherever they could be taught home. Most of my partners were in herring Hall, where the very arboretum offices will be in herring Hall, but it's and then through, sorry, let's go back to the well, it was. There were a lot, there was a lot going on. There was an accredited undergraduate degree, a lot of interest. There were research money about what time was that probably about 7980 somewhere in there. And that was just the same for a while. But then some faculty left. Sabbaticals were not replaced. Faculty lines left the budget. I'm not real, and this wasn't really part of the faculty and the administration to know this sort of looking back is sort of the event took place. There was a fledgling master's degree that was not accredited, and there was not support to get it to that point, to provide the faculty, provide the resources, provide institutional support to. Only never did get accredited then, but then College of Architecture, new dean, late 90s, and we'll introduce, come on over here, and we'll make a college. We'll take planning for business, public administration, Kepler, and that came into being six by 1919. Eyes to school of renewable. Natural Resources still exist, but there are joint appointments by some faculty. But then now the master's degree is accredited. It was really accredited just last year, 2002 I guess, officially, for six more years, which is a good thing. That's as much credit as one can get at any one time. So that was that was encouraging new director. So we're seeing the program sort of reestablish itself. Made it through the proposed elimination earlier this year. And so it's as a degree, fairly firm","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=507.0,663.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: putting out, but within College of Architecture, yeah,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=664.0,667.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: correct, there's some drive on it, so you're right. Principally","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=668.0,674.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: there, I have to ask you about growing up 77 that was your second course, you talked about environment and what resources. What's the background","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=675.0,693.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: when I grew up right outside really large, two and a half acre lot was boarded on one side by an irrigation canal, one of the many canals of run through fiends distribute reservoir water from a whole series of dams along the Salt River. Several things basically lives on reservoir water, as well as some ground water. Well here Tucson, well, there's almost exclusive we're going to come to groundwater. Come to groundwater, mined water and there was given you look at the landscape. It's created about as sturdy and your system to drought conditions as you might want, although my education increases two seasons of rain, fairly dependable, summer, winter rain for our latitude, longitude. Placement of rain shadow with the coastal ranges that have left is a relatively unique situation for deserts around the world. Deserts tend to occur about this latitude, North End and south in the rain shadow of the Western of Western cultural ranges, but the fact that there are two rain cycles means it's a fairly lush desert compared to, say, the desert Africa, other regions of the world, that's when they may get picked into the rain over the course of a couple of months. It hasn't yet for the whole year, the plants are even more stressed to that regard. They say that Sonora desert is the richest diversity of flora of any region of water because of this demand on adapter radiation, the tree of glaciers, all that kind of stuff. So as it says, sensitivity to this unique sort of environment sort of ever sort of increasing the richness of it, the uniqueness of it, the fact that the only reason that their humans make it here, well, for a large part, is because of mine, groundwater zone, regional, Tucson, yes, at one time the Santa Cruz did flow almost year round. They have been people who inhabited this place for 5000 years continuously. So they made it on a river. But they were migratory people, I think the sort of environmental sensitive to the fragility of it and the richness of it was at the same time, and then the water issue were always sort of been part of my what I bring to the you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=694.0,843.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: see a growing growing up consciousness Environment and Water?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=844.0,858.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yeah, there was, I think, because right in that era was when the Department of Water Resources, the state of Arizona, Department of Water Resources as a manager of groundwater and civil areas around the state are considered active management areas Tucson, active management area around the watershed which creates this large bays, and principally the Santa Cruz river. And they were saying, Okay, this watershed can generate for this much and we've got to start cutting back the amount of water that we use for whatever lining agriculture, domestic uses, industrial use. This is whatever they might be. Yeah, I think probably right. Kind of when their first planned menu affected was 80 or 85 might have been 85 but they're working on a number of years prior to that. And so clearly they were saying, Look at Phoenix. They use too much water. And so there was a lot of starting just with basic homeowner, convert your grass front yard to a more native drawn landscape. Materials became available and weren't there. Couldn't go to an industry buy native shrubs, trees, those kind of So was it to the staff level? It was, can we retire high water use agriculture, cotton, cotton. Cotton uses a huge amount of water, but trying to grow rice makes sense in Louisiana, Florida doesn't make a lot of sense in two times. Can we retire land or mining of water behind the mines. Can we reclaim? Can we recycle water? So somewhere in there, began the plant out on Roger Road, where water collected, by then, by the county, brought to the city facility, cleaned and becomes what's called reclaimed water, tertiary, treated 333, days, practically potable, but not quite sewage water. Yes, yeah, it's all treated and is now enormous. Of most of the golf courses in the region are irrigated with that. The East 25 acres of campus and a lot of the interior part of campus or irrigated with that. That was something that was negotiated. There's a lot of emphasis, though, on how can we use run water if we stop mining so much groundwater? And is this a coffee operator or city actually? Well, it's sort of a shared because the county general collects water, brings it to the city, but then the city is the purveyor of clean water, but that was a newspaper that would slow the flow, beat the peak, all kinds of little phrases came out tucson water as part of this charge, any subdivision that was planted had to be able to guarantee 100 year water supply for residents somehow, either by Dealing with tucson water this low flow, fixtures, households, all kinds of sensitivity elevated. We're doing better than Phoenix. We're using less than Phoenix, pork reservoirs. So there became a real heightened sensitivity across the campus. The campus was charged with that. So every time they would remove a piece of grass from converted to some other use they got credit for, and there was a charge Department of Water Resources. Every so many years, we're keeping a ledger. We're keeping track of how much water you are not using by simply converting turf to ornamental church to other uses, to other landscapes. And a way you could say, Yes, we did. We did this thing, converting the West Campus from flood irrigated basin, which are still out there, to spray air. Irrigation, typically a lot of water every year. So in the community on the campus, the sensitivity increasing water is very precious. That was throughout that period, and that is not as much. There was a big, big awareness occurred back in that period. Get back later on to how is it now? 