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CPJ. CPJ is an independent nonprofit organization that promotes press freedom worldwide. Offensive writers journalists to report the news will fear reprisal and ensures free flow of information and commentary by taking action whenever journalists are attacked, impression killed, kidnapped, threatened, censored or harassed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1.0,39.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Great, thank you. I'm just gonna ask a few demographics questions for research purposes. And then we'll get right into the questions. Basically, the number of years that you've been involved with the Committee to Protect Journalists?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=40.0,54.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yeah, I've been working for CPJ since November 2000, in 2002,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=55.0,59.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: program coordinator","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=60.0,62.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: for the Americas. And","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=63.0,64.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: have you worked as a journalist before? Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=65.0,68.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: A journalist, professional journalists for more than 25 years. And I came to the US in 1994. And I worked from 1994 to 2002, as the US Bureau Chief Correspondent for the largest mass imposing company in Argentina called the TODO EL perfil. working mainly for the newsmagazine. Noticias which is one of the largest mishmash in Spanish in Latin America.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=69.0,106.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Great, great. Thank you. And are you working as a journalist now? In addition to your your current work?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=107.0,114.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Right, well, I write on press freedom issues regularly for for publications in Latin America, and the the US and in Europe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=115.0,129.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: It's great. Wondering regarding education, what is your educational background?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=130.0,135.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I studied journalism. And cathodic in cathodic, universe University in one side is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=136.0,148.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: great, and you're in that was Did you get a bachelor's there? And yes, yes, bachelor's in journalism. And the final demographics question. Two questions are one, your location or you're based in New York.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=149.0,162.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: BJ PJ's headquarters is in New York","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=163.0,166.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: and your age? 4848. Okay. Can you just starting a bit with some of the questions? Could you speak a bit about the mission of your organization in Mexico?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=167.0,181.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Right? Well, the mission in Mexico is the same mission CPJ place around the world. And as I said before, CPJ promotes freedom of press, and defends the rights of journalists to report the news without fear of reprisal. We ensure the free flow of information by taking action where wherever journalists are killed, attacked, imprisoned for the work, kidnapped, death and censored are harassed. Hundreds of journalists are killed, imprisoned and intimidated or threatened every for more than 30 years. CPJ has been there to defend the rights to report the news worldwide. And that's the same in Mexico. Why do we protect journalists think journalism plays a very important role in the balance of power between the government and its people. And when when a country's journalists are silenced, as it is the case in Mexico are censored, are killed with impunity, as it is a case in in. In Mexico. The people of this country are silent. So by protecting journalists, CPJ protects freedom of expression. The right of oppression, access to information and democracy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=182.0,291.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Thank you. How did you if you could tell me a little bit about how you got involved with with the work within the Oregon nation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=292.0,300.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: But well. In fact, I first heard of CPJ, long before I started working for the organization. I was a correspondent, bureau chief correspondent for the largest news magazine","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=301.0,320.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: in Spanish in Latin America called Noticias magazine that belongs to a company called the Toyota field. And in February of 1997, photographer the work for the magazine was brutally murdered in one side, it's Argentina","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=321.0,341.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: and taking photos, one of Argentina's most controversial business tycoons. And someone that that, you know, before photographer taking photos of him was, was very mysterious and low profile business.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=342.0,371.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: investigations by the Miocene revealed that this in fact, had obscure business dealings with the Argentine state and, you know, the fact that MTCs investigating him, you know, put him in the spotlight. And basically, that's, that was the reason why he was murdered, according to judicial investigation by the Argentine judiciary, later discovered discover that it was people that work for security for this business, they can call the who, in fact, killed Theresa was shot in his has burned in his car","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=372.0,428.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: and left in the car, you know, in the restaurant city of I was working for Noticias when this happened. And, you know, I was working in New York and immediately contacted CPJ and efforts by you know, international press freedom organizations like CPJ.