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Okay, so today I'm here with Ted Robinson. Mr. Robinson is a 23 year veteran in the Arizona National Guard. Some of his main roles were as a track vehicle repair, fuel or electrical system repair active Guard Reserve, also known as AGR supply sergeant, a motor transport operator and resident readiness NCO, he retired as an e7 otherwise known as a Sergeant First Class. Mr. Robinson, thank you for your time and the opportunity to speak to you today. All right, so let's go straight into the questions. So start off with a little bit about your background and early service. So first off, what motivated you to join the Arizona Army National Guard. Back in June of 1980","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=0.0,41.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: I joined right out of high school, and the reason I joined was because there was others that joined before me. Okay, my father was also in the Army National Guard, right? So I kind of had a role model. And I remember hanging out at the armories here in town and playing and being down there playing with the stuff that, yeah, all the equipment the dad had, and it was just one of those things that interest me. And I thought, well, for a long term, my dad's getting a retirement out of this. Why not? Why not do this as a career and absolutely try to collect that retirement? So,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=42.0,75.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: okay, yeah, sure, sure. So then you decided to join as a track vehicle repair and fuel and electrical system repair. That's correct, correct.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=76.0,83.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: All right. When I enlisted, I went into to a maintenance company as a track vehicle repair. When I came back from a it the I was only there for probably a month or two, and the unit lost that position, which put me over into fuel and electrical repair. So I went into fixing fuel injectors and alternators and things like that at the at the large shop they have up there. Okay,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=84.0,108.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: and so can you describe some initial training that you had and early experiences in those roles?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=109.0,117.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: I was I was young, I was enlisted. Then it's kind of right. It's I don't, I don't have a whole lot of recall until I went into the AGR program, and that's when I was doing it every day, before it was one weekend a month. And then that was just Yeah. It just seemed like a part time job to me,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=118.0,136.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: exactly, okay. And so then you transition to the active duty side as an AGR selective Guard Reserve. So in that was back in 1983 Correct, correct. And so what was that transition like from going, obviously part time in National Guard to full time, and how did those responsibility on a day to day basis change?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=137.0,158.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: I wasn't. I was no longer just a weekend warrior, doing one weekend a month. I was doing five days a week, wearing the uniform and on one weekend a month for the guard, right? It was, it was a big step. It was a career change. Yeah, of course. You know, I went from having a part I went from having a part time job with the guard and having a full time job outside the guard to this is my career every day now, right? And it, it was a good step. It was a good move,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=159.0,192.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: okay, okay. And is there anything specific that you remember, like when you did this transition, or like, oh shoot, like is actually happening, or just something that click in your head, like, hey, things are about to change big time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=193.0,208.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: Probably it clicked after that first paycheck when I realized what I was going, you know, getting into, what I was getting into, and that now this is the career I've chosen right those those positions back then were three year tours at a time. Okay, so you were always, you were always trying to strive to do your best so that you could get your contract extended. Okay, yeah, sure, even though I had a seven year commitment or obligation left with the guard, yeah, those, those positions were always three years at a time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=209.0,239.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: Okay, gotcha All right. And so then you, if I remember correctly, from your timeline, you started out as a material storage and handling specialist at the class four level, right Phoenix. It","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=240.0,253.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: was class nine. Class nine is, is weapons and automotive repair parts for the state of Arizona, so take a an AutoZone or an O'Reilly's right? And that's what I I worked in there. I was a warehouse man. I had a had a boss over me, an e6 over me. And we just would the the repair shops would get broken vehicles. They'd come to us, would fill the parts requests, give them their parts, if it was an engine or something that needed to go back to depot to be rebuilt, would take it back in, get it boxed and ready to be shipped out. Okay,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=254.0,290.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: so what was something like, big things from that role that you remember that kind of like, sticks it to you till this day. I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=291.0,300.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: Yeah, it was a good learning. It was a good learning step. I learned a lot about interacting with other people, not just civilians, but military people. Learned how to operate a lot of equipment. Yeah, you know, I would have never learned how to drive a forklift or a bus or other things, if I wouldn't have gotten to that got into that position and got that so","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=301.0,323.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: Okay, all right, and so moving on to leadership and the logistics portion of your career. So you moved to a unit in Tucson back in 1992 and you became the supplier Sergeant for the 2/22 transportation company. So obviously you went from going working at the class line shop in Phoenix to that position. What were some of the responsibilities that you gained during that transition to 22nd","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=324.0,356.