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This program is brought to you by the 140,000 members of the University of Arizona's Alumni Association and this station. I'm Jay Rocklin, the editor of the University of Arizona's alumni magazine who today with you, and today I'm honored to have as my guest, the new president of the University of Arizona. Well, t Pacheco just came to Arizona recently from Texas, as President of the University of Texas are used in downtown campus. Welcome, great to have you with us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=57.0,80.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Thank you. It's nice to be here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=81.0,82.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: So papers around the state and around the country called your appointment historic. In what sense? Is your appointment historic?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=83.0,87.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, I think it's historic in that I'm the first Hispanic to be appointed to a made to the presidency at a major American University.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=88.0,98.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: So as you're feeling that it's about time, it should have happened a long time ago, or it's right that you were the first guy and well, of course I see on the spot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=99.0,107.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I feel good that it was me because I feel perfectly capable of handling the position. I think that for a long time, there have been a lot of people who have been well qualified. But this is this is the time when it's happened.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=108.0,119.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Grant, your background is fascinating. You grew up in a family of 12 children.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=120.0,125.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: That's right. I'm the oldest of those 12.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=126.0,128.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: And we read that every single one of those 12 went to college and graduated. Why was your family special?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=129.0,136.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, I think that having growing up in a in a small farm and in New Mexico and in a very poor environment that there was there was there weren't very many amenities around, I think it taught us a lot of responsibility. And one of the things that happened is that education was available. And since we were expected to be responsible, and if we were going to do something we needed to do it well, the expectation was that we would also be good students,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=137.0,168.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: what's something more is going on there, there has to be because an awful lot of minorities grow up in large families and with pretty tough conditions. And don't succeed. Tell us about your parents, they've got to be part of the story.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=169.0,181.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, there's there's no doubt about that they both had an interest in in our success. But they also had, they had very high expectations of themselves. And they transmitted those expectations to each of their children. And I happened to be the oldest and was able to respond to that. And I think it set a pattern perhaps for the rest of the rest of us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=182.0,201.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yeah. Well, how important is it? I realize that you're the president of university, not teaching grammar school, but everybody you know, the whole spectrum. How important is parent involvement and parents actually caring about education?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=202.0,214.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I would say that that's probably the single most important element in, in education. I think that when a child is growing up, it's important for parents to be involved in that child's education to be interested in what they're doing, and to be encouraging of the work of encouraging encouraged children to explore the world around them. 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Can you tell us about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=238.0,260.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, after Of course, after I got my undergraduate degree, and obviously I had been a rather good student. And one of the faculty members recognized that I had some strengths and encouraged me to apply for a fellowship that took me to study in France for a year. And that was an experience that broadened my horizons tremendously and provided the basis really for my believing in myself and being able to try translate that belief into interaction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=261.0,292.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: So it was really the experience in France that sort of clicked in your mind that there's more to your life than just finishing college and getting a job.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=293.0,298.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I I think that was a an important key because for the first time I was perhaps I realized, in a real sense that there was that there was more that was possible for me than just simply graduating with a bachelor's degree and teaching in elementary or secondary school. Good as that was, there were additional possibilities for me. And I recognize that as a result of that, that selection,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=299.0,323.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: the other big move in your life, conceptually, really was was the move from being a professional educator scholar to being an administrator. Tell us about that. And why you chose that route.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=324.0,335.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I'm not so sure that there was anything that I chose, it just happened, that I fell into that I had been a faculty member in the Department of Spanish and Portuguese at the University of Colorado. And I was, I've always been interested in good teaching and in the, the undergraduate experience, and I had an opportunity to be the chief developer for a brand new program down in Texas, and I was selected for it. And I went for that. And so I started off as a program development specialist, but I very quickly fell into an administrative role in connection with that position, and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=336.0,371.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: can eventually lead you to the presidency of Colorado State University than the University of Houston downtown. And then a big, big jump to the University of Arizona. explain to us why the Board of Regents in your view thought you were ready for this job?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=372.0,387.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, I think that there were a number of factors that might have played a role and that, first of all, the fact that I had been successful at two different two very different universities as President, without and highly successful, I think was an indication that I knew the the way that higher education institutions worked. Secondly, the fact that I had been at the whole spectrum of institutions all the way from very small to very, very large, in different roles also showed that I had an acquaintance with, again, the whole spectrum of a higher education. But Thirdly, I believe that it was the the fact that I had been so interested and successful in developing undergraduate education programs without necessarily separating them or divorcing them from the role that a university plays in research. And so that they saw that there that I could, that I had, that there was a balance in, in my own view about the different roles of higher education. I think there was Those were all instrumental in that selection.