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Or, well, he's he's one. I come up with about three names when I think about but since you mentioned bill, I always appreciated his his picture. Thinking, the fact that what you do is, as a designer, is simply the materials you choose and where you place them, but the administration of that, the management of that, the planning, Why is this here in the first place thinking go to that broad both in terms of time and then the number of individuals involved in the whole notion of development, changing building for the purpose of people to be able to live, recreate whatever it is. 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Walter Rogers is currently a practitioner in town also, but he, at the time, was a studio professor, also taught history and theory and a very progression of the program the concept you don't do it hesitating or tentative way, strong, clear, memorable gestures and good for presentation, as well as how it winds up in your own knowledge of plant material, you've heard that input knowledge of plant material, but you know, also sort of, maybe sort of facility and site design. How is someone actually going to use this display? Any individual user things are the right size, the right scale, the right transitions from space to space using landfire connections. 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I was typically what's called a project coordinator, for a generic term, meaning, if it was determined that a modification to something had to happen, a new project came up, new facility, whatever. Then the staff of us, or about six of us in that role that might be, to be the university's coordinator of the project be involved in retaining a design consultant, maybe architect schedule. So the project gets through the system design, and then someone, a coral, a colleague, a corollary construction day. So then it's actually principally at that other minor roles, buildings, yes, yes. And a couple of few building projects. 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What do you mean? Um,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=1357.0,1361.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I guess what, what standpoint like, I guess it would be based on your education and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=1362.0,1368.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: that, okay, okay, not that all my projects were lacking for architectural by any meaning. But since I had some training attempt for, yeah, example, and accessibility issues to measure how circulation, later, circulation, pedestrian circulation, accessible, circulation. So make sure that whatever happened, I would review a project. I got a lot of opportunities to review the project that others and my colleagues were doing as the only way I could recommend time during the course of design projects coming from review, there's a set of plans, presentations, reviewing, and so my comments were often having to do With how it fits in context. We sort of try to bring that training, some of that sensitive to bear on those kind of things. 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Sometimes the budgetary challenge, sometimes the administration just generally feels that a large institution like this turn slowly turn, a lot of players involved, a lot of the administration make a change, because actually this wanting to get approval from those longer than a lot of users","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=1437.0,1471.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: hoped It would. And so there was always a schedule, project to keep each of them moving along and out again, probably physically, because schedule","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=1472.0,1490.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: back with approach. Maybe talk about approach. Maybe we can define it in two ways. One, what was the school's approach? We. Our approach to the project, I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=1491.0,1503.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: mean, more or less","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=1504.0,1505.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: the university's cross right, right this time","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=1506.0,1508.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: that was we have this large facility and needs to change, need to add a facility, need to modify a facility to meet the needs of the mission of the institution, research, teaching, community outreach mission, and that's what this thing. So we need you guys, this department, to help us do that. This classroom needs to be upgraded, because new teaching methods are are becoming available. Technologically advanced classroom furniture so students can collect we need to modify, need a new facility to teach a whole different kind of thing, or because our program is professor has achieved a new grant, we need to modify this laboratory support that this is all the kind of projects that we have. So from the institution standpoint, it was make these things happen so that we can continue to do what we're supposed to do as an institution. My standpoint is, okay. How does that fit in the context of the physical context of the institution? To Space, Marley building just south of herring Hall, huge building literally looked like it was sort of rolled in very, very close bullet. Is that the right? How do we do that? What does that do? Your circulation, to drainage, to all kinds of existing plant material, all kinds of different from the arboretum committee stand committee, everything is treasured, maybe is a native, various value of the material. So I tried to bring that place, it there. This circulation severely impacted during the course of construction, and afterwards, these plant materials salvaged and relocate those, for example. So that's Yeah,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=1509.0,1624.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: yeah, you talk about need, but need as a time time element? Yes, it does. Was it reactive? 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It appears that, based on national trends, and we will need to expand this type of facility, or law schools expand without five year 20 year planned, upgraded facilities add New whole new disciplines are arriving. So it's both a reactive, immediately and a much more proactive, five year plan, 6070, projects. No, most of mine were smaller projects. The capital plan, capital, in this case, refers to facilities of a million dollars or more. Were far fewer. They were larger. They took longer, but in terms of the quality of those, many, many, many, fewer than theirs of the smaller bunch of as you might have seen over the summer, if you were here, renovated residence halls, replacing the windows, refinishing, painting, new facilities within that's a far more common kind of project than a new facility. 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Kind of prevalent techniques or ideas behind the work you're doing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=1750.0,1767.