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Good afternoon. It's Thursday, October 21 1999 and I am with MS Dudley. Dudley at the Exeter Inn in Exeter, New Hampshire. My name is Julie ferdon, and I would like to welcome you and thank you for your participation. It's my pleasure. Let me begin with some brief biographical background. When and where were you born","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286#t=1.0,28.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286/transcript/78603/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: in Exeter, New Hampshire? You were imagined, yes,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286#t=29.0,32.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286/transcript/78603/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: and you were in Durham, New Hampshire during Mo's campaign. When did you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286#t=33.0,38.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286/transcript/78603/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: That's right, I was born in Exeter, and my parents lived in Durham, and so I've lived in Durham all my life. 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Now? I'm retired.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286#t=58.0,61.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286/transcript/78603/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: I have been a nonprofit administrator.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286#t=62.0,66.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286/transcript/78603/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Excuse me, do you work? What kind of nonprofits have you been working with?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286#t=67.0,72.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286/transcript/78603/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: The most recent one was called will the women legislators lobby? And was a National Organization of Women state legislators organized to work with their members of Congress to get them to reduce the federal budget appropriation for military weapons, excellent","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286#t=73.0,96.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286/transcript/78603/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: going back to 1974 What was Your What was your profession? Then, were you working with non profits? Then","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286#t=97.0,102.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286/transcript/78603/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: 1974 No, I had just been elected to the New Hampshire state legislature in 1919 72 I think, and Mo Ran in 74 or 76 he","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286#t=103.0,120.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286/transcript/78603/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: announced in 74 right? It was for the 76 campaign, right, good. 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Bedford and Manchester are often they're almost interchangeable, but you'd be more likely to say Manchester if it happened in Bedford than the other way around. So maybe he did. Maybe he then went out to the wayfarer or something, something like that. But I'm quite sure that it was he at the carpenter. The presidential campaigns tend to blur together, but I think that's right. 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Do you remember anything about that announcement,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286#t=356.0,360.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286/transcript/78603/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: nothing. And I'm sure that I was barely conscious of it, because I do remember that for the whole duration of the campaign, right up until the weekend before the primary election in New Hampshire, I didn't even seriously. I didn't take Carter seriously. 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Maybe, I would think maybe even a little younger, because I'm not sure that he was out of college, or even if it started, I think it might have been a finding yourself year, but he was just so sweet, you know. And I love the idea that he's in Congress now. That's wonderful. He and Tom, yes, isn't that amazing? It is. Yeah, it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286#t=672.0,699.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286/transcript/78603/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: And and Ann, formerly known as Bambi. She's Anne. 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I cannot think of what, enough of what our strategy was to think of what we should have been doing differently. I mean, you can look at Carter's having brought those people from Georgia, and think it would have been great if mo had brought them from Arizona, but","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286#t=1154.0,1172.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286/transcript/78603/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I don't know, do you think more time mo spending more time would have been different?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286#t=1173.0,1177.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286/transcript/78603/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: Well, you know, that's always a question, and Carter probably did spend more time in New Hampshire than than he did, although I don't know that there were, there were dreadful scheduling arguments, but I think that's not different from any other campaign. And who were those between I can't remember who the scheduler was. Tall. All thin, very thin guy. I can see him in his office in Manchester, but it would have been between him and he would establish the schedule, and then there'd be all these competing requests for Moe's time, and all between the first CD and the second towns that thought they hadn't had their fair share of him. I think Mo was would have been a wonderful president, but he wasn't an outstanding candidate. And I think too often, the qualities that make you a wonderful president are not the same. Those make you a wonderful candidate. And the question of whether or not he had the fire in his belly is a valid one. I don't know that he did. I think he knew he'd be a good president, but I'm not sure that he really for all his gregariousness and charm, I'm not sure that he was an extrovert, you know? I think he was a very gentle, thoughtful, sensitive, insightful person who didn't get up in the morning and say, Oh, great, I'm going to wade into another crowd of people as Clinton does, you know, so in that way, I think the campaign lacked a candidate with that really wild and crazy passion to be out there campaigning. I don't think he had that. 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Did you stay active","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286#t=1307.0,1309.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286/transcript/78603/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: in politics? Oh, in politics, yes, but not in his campaign. Then I ran for re election myself, and then I ran for Governor's Council, which is a funny, anachronistic office here in New Hampshire, which made me the highest ranking woman in the state history till then, and highest ranking Democrat. But I wasn't involved in his campaign any further","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286#t=1310.0,1336.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286/transcript/78603/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: well, and I was going to ask you, as the last one, what, what you thought? How you thought Moe would be a good president or not?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286#t=1337.0,1342.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286/transcript/78603/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: Oh yeah, you bet I do. He would have been a fabulous one, and I don't think Jimmy Carter was a bad one. And in fact, I think that he probably gets a bum rap, but mo would have been better. He would have","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286#t=1343.0,1363.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3179/collection_resources/146500/file/270286/transcript/78603/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: I'd have to agree, yeah, I bet. Okay. Thank you very much. You're welcome, patient. We appreciate it. Good. 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