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=429.0,464.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: You know, and by civil society, and by the press in Argentina force, the Argentine authorities to conduct a thorough investigation. And it was one of the few cases in which, you know, Justice you know, work in terms of finding both the identifying both the murders, and mastermind of this office. So, this was 1997, you know, was my first interaction with CPJ. And, you know, and since then I have been following the work and, you know, and to seltenen to, you know, I was offered to be the coordinator for the Americas program, and that's how I started working for the organization.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=465.0,531.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Thank you. Thank you. If you could tell me a little bit about the sorts of support or work that the organization and you specifically, and the organization offered journalists in Mexico","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=532.0,549.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, the first thing that we have done in Mexico is, you know, rigorously and and very thorough documentation of press freedom abuses, starting from, you know, most obvious cases of murders, disappearances, and obviously, attacks that journalists are seeking to leave the country because of pattern intimidation. So the first the first step for us is to thoroughly document the state of press freedom by taking Keep taking up cases of journalists killed, disappear, attacked, threatened, censored or imprisoned. You know, we have brought by by document is cases we have brought the plight of Mexican journalists to the public and trying what we have tried to do is, publicize this attacks and urged authorities to provide protection for journalists. And that's the first step. You know, we have also worked on on different special reports that highlight the situation of Mexican journalists with recommendations that goes to the recommendations that go to Mexican, the Mexican government commendations that go to the international community that goes to the Organization of American States, the Special Rapporteur for special United Nations and the Oh, yes, this is organizational values. And to the US government and the UN Human Rights Council. In terms of, you know, specific support for Mexican journalists, we have, you know, offered advice for journalists that have sought political asylum in different countries, we have, you know, provided financial also assistance for giants that have needed to relocate due to threats and intimidation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=550.0,731.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: We have, you know, obviously, you know, talk to many people and offered advice, you know, on those situations where, where journalists have been, you know, that no one wanted to keep their cases confidential. We have","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=732.0,764.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: engaged in productive dialogue with Mexican authorities and the Mexican government. The administration's President Vicente Fox was incumbent on and now the administration of Pena","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=765.0,785.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Nieto, in order to find ways that will allow the mix Mexican journalists to to be able to work without fear of intimidation and threat. And, you know, we supported efforts to you know, to create a special prosecutor's office and investigate cases against freedom of expression. We have supported efforts you know, to to for a bill that have given federal authorities Brawley jurisdiction to investigate press, crimes and expression of cases. And I think that you know, broad scope of things that we have been working on, since the situation has deteriorated in the last decade.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=786.0,877.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Thank you. With respect to some of the legislative efforts, was the organization involved with some of the advances made toward the constitutional amendment that seeks to protect journalists and human rights defenders, right. Yes, that too. Great, thank you, let's see, sort of been tying in with what you just said. And you really mentioned this in so many different ways. But just maybe to ask just just a little more. So in the organization's efforts to collaborate with, or not collaborate button to assist and support, offer support to journalists, in interacting with government officials and transnational or international organizations like OAS and UN, basically, is this through dialogue or through through correspondence or how we're trying to tie together, you know, what, how some of these efforts come about and how they materialize?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=878.0,950.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: It's basically through dialogue, conversations and meetings. And, you know, we're sharing documents and research and you know, but basically, you know, has been through dialogues, you know, Bisset meetings. That's, that's basically","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=951.0,975.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: does the organization in meeting say, for example, with government? Do does the organization go with other organizations? Or does it or a lot of these meetings, one on one, and then eventually,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=976.0,989.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: a mix of things, meetings, one on one meetings with other groups meeting with local journalists, you know, everything. In order to advance this, you know, this measures and, you know, the main thing, our main purpose is that the journalists in Mexico would be able to report the news, without fear of that intimidation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=990.0,1016.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Sure, sure. So so some of the the measures that materialize, say on the government side, are they usually do they usually begin once once the organization or organizations, or have had dialogue and interacted and so forth? Do those measures usually materialize by individual or groups of legislators or public administrators acting on those meetings? Or is that how that works? Or?