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: My role is primarily a coordinator from terms of saying, design techniques, but we if I'd offer this, because the campus is surrounded by 10 neighborhoods, an active neighborhood, the project was ever toward the perimeter of the campus, even sometimes, there's always a outreach component to that, with public and. Uh, either to attend their regular Catholic Community Relations Committees. It's called regular monthly meetings, and that would be an agenda item, or have a special meeting with a particular neighborhood, or a couple of years to here's where we are with the project that was, that was a technique that was often used, and I used a lot, because, again, my projects tended","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=1768.0,1826.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: to be on the perimeter, not exclusively.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=1827.0,1830.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Varied a lot from very specific, well, what about this? To often very helpful and what have you thought about these kind of issues, whatever. How will that affect parking? Search, the circulation of people coming to the campus, leaving campus. How? So they'll be monitored. So then the circulation will this change circulation patterns within the campus that will impact the neighborhoods. The underpass is under Speedway, good example. And what you know, how will it impact the fabric of the campus, the campus, because of how it's grown and the communities run up around. So there's a lot of people community, who this is part of their their home, they really feel an attachment. So anything might modify something, even in the middle, there's a sensitivity to that connection. So they're a real making sure that those that you're a process involved with that or ask that question, is what we're doing, often, particularly in the when I first started, because it had been a period of the community not trusting the university, very much a sense of distrust, because they sense, on the Part of some people was that the university said one thing, and did that is this, when you were a student or been really working with it, when I first started working here, some of the stories not young, when we're trying to improve that University's image in relation to the city, county, other cities, as well as particularly in the community. Because there was a sense on the part of simple. You said you weren't going to do this, but now you did. So they trying to be as open with that process. Here's where, here's what we're planning on doing at Case in point, the South boundary the campus is ringed by a kind of a stair steps boundary called the campus planning boundary, and it was variously established over time, approved by the Board of Regents and this kind of thing. Well, that is either here or there to the local neighborhood sometimes. So for a long time, the boundary of the south border campus two blocks south of the street, Eighth Street, all the way from heart to Canada, one straight line. A lot of people live within that as they do on the north. So a process in the Start campus planning and city neighborhoods to redraw that line. So it was more in support of the university's mission sensitivities within the neighborhoods than what the city could support. So that was if there was a real sensitivity, a long winded answer, dear question. But I think that's a big part of whatever project, part of the methodology. Make sure you talk to a lot about the utilities on campus, public utilities, not all, but there. So there's a need to make sure that that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=1831.0,2018.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: interfaces. So, so would you say that was more or less a requirement of the work that you're doing, that that that was kind of set in place, that you should","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=2019.0,2025.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: the relatively new building, a parking six, three story building, Natural Resources Building, was a project that I coordinated, and you coordinated, and we talked the neighborhood many times during the course of that, which was beneficial. And I think it was, had we not it would have been problematic, right? So even if the result had been the same, that you're not involved along the way. 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Haven't done so there was there was seemingly misinformation. Your approach to harbor effort,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=2069.0,2105.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Libby asked","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=2106.0,2109.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: me to be on the advisory committee because she knew of my association. And until recently, and probably there's still a huge emphasis on the conservation of the planetary the largest at the preservation that the significance of the flora on the campus is enormous and passes all the tests from a national standpoint, that that it should be considered to be considered to be an arboretum. Now, there are those who say, Where's the trail? Where do I start? Where do I go? And it's time to now enter the Arboretum. Here's your walking tour. It isn't really that, no, it's an institution. It's a public university that has this arboretum role, if you will, to play now. And so it elevates the value of the significant plant material, principally. And that's something that means, like, oh, that big cherissa Over there, and a couple of other, you know, the babat tree over by the administration building. They say maybe you only want an electric hemisphere. You know, there's some very, very unique plant material, large species.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=2110.0,2183.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: But there's also collections of some tree sun was in the Garden City back in 20 so there are now. So a lot of the trees are gone now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=2184.0,2201.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: You analysis part of that there's some tradition, the Old Olive Tree along North drive olive Road, west part of campus. They're now significantly over 100 years, not uncommon for an olive tree, but pretty uncommon too, though. So there's significance to the campus in a lot of regards the old probably, where are the sensitivities of the Bucha trees the island mall and how old they are? Sensitivity to them with the alumni closet project? Because, probably because of the, yeah, the general floor of the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=2202.0,2251.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: campus. I know you already addressed this kind of in pieces, but we were wondering, what projects did you work on, and how did they link to the UA campus,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=2252.0,2262.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: there were a whole range of things. They were from. As I said, part one of my projects, two or three of them were improving accessibility to buildings, to classrooms, to bathrooms. And the question might be, Wayman training is not architecture, okay? But as a project coordinator, that didn't matter, there's a project. Do it acceptable? Yeah, let's charge you, although, from little things like like that, sometimes they were adjunct projects when the library went into medical campus at the end of Warren Avenue. Work on Warren Avenue basically was built in Warren and Warren Avenue, because traffic was going to be impacted, we have to build a ring road around the campus, around that part the campus loop, kind of like around the wall. So that was a project that I had that I worked on, the modified, slight modification of the circulation between Yavapai and SCR family consumers of the building. That's a wide tidewalk and a bike lane, a little tiny piece of a project that I worked on because the impact of the Marley building to source circulation all the way up to large facilities. The softball facility that I mentioned, the new building relatively new at Park and sick. I'm sorry. The gist of your question was the type of projects,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=2263.0,2346.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: yeah, and how did they link to the UI team?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=2347.0,2348.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: So they the campus had a comprehensive campus plan initially prepared 1988 and has now been updated just as a donor this year. And so when a new facility or modification, principally, those new facilities are proposed, how do they fit in the campus plan? So, for example, that new facility down in park at six was somewhat restricted in Princeton, how big it could be, how tall it could be if it be, those kind of as it is in the community and in the larger part of the campus, also, to some extent, there's a campus kind of grew in terms of sort of discipline clusters, where the natural sciences were the biological sciences, where professional schools of. General Education, how it has grown as in terms of how people move, Student Union is considered the center it is in so many respects. And how far is five minutes from the Student Union? How far is 10 minutes walk? There's 10 minutes between classes? Well, how far is it reasonable to get someone to walk, ride, a bicycle, etc, between classes. So there was a sentence for the classroom building. It should be closer, in case, not that more of a research building should be a little bit further out. So those kinds of fitting it into the campus plan. How does it affect circulation? How does this new building have large vehicles associated with parking lot. Parking structures are part of the campus. So how do they fit in terms of city streets fitting into the campus plan from all those perspectives, important, and then, of course, the trying not to disturb climate change. So including the algorithm","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=2349.0,2462.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: charts, even as you mentioned and in your work, a lot the idea of circulation and accessibility. How do those factors affect the landscape on campus? Trying","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=2463.0,2474.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: to Well, I think with nearly 50,000 people on campus most days. That's a lot of foot traffic, a lot of movement of people in the first place. And accommodating that means that's a small city. It's a sizable city means really relatively larger circulation corridors and a whole range of scale circulation, many modes service. You can look out there and see service vehicles had to get into the campus, full time pickup trucks, as well as golf carts, bicycles, pedestrians, because Tucson climate is so conducive to being outdoors, so much of time, not a lot of rain. Most days are stunning, not very cold in the winter, even though it's warm in the summer. It's it's population of people who use wheelchair, other assistive devices, like like that, is fairly high compared to a lot of campus. So there's the centers of Disability Resource Center campus particularly support those people with those kind of needs. But circulation is getting from here to there key. So that's certain guidelines.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=2475.0,2555.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I think then linking out into the community. A lot of people to get to campus are bicycle community, about 9000 parking places and bicycles on campus, which could, for the size of the community, be easily imagined to double. It could be that much compared to the University of California, Davis, for example, other campuses could be twice that no problem, no problem at all, most of the occupants of the neighborhoods to the south are renters, 85% very high percentage, somewhat, somewhat less to the west and even after East. But a lot of that and not a lot of housing on campus, although that increases those as well as I said, it's a fairly spread out campuses, New York University close to that. So there's whereas the setting the campus is desirable, not building ball crunch together in the space, but when you start setting things apart, then the time it takes to get them together there, and so allowing for that to happen efficiently. And, you know, people cut through places too, so there can be a significant impact on the landscape if you don't support the circle facilitated,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=2556.0,2634.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: we got a little background on the history of the campus from Libby, and she mentioned the movement of the cactus garden from front of Old Main to behind, and then those areas were changed in the salon. So more or less that wasn't as a result of different reasons, but also having to deal with the circulation, accessibility,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867#t=2635.0,2659.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243867/transcript/68350/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: more growth of the campus, if you look at Phyllis balls, and you can see from those kind of little map that she has in there, how the campus has really grown from this simple facilities, herring Hall, post war and all these 60s, 50s, building each other. And I think that probably was the greatest pressure. Was a turf on there. It's just like a beach someplace. People, some come back east to Sun almost every day, instead. Look at that. I mean, there's an old photograph of herring Hall, Old Main with creosote by itself. I was a little nowhere in 1885 I guess that's when the camp was started. Was actually where's that? Well, a couple of creosote may be that old and they may be original. A lot of this stuff was introduced around only the whole panel was, was that at a time when that was not quite a classroom, even further down the circle of what we've seen before that. So I think that the fact that there are risk amendments now relics practically a more accurate term. Part of the development of the campus as a public place, with lots of people who are leaving that environment the University of Arizona, first and foremost, you know, trust Arboretum. How was it being managed? Now, back then, there wasn't a lot of material, much the same failure, but it wasn't given standing still is when someone shows up on campus. 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Maybe we can create that here as almost like a demonstration that there was no management before. Well, there was, there was sort of caretaking on the part of facilities management, the grounds and Labor Department, certainly to you know, care for seeded irrigation of disease, pest control, those kind of things, but not as an arboretum, but more like no, that's part of the grounds of campus. And then projects would come along the desert legume project, which I think is still ongoing in department plant sciences, as because legumes, peas, enormous family around the globe. And there are arid regional peas and many calibers all those kind of mesquite region would bring plants from other area regions, and there, so there's some unusual plant material in Aberdeen campus. And Jones would bring the things from wherever to see your things. I think he brought the man that tree. I'm not mistaken those there was a sensitivity on the harder grounds and labor on the campus, knowledge of those things that's supportive, to sustain them. And they would cultivate and kill the turf areas to make sure they were looked good, make sure everything was irrigated. But it was a, it was a just as onto the campus, not so much as not the scientific and research conservation with","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1.0,99.