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=388.0,453.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Do we need to break right now when I come back to the thought about undergraduate education in just a moment, and now we hope you'll stay with us on Arizona alumni forum. We'll be back in about a minute and a half.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=454.0,554.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Thanks for staying with us on Arizona alumni forum J. Rocklin here with you talking today with President Manuel T. Pacheco of the University of Arizona. Dr. Pacheco during the selection process which took place over the summer, it seemed like it took forever to those of us in Tucson watching it. The selection committee got down to a pretty high powered person from UCLA, another from Northwestern still another from UCSD is the fact that they selected you as signal to Arizona's that the region's wants to place more emphasis and give a higher priority to how we treat our undergraduates.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=555.0,591.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: It was very clear to me in the selection process that that was one of the priorities that the board was emphasizing as well. As students and a large number of faculty, even a large number of researchers were concerned, not so much about whether whether undergraduate education was was important or not, but the fact that that many of the top researchers were perceived as not being interested in undergraduate education. And I think that that was an important consideration because I was able to, to talk about the fact that research and undergraduate undergraduate education should be complimentary, rather than then dichotomous. And I think that was an important consideration for for a number of different groups","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=592.0,635.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: can realize that you've only been on board, gosh, two months or so and still learning the school learning the culture learning Arizona. But the fact is that you've come into a very difficult situation with respect to finances. With respect to the legislature, we've got a fairly rigid formula funding process for all three universities. I mean, what can one man really do that's different?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=636.0,658.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I'm not sure that we need to worry about whether it's different or not. But rather, we need to worry about whether what we do is effective. Okay. And the approach that we use, and each of those different objectives, I think, has to be looked at,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=659.0,673.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I guess, I'm asking you, is it possible to do a better job for Arizona's undergraduates?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=674.0,678.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, I think it it very clearly is possible to do a good job for graduates. Well, one of the things that I believe strongly is that it's not the President, it's not any of the vice presidents or any Dean or any single individual who by himself or herself is going to be able to solve that problem. I think what it requires is bringing together all of the those people who are interested in that and coming up with a common approach to resolving that problem to the degree that it exists. Secondly, I think it's important to recognize that, in some respects, it's a, it's a perception that undergraduate education is not emphasized rather than the reality. For example, I was interested in finding out to that, contrary to what I had heard that, that the classes were all very large at the university, I was very surprised when I found out that 84% of the classes at the University have fewer than 50 students, and 64% have fewer than 30. And that has been by design. And it's a it's the result of a good deal of work that has been done over the past couple or three years. Now, obviously, that means that there are still some classes, which are very large. But it's not nearly in the proportion that that the perception would suggest. So one of the things that we need to do then is to actually look at what the what the facts are sure, where classes are too large. And I have no doubt but at some of them, maybe then we need to look at alternative ways of delivering those educational services. But ultimately, I think it's going to be a matter of getting some of our best minds together to determine what the best approach is going to be to make sure that undergraduate education is emphasized. And that it's emphasized not the expense of the research agenda that we have, but in conjunction with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=679.0,786.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: How about problems? that specific problems that don't really have to do with class size? I met a young junior senior today that is a poli sci major got into one of three poly psych classes he tried for what can we do about that kind of thing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=787.0,803.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, it's, it's always interesting to hear some of the stories that exist about these kinds of matters. I don't think that the the university necessarily has a responsibility to provide every class for every student on demand. Okay, I think what we need to do, however, is to provide to have an advisement system that is going to provide alternatives to students so that they can continue in a in an acceptable manner to fulfill their their degree requirements. And if they can't take all three of those policy courses this semester, and if they can take two of them this semester and one the next semester, then the objective is still been reached, it's not possible to provide 100% of the courses on demand. Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=804.0,848.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Let's get abstract for a little bit. How do you view leadership?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=849.0,854.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, it's many people view leadership as as something that's that's very personal. And that maybe even be that maybe depends on on charisma. I don't think I think that it's important to to, to be sympathetic and to be understanding of the problems that exists. But ultimately, I think that leadership depends on the ability to, to convince other people that a certain direction needs to be taken, but that together, you decide on how that direction is going to be followed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=855.0,887.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: How about in choosing people to work with you putting together your team, what qualities we look for","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=888.0,893.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: the the qualities that I would obviously need to look for would be first of all breads. of experience in higher education with a depth also that illustrates that that individual himself has been successful in in a particular field of endeavor, but that then that, that, that depth doesn't necessarily that that that depth can be translated to, to being able to work with people from various other fields. If a person is, is in the biological sciences, that individual needs to be able to understand the advantages and the qualities of people who are in the humanities, for example, so the person has to have a broad based but also an in depth preparation in their field, plus an understanding of the decision making process and, and also the ability to, to relate to other people who may have different points of view and being able to translate those points of view into your own agenda.