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1017.0,1054.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I'm not sure I totally understand the question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1055.0,1060.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Absolutely. So thinking about, for example, the legislation that was adopted, or the constitutional amendment in Mexico was just two very large examples. So my it seems, it seems that there were, you know, organizations, including yours that was involved with discussions and conversations, but from there, you know, either the politicians or individual administrators within government say, within certain offices of government need to take action for any of these things to happen. Yeah, exactly. So that is what happens, the conversations, and then the government takes it from there basically, with","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1061.0,1106.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yes, yes, yes, of course, they have. They have, you know, their own proposals. And, you know, we are trying from our perspective, and from our experience around the world, to offer, you know, advice and, you know, without interfering at all, in internal affairs, it's, it's as third job legislators, as officials to, you know, to figure out what, what is what would be the best way to deal with this, right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1107.0,1139.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: We are just, you know, willing to contribute, you know, in order to, to, with our experience, and and, basically, with our experience, you know, around the world on this, this, this issue,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1140.0,1165.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: before we leave that sort of global perspective, I just wanted to ask, from your perspective with your organization, and just seeing how things work around the world. Is this basically, how networks connect in with around these issues in other countries as well?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1166.0,1184.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I mean, yes, I think is the way to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1185.0,1188.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: say it. A lot of the same players. Yeah. Okay. Then, just wanted to ask you've hit on this a bit. What have been some of the factors that have led your organization Since work, your more most recent intense work in Mexico, in you know, specifically if there's been anything along the border, but you mentioned the last 10 years I, you know, so I, you know, this would have been the middle of the sense eight Boxes, boxes 10 years ago, I guess would be 2003 any cattle catalytic moments or major watershed issues that came up that cause, you know, the intensity of the work?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1189.0,1235.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I think that, you know, the deployment of military personnel and federal police to combat drug trafficking brought a lot of, you know, according to security, and law enforcement experts in fight between, you know, the cartels, and between cartels and law enforcement, and that, you know, produce a spike in the, in the number of killings. And I think that that spike in the number of killings, increased risks for journalists. And, you know, we we have found that, you know, that, that created a new layer of complexity for the, for the situation journalists in Mexico. And, you know, situation has worsened, since worsened since that period and become really dramatic. For the Mexican press.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1236.0,1304.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: We've had a few people mentioned to us that, you know, oh, you know, aren't you know, if you look at the sort of the trend in the number of journalists killed or disappeared in Mexico, you know, how it has gone up, unless you were saying in the recent period? And and asking, you know, is it is that a reflection of the increase number of deaths of Mexican citizens in general? And, you know, you just mentioned something somewhat related to that. I wondered if you if you have any idea of that, or did you know, did many journalists feel like they are increasingly targeted? I don't know if, if that's discernible from from your work?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1305.0,1347.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, I mean, the numbers speak for themselves, and in the past six and a half years, more than 50 journalists have been killed or disappeared. According to CPJ. Research, we have found that, you know, us us numbers, killings, escalated in Mexico, you know, journalists who covered sensitive issues, like, you know, drug trafficking, human rights abuses, corruption, collusion between the authority and organized crime. You know, being obviously, targeted with with murder and and disappearance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1348.0,1405.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I just thought, since I know you you've written detailed reports, I thought I did. This is not in our list of questions, but I wanted to ask, with respect to those those beats. We've also heard from Mexican journalists and in some very, very risky towns, particularly along the border and like family paths, for example, that even say the most innocent a news report about say someone's you know, selling flowers on the street, may have a connection with, you know, an organized crime group and could be problematic. Have you have you seen, I'm sure you've probably seen in your work that even beats outside of the ones that you mentioned can be an issue in some places?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1406.0,1448.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Oh, definitely. Yeah. That's clearly the case.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1449.0,1454.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I wanted to ask, we're asking what might distinguish see PJ's work from other other organizations like it related to work in Mexico or, obviously have a distinct? You do? You do have some activities that other organizations don't don't participate in?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1455.0,1478.