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: that designation as that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=100.0,102.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: dedication. Since you're a student on campus wondering if you could give maybe a perspective of a student's perspective, maybe that you held yourself or other students held of the campus landscape then or now, just any perceptions that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=103.0,122.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: well, it depends on the student. I remember we were involved in about 1990","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=123.0,133.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: when the exercises was a cognitive mammoth, and asking students and anybody else draw a map of the camp. How do you perceive those things? Covers New York Magazine and a lot of what's important, what's valuable, see depending on for the student, was from a lot of value attached to wide open areas of flop on the ground, because I can't do that in Ohio in November, not even, of course, it is completely different kind of thing. And the fascination with Choi is in the Saguaro kind of thing. But if you were somebody from here, a lot of times it was, I want more shade, more shade, and don't forget to put more shade often. That was shade trees, and it was how come? I mean, when the Integrated Learning Center underground building was developed, I mean, look at the site, lack of shade trees is one of the things just blatantly recognizes where's the shade my supervisor when I was in, you know, it would be great. I would love to be able to if I choose to walk around campus on a shaded walk or not, but I want the choice. And he said, I why trees grow? Why don't we have shaded walks all over campuses? There are probably in the minds a lot of people special places that they hate when they are very memorable. I heard it said, Leave an institution. Remember your class. Professors were involved, but you always have strong memories of the place. Come back? Oh, yeah, it was right over there. Where that guy it's kind of a home turf sense to a lot of students. So that little grove of a little double row of citrus drinks between is something that, if it's discovered by somebody, wow, look at this. It's a real special little place. More, it's hard to say what it might be, but when you get really working on the update of the campus plan, ask where are your favorite places for your least favorite places? And they would find the courtyard and Eagle shades in there, special place, usually this point around here, with this in this building set in the most we've done these traditional territorial architecture, but it is very, very, very, very successful. You can get shading. Can you want? That's not the case all over a lot of the 60 buildings the box, no transitions. I probably had a whole range of perceptions, all the way to I love being in heat and sound. Probably, I think most people would have some special places, depending","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=134.0,313.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: on maybe a few. Olivia wanted us to have everyone if they plant any trees on campus you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=314.0,321.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: ever planted? Physically planted the trees?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=322.0,323.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yeah, I guess that she wants, she's interested in, you know, where these trees came from and planted them?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=324.0,331.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, there were trees planted as part of my project. Any trees? So in sense? Yes, in fact, there were trees. We facilitate trees for Tucson, was a program neighborhoods would apply to plant trees, donated trees for a few bucks, but you you got a plan to care for and so near push to the south particularly, hey, but will you University help us with this? So a couple little projects that we get to put the soil back for Lisa. So it was a simple shovel up a couple people could plant a tree and an hour. So a lot of trees were planted that one that way. But I know that I ever dug a hole your roles. And even role. Trees are here because of projects that I did, probably some trees remained here. Here's one, the olive underpass with the first of the tree underpasses. It was lined with all trees, as you might imagine. Professor for planted up in salvaged them in boxes and were sitting just kind of wherever they could put them. Well, they built the underpass and parking structure, and when I got here, they've been out of the ground for a couple of years. They were still alive, and they weren't doing well. We had to find someplace to put so those got put in next to the parking structure on the northwest. So some trees probably even got conserved and replanted through some of my efforts. A huge pine tree that's over by the Warren Avenue underpass used to be in front of a computer building on Speedway, but when they wiped the Speedway, it couldn't stay that was a huge salvage effort the city was involved in, the university coordinated to move that to that trade. So probably, I could arguably say yes,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=332.0,455.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: not, not so many, not, maybe as many as could have been. It's an expensive problem per proposition, and can if it's a very unique species, premature with the park Student Union expansion, we found a particular plant tree that we wanted to salvage. So the project budget includes, so it'll be brought back to the project from wherever it's being held. So not a lot try to work around to the extent possible. Occasionally they get lost, unfortunate because there aren't as many cases in this campus, certainly not as many as there are. I think of it as being a shade and tree flight. We got to fly over to helicopter to take photographs for campus planning project, and where are all the trees? How come I'm not seeing this lush, treed campus that I'm in my mind tells me there are lots of gaps, lots of that's okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=456.0,526.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: For example, leaves of palm trees and other trees that don't really provide much shape.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=527.0,531.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I don't care about them for that reason. It's a telephone pole. Is that kind of almost cultural anomaly, but they are Assange to a lot of people that come from the east, and they","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=532.0,552.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: were mesmerized by palm trees. And there's some calls along the Mall. Are part of the bloodline the mall, part of the ambition of mechanical things. So ambition, but they don't really offer much at all. 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Yardstick maybe should be landscape making U of A unique,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=625.0,646.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: beautiful softball facility, but it's not, doesn't contribute that much of a landscape.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=647.0,655.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: The work that you're most proud of,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=656.0,659.