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: it was an upward mobility. It was splice sergeants are e sixes. So that was my next step, right? Even though I had an e6 ahead of me, I knew he wasn't at class nine. I knew he he wasn't leaving, he wasn't going to be going anywhere. So I saw no upward progression there. So your next step would be going to be a supply sergeant somewhere in the same career field. Okay, so the unit in Tucson came available that was right around Desert Storm time. They had just came back from Desert Storm. Couple of the people there within the within the full timers, were getting promoted and moving out, and so that position came available. Okay,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=357.0,393.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: so it was like in their refitting cycle, I assume, coming back from Desert Storm, correct? Okay, okay. And obviously, that is a big, big, like moment in just military history. Is there anything that you saw during that time, like, specifically, obviously, as a storm, that were different than before going into that position,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=394.0,418.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: I don't know if there's anything really different. I didn't I didn't go to Desert Storm because I was at class nine. Being class nine, filled the state with all the repair parts. We also fed one of the largest we were at a transport we were in a maintenance company. Well, that maintenance company was responsible for getting everybody else's equipment ready to go that was deploying. So one of the biggest things that I felt I did when I got to that unit was I was able to take them from active duty back to guard status. Okay, so back to that TPU, Yeah, correct. So,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=419.0,456.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: all right, so then, obviously, then you switch over to the recruiting. I want to say company, or is that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=457.0,466.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: it's a recruiting, it's a recruiting. It's a recruiting and retention command, okay? I always knew I wanted to get to the Recruiting Command, just because, within the units, within the structure of a transportation company, you have a full time supply sergeant, you have a full time clerk, and you have a full time readiness NCO slash truck master. So that's the progression there. So the only other place for me to go as a six was to the to be a truck master. And I knew that guy wasn't going to be leaving anywhere, and I knew I could get rank in the Recruiting Command. Okay, so I thought, okay, at least my last I want it. My thought was, I want to spend my last six or seven years in the Recruiting Command before I get ready to retire, right? So that's why I moved to the Recruiting Command. I moved to the Recruiting Command because the the two, the triple Deuce transportation company, was deactivated. A lot of states will deactivate units and then years later, bring them back. For some reason. I have no idea why, right, but that happened, so I went to the Recruiting Command, got promoted to sergeant first class, okay? And then I moved from there to the back to a transportation company,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=467.0,546.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: okay? Later on, yeah, okay. And so tell me more about your experience at the recruiting company. And there's some of the things that you remember, like as far as challenges or successes that you personally dealt with back in those days in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=547.0,565.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: the Recruiting Command. You're kind of your own boss, kind of, okay, here's you go from, well, we always call that. You're going from hero to zero, you know? Yeah, mid month you may have three enlistments, and then you may not see anybody for another two or three weeks, right? Start. The beginning of the next month, you're back to zero, so you're starting all over again. It was more a like, I say, your own you or your own boss. You had to manage your time. You had to go out, hit the schools, make it work, right, and make it happen for you. It i. Yeah, it was fun being able to work with those applicants that I enjoyed working with, the ones that needed the help to get in, you know, like the waivers, the head waivers and stuff like that. That's what I I'm I usually would tend to go to just because they were the ones that I felt would probably not that others wouldn't be good soldiers, but they would put a little bit more effort forward if they if they had to overcome a hurdle before they got got to that point, right? So, but yeah, and then at 911 was the biggest surge I saw. People were just calling you, left and right. Oh, yeah, all those people that were were previously active duty, that got out or weren't doing anything today, I want to get back in and serve my country because of 911 right? So that was, that was one of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=566.0,650.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: the highlights, I think, I assume it was a very like high tempo moment in recruiting in general, correct? It was, yeah. And what was like, some of the most common jobs that you see people wanting to do back then, this is also just curiosity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=651.0,668.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: We had a field we had a field artillery company in Tucson. We had two transportation companies at that time. At that time, there was also an armored cab unit. I think a lot of people were wanting to come back in and get in the armor, to get into armored cab, and then with the aviation facility out in Marana, a lot of people wanted to go out to Marana. Okay, so I think that one was Marana, to me, was the hardest one to put people into, just because of all the extra qualifications, all the extra qualifications. One of the neatest experiences I had was I enlisted a young man out of California into the Arizona Army National Guard in Casa Grande. We had an ordinance battalion, right ordinance company. And that was that was interesting, because he had to go through a whole a whole lot of stuff. Yeah, he had to meet with a commander before he even did any got to maps to find out whether this commander is going to sign off on him, and as well. What did he tell you? He goes, Well, there's a lot of things I can't tell you that he told me, but he told me he needed to check me out because we could walk into a store and pick up stuff to make an ordinance if I needed to, yeah, or so we needed to know what kind of background he had, yeah,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=669.0,744.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: of course. So then all the security clearances and stuff, correct.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=745.0,747.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: Yeah, that one was definitely a challenge. