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Today is August 15, 2003 My name is Elizabeth Davison, and I'm with Diane Austin, we're recording the memories and information from Steve Fazio, professor emeritus of horticulture, at the U of A and we're at his home and at 3554 East Alarcon in Tucson, Arizona, Steve, is it your understanding that we're going to keep your recordings and your data to be archived at the University of Arizona Special Collections at the library, and we will use this in an oral history project about the campus landscape. Is that okay with you? That's fine. Okay, good. Also present is Steve's wife, Mary Ellen Fazio, and she'll chime in from time to time. Mary Ellen, is this all right with you? Bye, okay, Steve, why don't you start by telling us where you're from and how you got to Tucson.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243862#t=14.0,69.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243862/transcript/68339/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: I was born in Phoenix, so I'm a native, and I came to the University and graduated in 1940 and shortly after graduating, I went to work for the commission of agriculture and horticulture as a quarantine inspector. I was there for two years, and there was no future in it, really for me, so I contacted my department head, Dr Finch, and one time he told me there was an opening for an instructor and a research assistant. And I grabbed it in a hurry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243862#t=70.0,102.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243862/transcript/68339/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Dr Finch was here at the U of A Yes,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243862#t=103.0,104.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243862/transcript/68339/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: and at that time, my functions as an instructor was to get lab material all prepared for his different different classes. And eventually, when he left town, I took his classes. So that gave me a little teaching experience, but my main function at the time was to be a campus coordinator. Dr Finch and Dr Street and Bill Bray, the superintendent of buildings and ground, formed the campus committee. They did all the landscaping, and the gardening phase of the university was assigned to Bill Bray, superintendent of building ground, and he had a fellow by the name of Joe Scirocco, who's in charge of all the gardeners. And he assigned each gardener a specific area, like Maricopa Hall and so on. He issued a wheelbarrow, a rake, a shovel and a pair of pruning shears. And that was that was a bad thing to do. Most of the gardeners sheared all the plants, removed the skirt from the bottom so they could remove the leaves and bottles and so on. And that was unsightly. They're still doing that today. So this was my job, to take away the pruning shares from all of these gardeners and allow me to do all the pruning. So I did this for a number of years, and was very successful at it. We had a lot of compliments and so on. So that was my main function for many years until 1951 I got my master's degree, and I was assigned several courses at that time, beginning horticulture and vegetable production. Well, in 1961 I was promoted to associate professor. I had two more courses, plant propagation and home gardening. Now, the home gardening was a course designed for students in liberal arts. You know, our students in agriculture have take so many units and BPA and liberal arts and so on, but liberal arts students take no courses in agriculture because we have too many prerequisites. So I went to the dean and told them I'd like to design a course for liberal arts students without prerequisites. So he agreed on this. And home gardening course was very popular with with the liberal arts students, the highest enrollment I had was 150 and it averaged 100 for about the next 10 years. And we taught these students all about pruning, fertilizers, insects, but on a level that they could all understand very nicely. So it was a very popular course. Well, in 1964 I became acting head, and I had to give up all campus duties at that time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243862#t=105.0,280.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243862/transcript/68339/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: Can I ask? Can I jump in and ask, when you did this liberal arts course for the general students, you know, the gardening course, did you make use of the campus? Did you take them out to show them plants? Or did you, Oh,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243862#t=281.0,294.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243862/transcript/68339/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: definitely, no. We had field field trips to the farm. We had field trips. Campus. And I might say that Dr streets and I had tours of the campus for the general public, and this went on for a number of years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243862#t=295.0,309.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243862/transcript/68339/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: We also had greenhouse facilities for propagation and such as","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243862#t=310.0,316.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243862/transcript/68339/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: that. Well. This went on until I became a full acting head in 1965 and I gave up all my teaching, I mean, all my campus duties at that time. And in 1966 when I was department head, I went to the dean and explained to him that in the College of Agriculture, we were in a very favorable position to have we would call desert landscape architecture. And he agreed on this. So this is when I brought in guy green. You probably remember him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243862#t=317.0,352.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243862/transcript/68339/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: Guy green just recently passed away. 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We had students from Iraq, Iran, well played and Africa that were interested, because they were from arid regions, and they were interested in arid landscape architect. So the enrollment became such as I explained that Warren Jones was brought in. I think Warren, at the time, was a an instructor, a professor in one of the universities in California, and we made him an attractive offer, and he came over, and I think he was promoted more rapidly than anyone we ever had on the staff. He was hired as assistant professor, he went to associate and then full professor in a matter of, I think four years. Is that right? Yeah, so he did a marvelous job. And I think at one time, I don't remember the year that we became accredited landscape architect department. Now, after, after I left, I don't know what happened to the department. I understand the accreditation was removed for some reason.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243862#t=412.0,474.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243862/transcript/68339/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: Well, the undergraduate accreditation was removed, but it stayed in the College of Agriculture, accredited at the master's level for a long time, and more recently, it's moved to architecture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243862#t=475.0,488.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243862/transcript/68339/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: Now, I know we had a little argument with who was a dean middle at the time, was the dean of the College of Law architecture. 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Myers, I told Dean little I don't think you appreciate I said, the landscape architect has to hide the defects of the i","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243862#t=505.0,522.