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: barber heart center plaza. It's one that we did. I didn't that was one of the design that wasn't what I was here as coordinator, the one that was done as a consultant area, and basically on top of other building center Courtney, associated with","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=660.0,683.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: in terms of systems, some","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=684.0,688.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: innovation in terms of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=689.0,690.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: like the landscape.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=691.0,694.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Innovation trying to use less common species, trying to use principally trees with other species too, more for their design function than as object. I guess by that, a lot of times I think plants are planted with a lot of space around them because they're significant, or they'll stay wind up with a lot of space. I think the idea of planetary forming, the function shape walk, the trees, are probably going to be closer together, and that's fine. A lot of examples of that, campuses, a lot of photograms. Large species, relatively close together, because you get a continuous shaded candidate. It's a little different than there's lots of schools about how do you plan? What do you plan? There's probably innovation, maybe a little planting for design, function, very incompetent. 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But modifications made, and it will be more of the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=786.0,805.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: made. It's been used to the malls, and it should be further back of the mall, or closer to the mall, some way, the lack of appropriate landscape development around that materials there that were planted and now or not, because they just didn't survive. It sort of has the way this building has a recessed porch, and the way in the library has married the recess. There's a very important relationship of that ratio and how much they are consented to that building because it's round central drum. It's almost too deep, it gets almost too dark. And then this, this because these columns of metal is small, probably 12 inches square. They don't obstruct sight lines in that building. Those are problematic, but they're big, heavy columns and air ducts and the elevators and the stereotypes, and to create this not a very pleasant walking experience through there, I don't think it fits well in terms of how it deals with the change of grade wall down to South County Drive, which is significant to eight or 10 feet. So I would say it's less than Success Project. I mean, I was not one. I coordinated knowledge. It depends on who you who you talk to him. They probably are those who like to. Actually, it's deeply shamed, because they, they have, you know, taken to putting cables like this on the outside of it. There's some proximity of the law, because people tend to move a little further toward the malls. It back underneath. And so it's been made to be more successful and sort of, in spite of itself, a little bit, I think. But depending on who you talk to is not","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=806.0,921.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: as successful it could be. And there are other others, I think the Integrated Learning Center had, they should have brought the trees back. Those were those were lost. So now again, look at the distance between trees, hundreds of any direction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=922.0,941.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: The final year you worked for human","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=942.0,945.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: and from that time till now, have you noticed any changes with the way in the landscape, hug being run, or","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=946.0,956.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: there were some changes of staff in facilities. Name that were, I thought beneficial, but those have been changed again in terms of the towards modernizing, for example, irrigation, a lot of the irrigation on the campus is sold by manually. In other words, someone has to go turn on a bow or turn on a valve or turn on a hook. Track record that's a huge consumer of time and effort that really, if we're automated, we wouldn't have to be doing anyway. They ought to be automated, because then we can be better monitors of how much water is actually applied. Water being the precious resource that it is there. And there were interest in going that way, moving that way. I'm not sure where they'll stand right","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=957.0,1006.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: now, while you were here, there,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1007.0,1009.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: after further period afterwards, you know, we think it was for the time I was here, and for the couple years afterwards, it was status quo. Now we've been doing it. It works. We're used to it. We're going to do this, and then, with a Change of Hands, we could be doing this more efficiently, more effectively. And other priorities than simply maintaining the status quo. Arboretum priority coming on. The Arboretum was first discussed back in the 80s. Probably it didn't come to fruition earlier this year there was, you know, 15 years, at the least, in the nation. And actually coming, probably the appearance of the campus hasn't changed a lot. A lot of plants are still here. There. Many of them may be in better condition, although it's interesting, some of them have been lost. For one reason, under a new facility age between Douglas and they were lost, because even though it was inefficient, the amount of water being put down for the flood irrigation historic system was keeping them alive, and they weren't getting enough water after that was converted to spray irrigation distributor, but it was, I think it's going","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1010.0,1087.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: the better. The issue of color, a color in terms of the landscape, trees and plants.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1088.0,1095.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: What's your comment? There could be more. There a lot of a lot of potential for flowering plants, just about year round color in Tucson and without a lot of effort, like that large green tree over there, kind of densely Foley will never follow. The CAPS is here olive trees. Pollen is allergenic. Not a great secret flower on that, but there could be lots of colors some of the gardens the moody is Margaret Williams has been involved with the lowland next to Nugent, and there's one on the south side by SCR south of the Campus Drive, very colorful, which much more campus. A lot of it grew up when the rest of the community was planting privet hedges, planting olive tree, citrus trees. So those are here too, part of the pallet that was being used as a research institution demonstrating arid lands. You probably ought to be more than toward those materials and away from","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1096.0,1177.