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This is Jay Rocklin here on Arizona alumni forum programs brought to you by the University of Arizona's Alumni Association in this station. Thanks for being with us. Today we're gonna talk about education, the College of Education at the University of Arizona. And we have as our guest, the new dean of the College of Education. On my far left is Dean, john Taylor, welcome. Good to have you with us. And with them is Peggy Douglas, who's an assistant dean at the University of Arizona's College of Education had been there about what's going on 10 years now, I guess, almost. Let's start with you, john, you're fairly new to the scene starting your second year. Why did you come to Arizona? And why did you find?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=66.0,101.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, Arizona was a great opportunity for me in particular, the University of Arizona, in particular, the College of Education at the University of Arizona, when I've found out that there was a job here, I wasn't necessarily interested in coming, because I thought it was in the middle of the desert and wicking first and doing the middle of the desert and things of that nature. But what but what was very important was the university and the College of Education. The College of Education, as you might know, is one of the best in the whole of the United States. And as international and national reputation. It makes significant contributions to people in the state of Arizona with those things. Looking at me, I forgot about the desert, and most certainly wanted to come and work at a fine institution.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=102.0,151.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: And a tiny, tiny bit about your background. Where do you come from? Where do you grow up?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=152.0,154.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, I grew up in Oakland, California, I'm a California and did most of my public schooling and some private schooling in California, and all of my college education as well. Before coming to the University of Arizona, I was at Cal State University at Chico, and I was the Dean of the College of Education there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=155.0,173.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Hey, you came back to the university as a student as opposed to an administrative rank,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=174.0,177.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I think you would say I was a non traditional student returning later on in life, always doing yes of teaching. I taught the fourth grade for a number of years and then later on became interested in higher education seen. So I came back to schools as a student, myself and 1980. After earning other degrees and other places, I decided to pursue the higher education scene,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=178.0,202.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: because you finished a PhD here at the U of A","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=203.0,204.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: at the College of Education in 1984. I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=205.0,206.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: decided to stay decided to stay. We'll get to the dean in a second. But could you describe a little bit of the scope of your own job now,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=207.0,212.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: my job is principally with students working with undergraduate and post baccalaureate students can post","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=213.0,218.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: back in the red being","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=219.0,219.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: being those persons who have earned a degree already and come back to our college to get their certification requirements to meet the state requirements to date. So, as you know, we're an upper division college. So there's an extra admission process as students reach their junior year and post baccalaureate to decide to come back to school. And my job is to help them in that process either before they enter the college. And certainly after.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=220.0,247.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Dr. Taylor, let's describe the scope of your responsibilities a little bit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=248.0,251.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, I'm basically the Chief Administrative Officer of the College of Education. I'm the Dean of the Faculty. And we're closely with the department heads, the faculty, the assistant and Associate Dean, the students and staff to basically run a first rate College of college in the university. So I take care of financial issues, personality issues, we deal with the curriculum, other academic issues, and as well as our research and service components in the College of Education.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=252.0,289.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: We'll talk about some of the specific areas and just a little bit. Give us a feel for how big the colleges how many faculty members do you have how many students do you attach?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=290.0,297.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay, we have 74 tenured eligible and tenured faculty members. We probably have another 50 or so add junks clinical professors, academic professionals who work in the College of Education as well. We have five departments in the College of Education, language reading and culture, higher education and administration, teaching and teacher education, psycho educational psychology that I get all five,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=298.0,328.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: education better. Okay,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=329.0,330.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: right. Well, they're watching them. Now, we also have about 1000 in in 25 graduate students and about 650 700 undergraduate students in the College of Education.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=331.0,345.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: And Peggy, how many students do graduate a year?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=346.0,347.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, about 200 in the teacher prep program. Now graduate students, that varies enormously. Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=348.0,356.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: So it would seem intuitively that it's one of the bigger colleges on campus, and over the years has graduated about as many as the bigger colleges and campuses, is that a misimpression? Or is that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=357.0,367.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: No, we have we have an enormous number of graduates over the years, I think it's 25,000 or so over since the college began in 1922.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=368.0,377.