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243862/transcript/68339/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: So you were the head of horticulture at this time, and you now have guy green and Warren Jones helping. Did they do things on campus that you approved of, or was there some link between your work and campus,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243862#t=523.0,538.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243862/transcript/68339/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: especially with Warren Jones, he went into Mexico, and he introduced a number of species of plants that were growing in arid regions, and he brought them on campus. 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So I stayed on as department head from 1964 to 1971 then went back to teaching. And that's I think about that times when Chuck Raisman came in, if I'm not mistaken. And Chuck was one of our students, so he was acquainted with campus conditions","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243862#t=560.0,580.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243862/transcript/68339/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: was, that's right, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243862#t=581.0,584.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243862/transcript/68339/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 3: Can I ask at that time, when you were switching over to offer desert landscaping as a class, was there a similar switch in the way the campus was being landscaped, that there was more emphasis on desert plants?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243862#t=585.0,597.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243862/transcript/68339/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: Yes, very definitely. Instead of some of these plants that are very common, this is where Warren Jones came in. He brought something that was very unusual and very attractive. Many people observed these plants and fell in love with them. So it was something he did, a Marvel sing by bringing these plants in. 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And that was a big enrollment in that one boy that was a popular course there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243862#t=624.0,647.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243862/transcript/68339/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 3: So with what year you were department head, you said you went back to teaching. 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Dr Pugh was in charge of the farm at that time. Dr hilgeman was in charge of the citrus farm at Tempe, but we had Rodney. Dr Rodney was a Yuma, you know, we had a very unusual thing. We I did the landscaping of Maricopa Hall patio. That was my own one big project, and that was for, I don't know if you remember, Miss Snyder. She was a house mother of Maricopa Hall, so when we landscaped her patio, all that was her pride and joy. If there was an insect or a relief turned yellow, she'd call me Steve. Can you come right over? So I come, come right over. And this was the usual procedure, Steve, excuse me for just a minute. I'll be right back. She goes in her office and comes back with a big cow bell. In order to get to the patio, you had to go down this long hallway. And she says, Follow me. 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I don't know which ones they were now. There was quite a quite a few that had the you couldn't buy seed. You had to use the floods, because they didn't produce seed. 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I don't think it hurt our enrollment in any way. Some of them quizzed, are you going to teach agronomy courses? That was one question. How often asked, Are you going to interchange courses between the two? Are you going to teach some agronomy courses or horticulture? That was only thought that was in their mind. But I don't know. I think we were one of the few departments. I don't know of any other university that combined it to them may have, I don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243833#t=707.0,736.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243833/transcript/68340/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: I think a lot of them did, and more recently, I think a lot of them are splitting back out again, or trying to think of different ways of thinking about it. 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Picture with you skipped one there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243833#t=1547.0,1556.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243833/transcript/68340/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: Well, here's a picture of some people planting a tree and somebody with a tie. Is that you? Yeah, 1976","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243833#t=1557.0,1571.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243833/transcript/68340/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: oh, here's one in later years of snow, neck tie. 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That's, yes, there","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243833#t=1626.0,1641.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243833/transcript/68340/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: I drew well out of the cartoons in there. This was a thing we had developed, a strawberry. Grow strawberries in a limited area. So you grow them in tears. This way, this would be four feet by four feet, fill it full of soil, and then put another one, one foot smaller than this, and plant all the way around it,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243833#t=1642.0,1666.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243833/transcript/68340/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: a lot of strawberries. Oh yeah,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243833#t=1667.0,1670.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243833/transcript/68340/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: that one was that in 77 there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243833#t=1671.0,1672.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243833/transcript/68340/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 3: What would you say were your most successful experiments, or things that you tried?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243833#t=1673.0,1679.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243833/transcript/68340/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: I think it was being plant propagation. I don't know which one it was. I think we, when we discovered the technique of growing palo verdes from cutting, that was unusual. Nobody ever tried it","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243833#t=1680.0,1689.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243833/transcript/68340/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: before. You know, even today, in the nurseries, people having a hard time with that, they're grafting and doing air layering of palo verdes rather than do cuttings. 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It was kind of difficult because it was held in Northern California, and he was here. He was the only member from Arizona. Oh, and then he, that is that the one he won the LM where award Steve International, Black Paw for years, I think it was in North Carolina. He was honored. Honored. He was the, well, that's what he bought. His order. Nothing. Money you got from that, and it was International. 1979 where's your LM, where wasn't that profit? Years, no internet. What was that? Food Court, National Society for horticultural sciences, I guess","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243833#t=1769.0,1820.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243833/transcript/68340/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 3: so this society we were hearing was mostly in California. 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That was an international.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243833#t=1844.0,1850.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2345/collection_resources/130436/file/243833/transcript/68340/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: Western chapter is still intact. 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