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I trip through history as we experienced it, and remember it. I trip through Living History. Professor HN, who was a veteran of a half century of Arizona journalism will be your guide. You will visit with some of the state's most important personalities and your neighbors who are eyewitnesses to history. Today's guest is Douglas holsclaw former state Senator.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=34.0,130.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Welcome to eyewitness to history. Our guest today is a man who has made history as an Arizona legislator, a philanthropist. And I'm sure he ranks as a number one booster of the University of Arizona. Senator Douglas Holtzclaw was born in Idaho in 1898. Came to to sign in 1921. Senator tell us what brought you to to sign then?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=131.0,156.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, after 25 months and veterans hospitals in California, following World War One in which I contracted that very severe, in that very severe epidemic of 1918 went into tuberculosis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=157.0,176.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: That was the flu epidemic and then developed into tuberculosis TB.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=177.0,180.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: So I just felt that I could get in should get into a drier climate, warmer climate, it was so rainy and damp. So since I was to be even if you in those days, if you had a high school diploma, and you were a direct service connected world war one veteran, you could go to school at the expense of the federal government. So since I qualified for that, and Arizona seem to be the logical place to come, I decided to come to Tucson,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=181.0,223.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: you went to school, but then when you began to feel a little better, you went back to tried Harvard Medical School. And once again, you became ill. When did you return to Tucson, Doug?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=224.0,232.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, in 1927, that was after getting my degree BS degree in chemistry at the University of Arizona. And when he the Harvard scholarship from the state of Arizona, in 25. Then I, of course, went to Harvard, which was probably a big mistake. And because of that climate, you had a recurrence of your Yeah, just problems. And back to Tucson. In my third year back there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=233.0,266.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I want to turn back to your days at the University of Arizona. It was a small campus, how many students and what was it like to be a student on the campus in those days,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=267.0,275.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: well known in the fall of 1921 950 students. And if you were to try to compare it with a campus of today, you'd have a very different time to try to find. But it was small and of course it had qualified as a land grant college and so had to have a college of agriculture and engineering and offer military training. So those were the features. I would say also because it was a small school, but mainly because of the climate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=276.0,317.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: You say you studied chemistry at first had you plan to go into the field of chemistry, or a Joey's thought about law?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=318.0,325.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, the law didn't come into picture until after I had broken down and spent seven more seven years in hospitals after my breakdown at Harvard. But that was the course. In order to plan for Pfeiffer on a scholarship to Harvard, you had to have your science courses, particularly if you were planning on trying for the College of Medicine. And so that was a requirement I had enough units for either a degree in chemistry or in biological subjects.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=326.0,367.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: So you would hope then perhaps to go into the field of medicine, when you became ill, that's scrub that obviously had the right chemistry at one time or another for the field of politics. And we'll get to that a bit later. But, Doug, you were extremely loyal as a student University of Arizona. And as I recall, you wrote a fight song that to this day you here in Arizona stadium and in McHale activity center, fight Wildcats fight. Now, we haven't had too many great singers on this program. Why don't you give us a verse or two from that great piece? shall open it up for you and give us a bit from the course I think that'd be great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=368.0,409.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay, the the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=410.0,415.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: write down right down here the chorus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=416.0,419.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: fight wild cats fight for air rose. Oh, now we wish you everstone Chandru. This day we hailed you and we cheer you. They can't defeat the red and blue. Circle the ends and Christ through center. Hit hard and gain on every play. Fight. Wildcats Fight Fight Fight will win to day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=420.0,446.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Fantastic. We'll we'll put that down as a memorable vocalist appearance on this program. Now, as I understand it, when you first ran for politics, you were still ill, and you were still in bed. Right? How did you finish in a political career while you were in bed?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=447.0,468.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, it was in 1930. And at that time I was had been requested by the Tucson Republican organization to rent of course, they knew there was no chance of my winning, because in those days, the registration was about three, four or five to one in favor of the Democrats. And this man that was in office was from ah who I'm trying to think of his name. But anyway, they thought that because I was a a veteran and disabled veteran and there was many veterans in Tucson at that time, and also had been a yellow leader on the campus in my third year in the university and became very well known in the publicity from winning the harbor scholarship that I would be have a chance of winning. Good. We'll come back no campaign, they said so we'll","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=469.0,531.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: get to stay in bed. All right, we'll return to that started your political career just a moment we'll take a break now. Doug, let's get to your political career. When you were elected to our state legislature, you served 14 years as state representative and then eight more as a state senator. They were busy days but weren't they very happy days for you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=532.0,599.