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: So your question,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=378.0,378.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: and I'm just wanting to get a feel of just just how big a contribution? 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That came about in 19,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=383.0,396.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: probably eight semesters ago, about four years ago.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=397.0,398.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay, well, sounds good. We can get a feel for the scope, the college, there's some specific issues, it's gonna get tougher. And we'll come back in just a minute. If you stick with us here on the Arizona alumni forum. We'll be back in a second.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=399.0,513.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Thanks for staying with us on Arizona alumni forum, Jay Rocklin. back with you speaking with the Dean of the University of Arizona's College of Education, john Taylor, and Assistant Dean Peggy Douglas. Let's get into some issues that people have been thinking about and we've heard about the college enough, I guess. We'll talk more about it later. But all summer we heard about severe budget cuts of the U of A we've been reading about the disaster in California and the University of Oregon went so far as to shut down a college education. People ask why at a research university, do we even have a college education Dr. Taylor?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=514.0,542.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, colleges of education have long histories in land grant institutions like the University of Arizona also make major contributions to research at research one universities like the University of Arizona, and plays a major role in service activities, like the University of Arizona, other colleges do the College of Education at a major research one university, we do a number of things that schools smaller schools cannot do. Let me give you a couple of examples. One of the things that we do is generate a lot of external funds. Our college of education generates at least $4.1 million a year in external funds, because it's a research one university and because those funds will support grant to do research on problems in schools. In particular problems that are considered enduring problems of practice, that no one school in the state console, or a one individual Professor console, where there are a number of people working together to solve a particular problem, for example, how we can teach kids to learn better, or, for example, dealing with those issues of restructuring school. So what the other part of it is that we can also train graduate students to do those same kinds of things while they're graduate students, and then in turn, turn out a new generation of scholars and researchers to serve people in the state, in the public schools, in community colleges, and in other higher education institutions. But the main thing that you need to understand is that we can do things at a research one institution that other people can't do, we can generate grants, we can prepare the next generation of scholars, we also do a number of things in preparing school superintendents, principals, and other leaders in schools. Whereas a viewer only an undergraduate education institution, you will not have the capacity to do those different kinds of things. Research of colleges of education are significant too, because we combine theory and practice research and practice in ways that cannot be done at, say, some of the California State University schools. If we also do something else, that's that's very, very, very critical. And that is that we can make a difference in policy kinds of decisions that school districts need to know about. Because we can concentrate on particular problems, we can bring that back to the classroom. And we can we can help people understand problems from a research perspective, as well as a practice perspective. So you've you asked the question, what can we do, we can do things that a number of smaller institutions cannot do in terms of marry research to practice theory to practice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=543.0,722.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I want to come back and a little bit to ask you for some specific examples. But first, I want to turn to to Dean Douglas, you probably have as much hands on contact with the individual who just wants to go out there and be a good school teacher. Do you see those individuals who are going to go teach fourth grade, sixth grade, whatever, actually benefiting from some of the kinds of things that Dean Taylor just described? Definitely. Tell us about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=723.0,747.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I think we have an enormously diverse population in the college. And they probably benefit in as many ways as many diverse ways as one could think from the age factor that the the undergraduate who's just beginning, all the way to the 60 year old postback glorious student who has wanted to be a teacher all his life, in this case, his life. The methods courses, the student teaching experience, are incredibly beneficial, we hope that our students will be introduced first off to the educational psychology, education in the schools, introductory course to teaching in the classroom. And I think all of those build to the final step of student teaching. And from all that I have gathered, it's been for 96% of the students and enormously wonderful opportunity and experience. There are always two or three in every group that find that teaching is not for them. But for the the large group. It's a wonderful experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=748.0,815.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: detailer omelets, let's talk about your role for a little bit as a dean, it's a fairly high profile position, both in the college but also in the community. What role do you do you think a dean in general, and you'd maybe you in particular, should be playing visa v the public schools here in Tucson or statewide?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=816.0,832.