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=894.0,954.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: There's some specific issues I'd like to get into when we come back in just a moment, Dr. Pacheco, but in the meantime, we need to break and we hope you'll stay with us. This is Arizona alumni forum, Jay Rocklin. here speaking with President Manuel, keep a check with the University of Arizona. We'll be back in a minute and a half.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=955.0,1061.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Hi, Jay Rocklin here speaking with President Manuel Pacheco of the University of Arizona, thanks for staying with us. Dr. Pacheco, let's get into some specific issues in higher education in general, they have to do with the U of A but all schools also. Many people ask whether or not it's time to do away with the tenure system as it outgrown its usefulness. We're not firing teachers because of their political views. And some people feel there's a lot of Deadwood, we need room for new new faces. How do you come down on tenure?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1062.0,1092.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I think it's one of those customs that exists in the university that is absolutely central to the to the university. While there may not be have been very many dismissals of tenure people in the last several years, I think it's because of the tenure system that we have. Now, undoubtedly, as is the case in any enterprise, there are some people who may not be performing up to the standards that we would expect them. But you also have to keep in mind that over a several year period of time across this country that college faculty have not been recognized for the good job that that they do. And sometimes faculty members is just as anybody else would might become discouraged. And I think it's up to us to find incentives for faculty who which are not necessarily based on monetary, monetary basis. But I think it's important for us to recognize faculty when they do a good job in teaching when they do a good job in research, and to reward them for that, to the degree that we can. Tenure is one of those elements that I think is indispensable for that to continue that tradition and that excellence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1093.0,1170.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay, there's a question of open access versus restricted access. All three universities and the regents are talking about capping enrollment, while at the same time talking about making the universities more accessible for diverse populations. And it seems intuitive that we can't be Michigan and say the University of Houston at the same time. How do we solve that apparent dilemma?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1171.0,1194.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, I think that Arizona is is very fortunate in that it has a Very good community college system that is able to accommodate students who may not be as well prepared as they need to be to be successful in the university environment and which then allows the universities to be more selective in their in their process in there in to the, the select the selectivity becomes less important than when you have a dual system, because there is an alternative right now, at the university in the University of Houston system where I came from, for example, there were four or five different universities, the University of Houston was a highly selective University. But there were other institutions within that system, which were highly accessible. And the difference between those two institutions is not one of quality, but one of the degree to which you have to provide the support services for the students to be successful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1195.0,1254.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Let me understand your so are you suggesting that you support higher academic standards for entrance to the University of Arizona? Should the demand be there and not necessarily my hearing? You're wrong?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1255.0,1264.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: No, that's absolutely correct. Okay, I think that it's important to have high entrance requirements for the university. At the same time, I would hasten to add that there needs to be access in in some manner, whether it's at the University of Arizona through special programs, or through the community college system that allows students who may not have have yet been successful, but who have the potential and the motivation to be successful, to to have an opportunity. And so it has to be I think we have to have an Arizona a system of education that makes it possible for us to immediately get into the education process with our brightest and the best and those who have already been successful. But not forgetting, though those who are still in a developmental stage, but who have every foot but where we have every reason to believe that they're going to be equally successful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1265.0,1317.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Right now the Board of Regents is wrestling with the potential problem of how to accommodate say, another 15,000 students by the year 2000. In Arizona. One alternative among many that folks just talk about is the idea of a State College system. There's a huge gap between the community colleges and a research one university like the University of Arizona. Is Arizona ready for a State College system? Whereas would that be a bad idea? Because it would split the pie to many ways?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1318.0,1344.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, I think that it's premature to be considering that kind of a system at this point. I know that there are a number of people who would disagree with that, but the state is still relatively small. And until until it has, I would say double the population that it has right now. I think it would be a mistake to try to, to divide the state up in a in a different manner. Now, California has a three tiered system and it works well for for that state. How about Texas, Texas has a multi tiered situation, but it's not. It's not nearly the same as as California it doesn't have a state university system in using the same model that California does.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1345.0,1386.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay. So why doesn't that make sense for Arizona then?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1387.0,1388.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, at this point, it doesn't make sense for Arizona because the population base just simply isn't there yet. The it's an almost ideal situation in that we have one major university per million population, and it's pretty much accepted across the country that that's almost an ideal state to be in. As the population in Arizona grows, then I think that some other configurations could be considered but I think it would be a serious mistake at this point to do that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1389.0,1414.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: need a break one more time on Arizona alumni forum back for a final segment in just a moment. Hope you stay with us. This is the final segment of Arizona alumni forum today. Thanks for staying with us. I'm Jay Rocklin, the editor of the obeys alumni magazine here with Dr. Manuel Pacheco, the University of Arizona's new president. You've been in Tucson? What, two months roughly? At the University since school started, I guess you really got going around July. Tell us about some good times. What what's been your most pleasant surprise overall?