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: imports. It has been for me, yeah, I always like to see more potential. Is great. A lot of colorful plants are insect colony, part of the flower, and since a lot of things are calling the plants here one of the when we were doing the campus planning, careful with the notion of academic. That grows texture. We thought it was a lot of the form of small was California stay trained, and in the spring to a few weeks there in margin. And in April, it's just yellow, like boulevards for the south of 20/22, street, both sides in the median are just yelling. It's very striking for a short time. So that's something everybody kind of waits for over generation. There are those who have you been down Quino recently? It's all in bloom. The Tohono Phil Park, they keep track of night blooming plants when they're at their peak. You can go to the website and find out when that is, and go out there does even see the night class. 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A lot of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1262.0,1269.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: respect, but I would get support from my supervisor. Is there anybody that he moved on a different institution after two or two years, but his sort of, how can we have more shade trees? So there was support from various quarters, some to some extent, in the grounds department, but a lot of that group, or the senior people in there were more, let's keep it the way, but they would say, mentors. No, not relevant, which is kind of too bad.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1270.0,1305.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Anyway. More questions. What do you think of the current direction of the landscaping on campus? Do you have any critiques the way it's going? I think","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1306.0,1321.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: so. I think hopefully it will continue that way for the horticulture, actual care of the material. But then the emphasis toward adding to the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1322.0,1340.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: campuses, there are those who are things like we need any more. That's a good it's part of that direction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1341.0,1352.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: How do you feel the thinking in your field, landscape architecture has changed or know the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1353.0,1365.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: work you've been doing,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1366.0,1369.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: along with the Community, greater awareness of water. Again, there were always greater sensitivity to circulation, a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1370.0,1384.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: little bit more. What you mean by greater sensitivity","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1385.0,1388.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: to circulation? Oh, there's a circulation issues I was talking about earlier, the more of awareness. I think that Neptune's are not an alternative mode, it's the car, pedestrian, circular walking is a fundamental mode of certain circulation, and then bicycles of that. And yet, cars, I think, a thinking within departments of transportation and cars, that's the primary mode. Everything else is alternative transit, pedestrians and everything else, so that, I think there's more of a sensitivity to that if the roadway is going to be a project that you're going to work on with engineers, want to make sure that there's a school that it's safe for kids to get their family to the left as an afterthought, not going to happen. I mean, the fact that most major arterial streets in Tucson are a lot of them have bike loops on part of the roof. It's kind of unusual. You don't find that. You don't find that a lot. So there's sort of thinking, Oh, that's important. We don't provide for it, and they're not going to there's no place to be safe. We're not going to have pressure. How come we don't have more bison? We don't have facilities for biceps, three components of that, the engineering, the education, enforcement, you've got to be able to have all three of those system like that to work heightened awareness of that, probably the cinder Conservation Plan The county is sort of a heightened sensitivity to the whole region,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1389.0,1494.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: and more recently, more definitely, into the. Immediate area, what you're doing is an object in and in and of itself, or a unique thing that showed up fitting into the system, the fabric always respectful of that. Moment. Okay, he was for 40 years or more, the head basically had the same position, and so he was responsible for the management and maintenance of the grounds of the campus, and saw huge if you saw huge chocolate shock and full of stories because he was here. And before 1968 when there was no mall, he's a charity. And now the mall got extended from Charity Campbell in the late 60s. And tell you about those guys. He's seen a huge number of changes, many, many, many buildings come off. It was, it was a pretty working relationship. I mean, chuck a little bit, here's how we're going to do it. Did you want it blur? Did you want it red or not? Those kind of things. But he was always I felt like I could work with him, but he kind of felt like he kind of owned this place he was responsible for. If there was a concern on the part of being director administrator, they would call chuck this person. What about the zoning fund? How come this? You felt he had to be responding to that. This is a senior person. So he would, he would, because he sort of felt he was elevated to that position. This was his place in Edge, and I was sort of helping with Alder was to respect. I fond of Chuck that I wish he was. He was more a part of that forward thinking, planning, where are we going, not just sustaining trying to manage this resources the way it is, rather than,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1495.0,1628.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: what could this place?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1629.0,1632.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, I probably learned more. So that's how they're doing it. I understand now, but not necessarily, not so much adopting his attitude, incorporating him, but to, from his point of view, develop my own point of view. I didn't code coincide at all. And okay, I see so this way, well, I probably ought to be going to sort of work within his system, because he said no, pretty much that was supported by the senior administration. So whatever we tried to do, we tried to fit it or or make sure he was part of that. All we want to do this thing, you know, we talked about this new project that's changed over here. Is that something that you guys work on, and there was a sensitivity to that to work in leadership, probably more than anything, helped me clarify my own point of view, building these attitudes, not that I didn't adopt it by any means.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1633.0,1698.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Did you have anyone else that you think would be good to interview. You have a recommendation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1699.0,1706.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: You got Warren, of course, you got Chuck, and probably everybody else","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1707.0,1715.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: in that regard, senior people playing. That regard, senior people, Plant Sciences,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1716.0,1729.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I guess you might get quite kind to get a hold of him as a real character, Billy Joe Barney, have you heard that he was a senior administrator for a long time, a real character and part of the part of the arbor Arboretum, and refund of Chuck and all that kind of stuff. So these are just for as a personality to add here to your","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1730.0,1760.