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, let me give you an example. That's close to all of our hearts right now. And that has to do with the governor's reform movement, and the national goals of America 2000 goals. It one of the things that's very important for me to do is to let people know that we are making major contributions to school reform and to the national goals. I joked one time and said that the President Bush, instead of going to the University of Virginia, to have the summit and talk about school reform, and he should have come to the University of Arizona into the College of Education in particular. And the reason is this, those six goals that he has stated are very important and the goals that the state of Arizona have which are similar to those goals of state are very important, in many kinds of ways have been realized through the research in the service and the teaching activities that have occurred in the College of Education, for example. Well, let me give you an example. One goal is on to deal with readiness for school for children. We have at least six different projects that address that particular issue. In fact, we've got one project project by Alice Paul dealing with follow through activities that has been going on for 25 years, funded by the federal government to help kids in Tucson and deal with Indian oasis. And also in other states dealing with readiness for school. JACK Bergen is working with the Navajo Nation on on a headstart projects, and helping with assessing students and looking at ways in which they can improve. And when you look at a number of the other goals, in each category, we have activities that are making a major difference, and have been going on for a long time. And that's why the President should have come to the University of Arizona. Just one more one more point, there are at least 32 major projects in the College of Education, you know, that are making major contributions to schools, to the children in the schools, to the teachers and to the community at large. So, those are some primary examples and I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=833.0,962.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: wish maybe we'll have a chance to talk about more of those in just a little bit. We need to break one more time and we'll come back and talk more about education in Arizona. Please stay with us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=963.0,1073.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Hi, Jay Rocklin here. Thanks for staying with us back to talking about education with Dean john Taylor and Assistant Dean Peggy Douglas. wanted two more questions. I just I'm sure on people's minds they wonder as we, you know, we talked about the number of students y'all had cranking out more every year. We read in the paper, just maybe what two weeks ago here in Tucson, I imagine similar stories in Phoenix, what 750 people applied for a job in the Catalina foothills Juris Doctor for 16 openings, why you cranking out 200 more teachers a year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=1074.0,1105.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: There are many districts in the state that that are looking for teachers, though Tucson is a primary area for a lot of job seekers. There are a lot of other places our career placement office tells us that are looking desperately for teachers of in all of the elementary and secondary grades, particularly the rural areas. And then of course, because of at least we think the reputation of the college, a lot of our students are being recruited out of state.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=1106.0,1134.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I was so we're actually losing folks","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=1135.0,1135.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: we are losing. Some of our bilingual candidates, for instance, who are very much desired in this area also are being recruited in the in the areas the state surrounding Arizona. And in fact, sometimes it's almost there almost as popular as athletes, since they're being courted early on, even as they begin their junior year, taken to dinners etc. By out of state recruiters hoping to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=1136.0,1166.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: bring them what states are eating or stealing RP, Texas,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=1167.0,1169.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: mostly. Texas is very interested in our students but also California, New Mexico. Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=1170.0,1175.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: At the same time though. There's gotta be a selectivity issue going on because we also hear why we're hearing about these glut of teachers anyway in Tucson, although it's obviously not the case. As you mentioned, I live in the outlying areas. People being turned away from the College of Education and when I was in school, 20 years ago, that wasn't the case. Anyone can go to college of education, it can be flunking other liberal arts course and the College of Education We would take them in today at the Alumni Association. We get calls from parents all the time saying what can you do to help my kid get in? What's going on Peggy,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=1176.0,1207.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: you know, that old saying George Bernard Shaw said about those who can do and those who cannot teach is no longer the case, particularly in this college of education, we have become very selective. And it's astonishing, the the student body that we now have, we have become selected because of limited resources in the first place and want to do a good job in terms of training the teachers, therefore, with the staff and resources that we have, the numbers must be limited. We have a grade point average of 3.2 to 3.3. Now, of incoming students, that's much higher than it used to be, although our minimum requirement is 2.5. Excuse me. So, but we asked for other things from our students,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=1208.0,1255.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I would ask Dr. Taylor about that. Because one thing that concerns some folks watching that happen is that, you know, while on the one hand, we're paying a whole lot of lip service to trying to develop teachers with our minority backgrounds, bilingual teachers, if you start going around asking for three, five average to even get in, I mean, that has a chance of cutting out a whole lot of those exact same people who probably didn't get very good grades during their freshman or sophomore year. So what are you doing to, uh, to deal with the project of keeping a diverse student population?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=1256.0,1287.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, one of the things that we have been doing extremely well under Peggy's leadership lately, is our recruitment and retention plans. When Peggy has hired an outstanding educator, Maria Lopez, who's working on that particular activity within the college for all minority groups that we can possibly attract to come to the College of Education. And we've seen some significant results of her work at this point in time. We don't just count however on on her the faculty to participate in trying to attract students to the College of Education. Now, part of attracting students at the College of Education is making sure that they understand early on what it is that is required to enter into the teacher education program. And so I think we've done an outstanding job of reaching out to students at different levels so they can understand that kind of information.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=1288.0,1350.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Now, let's let's talk about them. Right now. There's people watching, that are thinking that in September 1992, I want to be in the College of Education, or I want my kid to be what is required.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=1351.0,1361.