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, yes, exceptionally so because first of all, I defeated for running for office, the man, Robert Forbes, who had been up there for 14 years without competition. He was the dean emeritus of the College of Agriculture at the University of Arizona, and 85 years of age. So those things taken together, I thought that I would have a chance. Besides that I had been manager of a city, Mayor City Council right in campaign in those days, and so darn many such a plurality of registered voters, a Democrat that you couldn't publicly run against them, the Republican just didn't have a chance. So we conducted this right in campaign, I was a manager of it. And by golly, we came within 250 votes of winning. So I thought that Trump would have a pretty good chance taken all those things together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=600.0,659.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: And when you got to Phoenix, you had a fabulous record. You're honored widely for your work there for all the bills you had introduced and gotten passed. I'd like to ask you, what did you really consider your greatest accomplishment in your legislative careers?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=660.0,677.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, as I looked back on it, I think it was perhaps, because it was my strategy that succeeded in defeating as you for in obtaining the College of Medicine. Before the university. It was we had already had what we call the Volcker report, that had been set up by an appropriation of the legislature with the help of some foundation in Massachusetts. And they study was made of the state of Arizona, as to whether or not Arizona needed a medical school, whether they could afford it, whether they had the resources to continue it, and where should it be located. That was the questions of the Volcker report. And I had the satisfaction of course of helping to get that particular appropriation through the legislature, which made possible the Volcker report. And then, of course, the big fight came at the very end of a session where the Maricopa County legislators tried to sneak in a motion right before the adjourning signed the die on to the general appropriations bill. Which to delete the item of $160,000, from the region's appropriation to plan out elect or the name of Dean to plan the College of Medicine. There's where the battle started.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=678.0,777.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: So it was Maricopa really versus Pima County, wasn't it? Right. And of course, they had the numerical strength legislature. So your battle was really a tremendous fight. Doug, I wanted to ask you an interesting question. This is a day we're running for offices, tremendously costly proposition. And yet, as I recall, you did not take money to run your campaigns, not even from your own party. Is that correct?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=778.0,802.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: That's correct. I did not conduct a a campaign, the only thing that I did was to get out of what I considered was a very effective,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=803.0,814.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: one of your little folders. Yes. But you did this even at your own expense, didn't you? at my","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=815.0,818.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: own expense? Sure. But I did not except I did not want to accept funds, because I felt that to do so. You would be obligated to that person, which is certainly true. You have to be very careful and cautious about accepting donations and so forth. Because later if you are asked to support a certain bill or to take a certain stand, you're in a position that peculiar position.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=819.0,849.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, Doug, then how do you look at the campaign's today when our governor's race, each candidate will spend over a million dollars for a campaign? I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=850.0,856.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: knew it would be difficult for me. Would you not","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=857.0,860.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: run under those circumstances? If you had to take","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=861.0,864.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: it? I presume that I would succumb to the general procedure that is in effect today. And if this was in effect with all of the others, and I found that I had a very tough campaign, I probably would have to necessity if I agreed to run for office, but there were days I just did not feel that was the thing to do. I felt that I had a terrific background. Probably better than any of my other Are legislators. And I was independent anyway. In my eight years in the Senate, I didn't have a Democrat opponent. I just had the independent, which was really","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=865.0,913.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: rarely at that rare. You were often known in the legislature is the gray fox, how did you get that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=914.0,920.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Done? Well, I always made it to practice in any bill that I sponsored that I would get both Democrats and Republicans on that bill that would sort of obligate them to a certain extent to, to support that bill. And frequently, I would go on some of the bills that were being introduced by the Democrats, in order to keep goodwill. And I made it a practice to be very friendly and sociable with both parties, a lot of times, I did not go along with my own party, stand or position that they took in caucus on the floor, if I felt that they, their position was not right, I did not go along with it. And that caused some problems within my party.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=921.0,978.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: But you really were a diplomatic person in the legislature. And I know why they called you now the gray fox and we'll take a break right now we'll be back in just a moment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=979.0,1033.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Doug, your career has really been remarkable. And as I recall, at the age of 51, you went to the University of Arizona, as a part time student in law was that to better prepare yourself for your legislative career?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=1034.0,1049.