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, I don't know about other organizations. You know, obviously, you know, I know what what their work on press freedom is, but you know, I'm not fully aware of all their activities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1479.0,1493.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: We have been engaged in many different activities in Mexico like As I said before, you know, first documenting publicly issuing alerts and protests that are special reports, they have been engaged in dialogue, productive dialogue with Mexican authorities to cigar with Fox. Now, and, you know, we have, you know, met with, with, with journalists, lawyers advocates and conducted fact finding missions to different places, dangerous areas in Mexico. You know, we have organized seminars, panels, conferences to discuss issues you know,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1494.0,1568.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: pretty extensive work,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1569.0,1569.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: vocal range of activities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1570.0,1572.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: And the reports seem to be based. I mean, I've seen them there. They focus on crimes all over the against journalists all over the country. Really? Yeah, yeah. We're","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1573.0,1586.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: reported with special reports. Honestly JoJo Josiane qualities that accrues thermo leap psychotic as California","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1587.0,1609.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: not I think","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1610.0,1610.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: me Sure can. Special reports on many different issues, and many different areas of concern for us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1611.0,1621.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: And your the way you obtain the original alert that someone has been killed or disappeared or, or, or abused many different ways that you, you track it or find it out,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1622.0,1635.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: we conduct our own research around reporting. We need at least two independent sources from a case. And, you know, we we are usually in touch with colleagues, family members of deceased or disappeared or attack journalists. And obviously, in contact with with authorities, advocates","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1636.0,1673.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: It seems you correct me if I'm wrong, but the figures often used by CPJ for the number of say, Dad, particularly in Mexico, that's an area that we follow. The the focus through the research is whether the journalist was was killed in in the line of work. Is that does that sound correct?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1674.0,1699.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yes, yes, we usually focus our work on journalists are killed in the line of work, although in Mexico, sometimes difficult to. To do this, because of the, you know, the pattern of impunity that is around many of these killings.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1700.0,1722.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Appreciate you're mentioning that. So so there is that in some cases, it may look like someone may not be performing their job, they may be in their home when they're killed. So it's difficult to link it to the work is that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1723.0,1739.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: that's correct. Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1740.0,1742.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Thank you. Just a little bit about if you could talk about a little bit about how your organization sends out in you know, it's reports and it's it's it's communications, you know, if there's any extensive social media network and other","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1743.0,1759.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: for the net, I would like to, to, you know, you ask a question about basically, the methodology. Yes. of journalists killed, and I would like to add something. Thank you. I think it's important. Every organization has its own criteria. And its own methodology, you know, I'm not saying the CPJ is better analysis is different. We apply it we apply our own criteria. We began compiling detailed records on journalists death in 1982. CPJ applies strict journalistic standards when investigating a death. More important aspect of research is establishing whether there was work related. As a result, we classify that as confirmed, or more and more Modi confirmed unmolding unconfirmed, we consider a case confirmed only if we are reasonably certain that a journalist was murdered directly in reprisal for his or her work. It was killed in crossfire during combat situations, or was killed while carrying out dangerous assignments. That can be the coverage of street protests, for example, we don't include journalists who are killed in action, such a car or plane crashes, right. We include only confirmed cases in the statistical analysis in our database. When when the motive is unclear, but it is possible that the journalist was killed because of his or her work. We classify the case as unconfirmed. We continue to monitor investigate, we regularly reclassify cases based on our ongoing research.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1760.0,1884.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: That's very helpful. Thank you. I appreciate that. We","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1885.0,1887.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: also we also began documenting depths of media support workers. And this happening to you know, we did so recognizing the very important role, the vital role of this individuals play in gathering news. So this is workers category includes translators, drivers, fixers and administrative workers. And that's globally, of course. Great. Our archives include narrative capsules for all killed journalists and confirmed or unconfirmed, and also for media workers killed on duty. And it's important to clarify that the cases of media workers are not included in our statistical analysis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1888.0,1948.