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1415.0,1537.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, I think that the, it really hasn't been a surprise. But it's been a reaffirmation of the tremendously high quality of the university. And perhaps one of the surprises would be that the university is much, much better than what a lot of people recognize. It's been, it truly is an outstanding institution.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1538.0,1556.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Is it a bigger job than you thought it was going to be? Or did you pretty much have a feel for what you're getting into?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1557.0,1560.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: No, I had, I don't think that there's been any surprise, in that respect. No, none at all. The The university is larger, but the city isn't. And some Houston being able to maneuver in Houston was a big job","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1561.0,1575.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: and also being able to maneuver around Texas politics, make this look small time? Are you seeing any big challenges that you could can really articulate?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1576.0,1584.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Oh, there are going to be a lot of a lot of challenges, just simply because","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1585.0,1589.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: what's gonna be tough to get your hands on,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1590.0,1590.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I think it's going to be really tough to to, to get around the issue of financing for higher education in your state. We're pretty far behind. In many respects, if we compare ourselves to other universities that we do compare ourselves with, we get about half of the funding. We're the University of Arizona, we need the state we the University of Arizona, for comparable universities. Now, I don't know whether I can say that make that same statement about all the other institutions in Arizona. I suppose that you could if you consider that all of the institutions were equally excellent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1591.0,1626.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay. Well, we're they're all excellent in their own way, obviously, but they're certainly excellent in different ways to let's lighten up, you've been quoted as saying that you're a basketball fan, you came for the rights to the right school for that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1627.0,1640.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, I think I think I did. And I'm looking looking forward to that. I've, the couple of conversations that I've had with lute Olson have been very encouraging.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1641.0,1650.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: What about sports? That's both a good news and bad news situation, mostly good news. But some people do criticize all universities for being too sports oriented, and letting that take attention away from actually educating young people. What do you think?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1651.0,1663.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I think that's a that's an important consideration. The guideline that I use is whether the institution is is better known for its academic programs or for its for its athletic programs, if if the first thing that comes to your mind is the athletic programs, then there's too much emphasis on like Ohio","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1664.0,1680.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: State schools like that USC, how about us, we're away,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1681.0,1685.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I think there's a very good balance. Because at the same time that we can talk about excellence in our athletic programs, we can also point to anthropology and optical sciences and a number of different areas that are excellent in the academic areas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1686.0,1699.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay, we're taping this at the end of, of August, again, barely been on board. You've seen problems. Imagine every time someone gets a hold of you, they articulate another problem. Are there any new initiatives that you've put together that you could share with us to try and solve some of these problems?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1700.0,1716.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, I know that there are going to be a number of things that need to be done. But I think it would be it would not be advisable for me to get started on anything until our faculty gets back. And when I'm able to consult with the faculty leadership,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1717.0,1728.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: that's an interesting point you bring up because a big issue during pretty much all the coffee years, especially the second half, has been the entire notion of faculty governance. Can you take just a minute and explain to the people watching today, just what faculty governance is and your view and how you plan to deal with the notion during your presidency?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1729.0,1748.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, universities are different in that the faculty have and should have a large role in making determinations about where the university is going, what its curriculum is going to be, what its priorities are. And the faculty has a a setup, governance setup that allows them to participate in the major decisions and the major policy decisions that are in the university. And to the degree that we ignore that structure, then to that same degree, I think we weaken the university.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1749.0,1781.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: So it is your intention to include faculty as much as you can in all facets of the universe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1782.0,1786.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: There's absolutely no question about it because the faculty is hard of the university.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1787.0,1789.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Great. Dr. Pacheco, it's been a pleasure having you with us today and again, on behalf of the entire state of Arizona, especially the Alumni Association of the University of Arizona, we're glad to have you with Listen, hope you stay in Tucson is long, prosperous and good for the entire state.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1790.0,1804.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, thank you. I'm looking forward to being here a long time. Great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1805.0,1807.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: This has been Arizona alumni forum brought to you by the 140,000, members of the University of Arizona Alumni Association and this station. I'm Jay Rocklin editor of the University of Arizona's alumni magazine, hoping you'll join us again next month on this station. Thanks for being with us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912#t=1808.0,1810.0"}]},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1078/collection_resources/73617/file/159912/transcript/37812/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/037/812/original/azu_ms646-055_a.vtt?1652906023","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/037/812/original/azu_ms646-055_a.vtt?1652906023"}]}]}]}