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, that that was what I did originally, before running, because it was in 1952, that I ran for the legislature. And that was in against Robert Forbes. And I just felt that since I didn't have any legal background, that that was a sensible thing to do. And so I did sign up for law study, and had about five or six years of part time, didn't try to call carry a full course. But I did succeed in, in getting through all of the subjects for a law degree, except to rent rooms, Legal Ethics and evidence and about three electives. But long claim they long tenure in the legislature, and so I just never have had a chance to go ahead and finish.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=1050.0,1109.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Didn't you author something like 200 or more bills while you were up in Phoenix,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=1110.0,1113.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: we guess, right. I always introduce more bills than any other legislator.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=1114.0,1120.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Remember, you were considered to be one of the busiest legislators.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=1121.0,1125.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: And I had very good luck in getting my bills enacted, because as I stated before, I always had a sufficient number of Democrats on those bills, along with my dad I sponsored, and I had, they helped me out in their respective committees to which whichever committee that bill was assigned, I always made sure that there was a few of the Democrats that are on that bill,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=1126.0,1155.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: as you watch legislators working today, is there a difference in legislative operation than when you were in in office?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=1156.0,1163.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, I think that they are probably more centered in each of their respective caucuses. I didn't permit myself to be 100% committed to my own caucus, that didn't sit too well with my party. And they even ran the person against me. At one time in the Senate, and I got out and work. I didn't have any Democrat opponents. So I had to get out and work like the dickens against this person and I defeated him two and a half to one in the primary. After that they left me alone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=1164.0,1199.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Are you saying that you felt that it was pirate party loyalty had to be second to doing what you felt was best for voters?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=1200.0,1207.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, for the most part, I went along with my party. But I felt that I had had, and University of Arizona education, Stanford, three summers, Harvard, two and a half years, 1011 years in business, as an owner of the Pima realty company. And with all of that background, and then nearly six years of part time law, that my judgment was better than any of those others because I had a much better broader record. And they, there was a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=1208.0,1245.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: very independent view, which did not always hold well. I want to ask you now about your feelings towards University. For most students who go to university, whether it's University of Arizona, or other schools, go through their years of education, graduate, and outside of maybe a small gift once in a while, or going back for homecoming, they forget about it. But you have been a very loyal, and loyal participant of the University of Arizona for all the years. And I'm wondering, why have you continued to hold such a great interest in university, and why you have done so much for your alma mater?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=1246.0,1282.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, perhaps, in coming here to begin with, I think the I found this is where my health was restored. Of course, I was going to the university at that time. I was getting medical care from the university as well as the government. There was just everything. I mean, the professors that we had, that those days would spend more time every thing that I needed in the way of clearing up any questions, I always found that they were loyal. In those days, we had a Masonic club, and the campus and there are near every one of the deans of the of the college in masonry. It was even called a Masonic institution at the one time. And it was just so many other things that I found that they were so cooperative with any of the questions that I ran, I usually spent a certain amount of time with each professor to try to make sure I had a complete understanding of the subject.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=1283.0,1356.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: But the loyalty you had when a university had less than 1000. Students? Can that same loyalty exists today in a university with 30,000 students, or has it gotten to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=1357.0,1366.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: the 30,000. Now they hit for the most part, a great deal of the teaching is being done by instructors. Most of the professors are expected to do a certain amount of research. They do considerably more now, the all of the professors than they ever did back in my day. And so I don't think in fact is there's a certain amount of criticism right now that not enough of the professors are giving their time to the teaching, but too much time toward research.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=1367.0,1403.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Doug, you've been an inspiration to us, especially with your fantastic singing today. We might have asked you to do a little yellow leading for us today. But we'll hold that for another time. Doug, you've been honest with almost every award that the University of Arizona can issue and you've served the legislature, you've served the city. And I want to thank you for your good work. And for being with us today on eyewitness to history.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=1404.0,1433.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: You know, thanks to you is a pleasure and an honor to meet to be asked","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=1434.0,1437.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: and we hope you'll be back again with us next week. When I witnessed the history returns with another distinguished guest","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=1438.0,1445.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219#t=1446.0,1448.0"}]},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1978/collection_resources/74359/file/160219/transcript/38314/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/038/314/original/azu_ms685-012_a.vtt?1654116494","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/038/314/original/azu_ms685-012_a.vtt?1654116494"}]}]}]}