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: It didn't know. Thank you. So with respect to thank you for that, with respect to groups, who may receive the reports are ways that your organization gets the word out. Well,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1949.0,1966.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: we usually send material alerts, protest letters, releases, through email blasts. And this goes to a range of a wide network of contacts in the country, in the region and in the world,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1967.0,1992.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: that are related to, for example, Mexico. And include, obviously officials, legislators, politicians, human rights, organization press, freedom groups, journalists, organizations, law lawyers, advocates, and obviously, reporters,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=1993.0,2022.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: and I would assume to in their intergovernmental organizations, oh, yeah, definitely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=2023.0,2028.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Organizations like the the special reports are fulfilling session of the nation's the organization we're Americans.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=2029.0,2042.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Thank you, and do you there's a much social media activity like Twitter or any the Americans from Twitter account and a Facebook page, and we we regularly post our releases on Facebook and Twitter. We tweet about Facebook you know, issues related to the state of Mexico. Obviously, the Americas, Latin America and the US. And each regional Pro has its own Facebook account.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=2043.0,2094.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Thank you. Could you tell me or talk a little bit about some of the The challenges are main obstacles, if any, that have affected your work or that of your organization related to Mexico?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=2095.0,2110.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, I think one of the, one of the frustrations we have encountered in our work is the is the issue of impunity. And the fact that most of the cases killed disappeared, journalists in Mexico have gotten punished. You know, this is really the result of a justice system that is built, overburdened and dysfunctional. And it has shown to be incapable of bringing justice and successful prosecutions in crimes against the press. And, you know, creating a problem. That is, GM has gone way beyond the press, and it's affecting, you know, fundamental fundamental rights of Mexicans, the right to freedom of expression, and the right to access information. Which is creating an information vacuum, you know, across vast regions of the country. A society that is less informed is a society that is less democratic. I think, ultimately, you know, this culture of impunity, permeating the Mexican judiciary is infringing the ability of Mexicans to, to remain informed on issues that affect our daily lives. And it's putting the Mexican democracy at risk, no doubt about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=2111.0,2238.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Thank you. Have you speaking of challenges? Have you had any threats against your self? Or has your organization ever been threatened for your work? Because you obviously are in the thick of things at points when you're documenting some of these issues?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=2239.0,2262.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, no, we haven't been threatened. You know? You know, we have we haven't been okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=2263.0,2280.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Thank you. Can you talk a little bit about in, you've already done this. So, you know, if we we've explored this enough that that would be fine. But I'm wondering if you could describe the manner in which your organization you are you as the representative, your organization may work with international groups and national NGOs in Mexico, on the Mexican case. You mentioned dialogue and sharing documents and probably signing on to I'm guessing, signing on to petitions and things like that as group. Any other examples that you wanted to add or that I left out?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=2281.0,2326.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yeah, well, I mean, we, we have been working with Mexican journalists for many years. And try to look for for, for a way to the best way to highlight the problems or the what's the best way to get a reaction from authorities. So they will be able to take action here and you know, we've engaged in, in discussions with them. We have participated in panels conferences. We've done we've done it with with not only messengers but Mexican civil society, press groups and press freedom groups. And we have been working very closely with them since more than a decade. Some of the other results of this latest legislation and constitutional amendment that was passed in the work of our coalition.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=2327.0,2395.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: International local personnel groups have been pushing to step up, and, you know, become more involved and investigating crimes against expression, which is, as I said before, you know, not only affecting the work of the press, but affecting the rights of all Mexicans to be informed and thus creating problems for the health of the Mexican market.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=2396.0,2441.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I wondered with respect to 10 years ago, was there it was there a watershed event that that that, you know, increased CPGs activity in Mexico, I knew I knew 2006 is when called that on, you know, launch the, as you mentioned, the the the, the sort of activity along the border military activity and so forth. But I guess 10 years ago would have been around 2003 2004, what was were there any killings of high profile","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=2442.0,2470.