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: collection. Here, some of the other members of the arboretum community who are community members who some of that was amazed. Many people are 6070, years old or older, 80 years old, and they grew up across the street, so they've been on the campus longer than almost anybody around I walked over here when I was six years old, my grand father would buy an ice cream cone. Those kind of stories you were hearing, and those would be names I can't remember you get from this. Those would be really interesting people talked about because of their or, you know, any other sort of alums you. You can talk to my father in law, who's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1761.0,1806.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: a student here. Jim","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1807.0,1811.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Heath is a landship architect, but he was, he and my mother in law were students here. Talk to us. She's got very strong opinions today. They were students here in the 50s, early 50s. Thanks for late 40s, late 40s. And now he's a lantern. So that would be, I got a good look at her, Libby. She's on the Aubrey committee, so he,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1812.0,1838.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: nobody else comes,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1839.0,1850.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: your projects. Most of our projects are public works projects. We work lots with really a lot of university work, but also departments of transportation, parks and recreation, for city, county, state. So most of our work is in the public sector. In that regard, whether it's roadways or consulting, we work a lot with architects and engineers, both as consultants to them and they ask consultants to us. So how old is it for? 21 years and you founded it? No, my wife founded it. We're partners, basically working with her. Then I came to the university. Now I'm back. Yeah, that's a good description.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1851.0,1905.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: This, this one someone can pick up, but we","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1906.0,1909.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: would need the yellow one. Okay, so, right, okay,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1910.0,1913.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: but this one,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1914.0,1915.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: ladies RAS can pick it up. Okay, okay,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1916.0,1921.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: or I could drop in Canvas mail to somebody or whatever, because I'm on campus every days or whatever, to probably","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1922.0,1930.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: the business office. Okay, if you don't mind. How's that landscape architect","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1931.0,1937.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: for industry or sector doing here? I think it's doing well. There was probably a little bit of a lull with a lot of other things. It kind of took a little bit of a dip in the last couple of years, but our workload has pretty much been sustained. There was everybody was very busy a couple of year and a half, two years ago, looking to hire a lot of people. Were a lot of people were a lot of students were coming out, getting job offers for three or four firms. And there's a very different situation now. But I think most folks in the future looks pretty good. I think, yeah, the landfill architecture getting other solar areas more part of early on engineering and architecture projects typically led by engineers and architects. I think probably there's an increasing role of landscape architects earlier projects in planning. It's also landscape architects and administrative positions agencies like, kind of like, what I was","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=1938.0,2005.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: doing, I have a last question again. There's a question here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=2006.0,2008.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Would you like to comment on it","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=2009.0,2010.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: and what needs to be done? Or did you decide, I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=2011.0,2016.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: think is, there was another one that had. I think this a newer one, newer I think, I think so, yeah, like a graphically simple there isn't, it isn't over overwhelmed with text and it includes lots of color photographs. It wouldn't be appealing to a lot of people. That doesn't it is intimidating, scientifically, and you can read a little bit, or read a read a lot, for the photographer, and I think the fact that it gives it the context,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=2017.0,2057.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: folder, the mail, it website, and there's even some notion that you can be so there's a bit of a pitch there subtly that isn't tennis. Check. This is about the arboretum, by the way. This is important to you as an alum. You could supporting it, encouraging it, nice, colorful. You just color here. Yeah. You just color here. But generally I this appeals to me. It's simple, simple layout, plenty of photographs, but. People","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=2058.0,2105.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: who referred to him, several of these were","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=2106.0,2111.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: to get some more information about the history of the landscape, if you have any other dips on it, that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=2112.0,2118.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: type of I would go to the special collections in the library and Historical Society, the Historical Society, and then special collections in the living in the library. When I was early in my employment here, I was interested in the because I was asked by a VP about the olive trees and all the road and going into special collections, the library was pretty quick to find when they were planted by whom, various things in there, too. So there's lots about that, how the canvas grew, but starting with Phil is also going to going from there, more about this period,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=2119.0,2155.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: what weather, the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=2156.0,2156.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: gap here five years, and then going to this or today. What do you got between 19? So they might have the same, almost the same collection. Thanks. I think we're done.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=2157.0,2176.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839/transcript/68351/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay. We ended the interview at 10 to 12, and we started at 10am so thank you very much. Mr sharp. Date was September 10, 2003 this is a Wednesday. You.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130444/file/243839#t=2177.0,2179.0"}]}]}]}