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I think, a good grade point average is only one part, I think a demonstration of interest in working with children, our candidates do a lot of that work in day camps, in religious institutions in any other way that they can in terms of working with children. We look for their experiences in in cross cultural ways. And this demonstration of being able to work with children in other ways. Even in the classroom, they work as aids volunteers, docents, no older","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=1362.0,1394.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: people, people in the 30s. We have","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=1395.0,1396.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: a number of post baccalaureate students 30% of ours are usually the older students. Some of them are undergraduates as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=1397.0,1403.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Is there room for folks that have had a career and decided they wanted to become a teacher later in life? Absolutely. It talked about that a little bit like what can that person do? They let's say they hypothetically didn't get very good grades in collagen in 1980. Well, we've","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=1404.0,1417.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: done one thing we asked for their most recent 56 units and decide the grade point on their most recent 56 units of work. Therefore, that is advantageous to those persons that started out poorly at at the university or any other school when they were younger. So they can also go back to school and fulfill some of their general education requirements prior to the professional education requirements.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=1418.0,1443.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=1444.0,1444.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: we need to break one more time and we'll be back for one more segment. Hope you stick around. This is our final segment of Arizona alumni forum brought to you by the University of Arizona's Alumni Association and this station j Rocklin. Still here with you with dr. john Taylor and Dr. Peggy Douglas. Let's get back to talking about teachers who teachers are on how you prepare them. But But first, let's turn to welcome back to the issue of accessibility, and making this just helping us the school on our whole stay for that matter of reaching its goals of diversity. Who are the folks that are finding their way into the College of Education?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=1445.0,1581.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, we have all ages, we have 22% of our teacher preparation students, undergraduate students are ethnic minority students. They are","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=1582.0,1596.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: that's about as good as any college and university,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=1597.0,1598.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I imagine. So I think it's very good. And we work hard at that we work hard at searching for those students with the especially with an enormous need of bilingual teachers in the school system.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=1599.0,1609.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: How good are the students?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=1610.0,1611.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: The students are excellent. I think I mentioned before that the the grade point average runs between 3.2 and 3.3, on an incoming 56 units of undergraduate coursework, and I'm saying that is for all students, some of the most unlikely candidates that I'm thinking specifically right now have a migrant workers daughter, who is a junior in the college, as we speak, has moved all over creation all over California, and all over Mexico, and is probably one of our strongest undergraduate students. She's speak Spanish fluently will be an excellent bilingual teacher and has a grade point average of 3.6 grade.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=1612.0,1651.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: So she's obviously not typical by imagine more people, but grade point average, and we imagine","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=1652.0,1656.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: this, some do, but our our, all of our students are strong academic,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=1657.0,1662.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: we've, we've been have a student who's a Flynn scholar, and that's in the College of Education, who wants to become a teacher. So","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=1663.0,1670.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: john, I want to ask you something that's kind of more personal, but might shed some light on the motivation of so many students because, you know, they're the stereotype is, if we're thinking of a, quote, very, very bright minority student, why wouldn't that individual go into business or into engineering, as opposed to choose a career in education like you, where he's going to make come out of school, make $22,000 instead of $40,000, share some of your own motivations, and then some of theirs?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=1671.0,1697.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, the very first reason to become a teacher, is because you care about children. And you really believe that you can make a difference in their life, in particular in how they learn and what they can become when they get when they get older. The other reason is, because you have this, this feeling of, of, of warmth, that comes from relationships you've had with other people who've been involved in education, environment, and kind of contributions they've made to you. So you want to give back in certain kinds of ways, in the best ways that you could do that is working with children and doing something that's going to make a difference on your life. It's nice. So it didn't, what I think happened with with the number of students is that the contribution that they can make the children is much larger than the amount of money that they could make doing something else. Is that your own story a little bit? That is a great deal of my of my own story. My my feeling is that with that you can my human condition change because of my experience with people in education. And because of that we even have a theme in the College of Education, which is improving the human condition through education, particularly for children. At least that's my theme as my as I serve as the Dean of the College of Education. And I think that's what many of us who are in education are all about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=1698.0,1782.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Great. That's nice. We're just about out of time, Peggy but before we leave, you're running a group to try and focus students on future careers. The program's about that real quick and how they can find","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994#t=1783.0,1791.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73627/file/159994/transcript/37904/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: the program coordinator that Dean Taylor mentioned that we have hired is specifically interested in starting future teacher clubs. 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