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: was assassin, and photo was really high profile killing vaginas into corner. A co editor of investigative, weekly said that if one of his courses Frank has been investigating, drug trafficking, and corruption. For many years, he was murdered. In front of his children, he came out of medical appointments. Each his course was followed. We we did a special report on scaling. You know, the effect it had on the press one, the rest of the country was targeted for a block and a half away. state prosecutor's office of the state police and the police to more than half an hour to write the crime scene.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=2471.0,2568.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Thank you for that. And to CPJ was there to report all of that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=2569.0,2575.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yes, yes. Yes. Aggressively reported. Effective, special report.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=2576.0,2586.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I'm sure that's one of the places I heard about it. Wanting to ask, and I think you've already talked about this. So just to give you the opportunity, in case there's anything else any any milestones or critical drug junctures that your organization considers progress or regression in addressing some of the issues in Mexico, and you know, you I, you listed many earlier, I didn't know if there, you know, any regressive points that you can think of, besides the impunity issue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=2587.0,2623.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I think that in terms of meiosis, I will say, the constitutional amendment. Here, you know, the approval. Implementing laws this year, was signed by noonday and I think, another positive sign. national authorities recognizing that press freedom have become a national problem was the creation in 2006. The federal prosecutor's office to investigate crimes against journalists at that time, then, you know, the scope of the office was brought into pretty much fashion but this isn't a six after lucem attack against the newspaper Manila, no Laredo or gunmen stormed into the newsroom, heard Bernays Bernays fire assault rifles seriously injuring a reporter Burma prescient Fox announced it was creating a third prosecutor's office missing inferencing as a press something that we have proposed to proceed and function other other international local groups were advocating. Positive, although although the the office proved to be ineffective, because it was working within a framework, that was not the proper framework. The fact that Norman react sent a sine signal to the president was recognizing issue of violence against the press was a national problem. Grave press.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=2624.0,2766.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: The I remember, my my sense from the most recent legislation that was signed is that in some ways was set up to correct the issue of so many of the lope the crimes against journalists being prosecuted locally, correct? Correct. Yeah. And so I guess, is it too soon to know whether what the government's response or how the government's responding or whether the government's responding? 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Yeah, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=2814.0,2816.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yeah, exactly. So so, you know, the federal government can now take some of these cases that were under the jurisdiction of the state. And many, one of the, one of the big problems was, you know, some of these states. You know, first, they have been permeated by organized crime. Some of them hugely permeated by organized crime, they have less resources, and they're less subject to schooling. This is the three different problems in three different layers. And I think that one of the things that that this amendment was aiming at is trying to, you know, you know, broaden the the competence of jurisdiction of federal authorities, so they can take over some of this. Why? Because they have much less. First, it's a responsibility of the federal government, because, you know, frivolous question is constitutional.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=2817.0,2889.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Right. They are more subject to schooling. And while there's corruption at the federal level, it's not so widespread at state level.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=2890.0,2905.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: But I think it's still soon and you need the whole weight of the administration, under this new law, you know, you need political will. And you need successful prosecutions, honest, judges and prosecutors will be able to do the job and bring the people responsible of these crimes to justice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=2906.0,2930.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Very good point. I think you might have mentioned earlier, but it wasn't explicit. So I just wanted to ask, is CPJ and some of its its outreach work been involved with drafting, helping to draft legislation or versions of legislation that's been looked at by government? No, no, no, no. Okay. That's not our job. Okay. Okay. So not that sort of other groups are doing that, I guess. 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We're also checking on, we're asking all the organizations, sort of what some of what some of their funding sources are for the for the work related to Mexico.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=2962.0,2981.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I mean, our funding, you know, it's funding that, you know, usually organizations that fund our work worldwide I don't know if you need names for","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=2982.0,3000.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: that. Is it exhaustive? Or if you have, if you know, if you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=3001.0,3012.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I mean, I will, I will need to look into that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=3013.0,3017.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yeah, I think it's probably listed. Is it listed on CPJ? 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If we, you know, need any more than that, but I'm sure it's, it's, I'm guessing it's up there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=3025.0,3032.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yeah, we received funding from dropping foundations, media. And individuals. Any kind of funding from governments or government agencies?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=3033.0,3051.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: None? None? Okay. Okay, that does, that would be a distinguishing characteristic. Okay, thank you for that. Let's see, I think this is such a big question. I don't know, if you were sort of wrapped coming up to the end here. But I wondered, one of the questions is, how would you evaluate the level of training or preparedness of journalists to effectively report we have in the border region, because that's what we had been studying for about, you know, half a year. In Mexico, I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=3052.0,3093.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: CPAs are involved in initiatives of really involved issues of training and capacitation. But your question was, level of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=3094.0,3106.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: preparedness to deal in this sort of environment of high risk.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=3107.0,3112.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I think that, you know, dependent, depending on the state and the regions, but, you know, it's very difficult to prepare for this kind of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=3113.0,3125.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: work, you know, especially under the circumstances in Mexico, because it's not a it's not really normal kind of conflict zone, a war zone, right, is very difficult. So, I think that, you know, we found in our experience, journalists who have been completely completely unprepared to deal with these issues and you know, but since, you know, the situation has been deteriorating for years. Now, you know, we also found in the last few years, at least, you know, a group of editors on journals that are you know, taking much more precautions, that are you know, dealing with with with the risks involved in mature way and, you know, that are, you know, worked on on on different strategies in order to, you know, to reduce risks. So, I will say that in the last few years, you know, as a result of, you know, the situation increasing dangers, you know, journalists are making efforts and editors are trying to prepare better for for really risky situations in which they conduct their work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=3126.0,3236.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: And that is one way that you, you will have done some outreach, right, with, with with with respect to disease, you know, strategizing, and I've seen materials on the website, even","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=3237.0,3248.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: CPJ has, you know, into season three prior to you know, the US invasion in Iraq CPJ prepared a manual security manual for journalists covering conflict, which was basically you know, made for four journalists our gonna cover the Iraq War. Last year CPJ relaunched that security manual and was directed to, you know, to finish covering conflict zones, but you know, areas like Mexico, which is not the typical topics, and there's many tips See, recommendations, suggestions in different areas and different different areas of work, right? To work on line journals and work, print journals, broken journalists, you know, there's many, many, many tips, recommendations, suggestions, names of companies provides, provide journalists with protection. It's available. We made it available also in Spanish, very useful tool for countering dangerous terrorists in Mexico.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=3249.0,3342.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Thank you. And then finally, just to ask, if you have a sense of see PJ's plans, and then in the coming years, if it's any related to forward looking issues related to freedom of expression or information security or access to information in Mexico?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=3343.0,3366.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Right, well, we will continue to aggressively document procedure violations in Mexico personnel abuses, we we will be we will continue to, to do special reports on the state of the press in the different regions will continue to engage with with government officials and members of Congress and obviously journalists and free press advocate. And we are planning to monitor you know, the, you know, implementation of the constitutional amendment to make sure that you know that the cycle of impurity surrounding these cases is finally broken. Right. The most important thing because we believe that, you know, the, the, as it happened in Colombia, the security situation for journals will improve only when the overall security situation in the country improves, but at the same time, it is key for, for the Mexican justice systems to bring successful prosecutions to send a signal to journalists, you know, that those who turn to target journalists with assassination and disappearance will be punished. So they can continue to do the work and continue to report on on issues that, you know, that are affecting so many Mexicans, it's not easy, and it will take time. But, you know, we have an obligation to, to, you know, to our commitment to, to work on this issue, and, you know, support the plight of Mexican journalists are working under very difficult circumstances.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=3367.0,3499.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Thank you so much. This has been so helpful. Is there is there anything else that you'd like to add that I didn't ask you about?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=3500.0,3508.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: No, I think we covered most of the most genuine, thank you so much for","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299#t=3509.0,3511.0"}]},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1285/collection_resources/74428/file/160299/transcript/38229/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/038/229/original/azu_ms533_016_a.vtt?1654024534","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/038/229/original/azu_ms533_016_a.vtt?1654024534"}]}]}]}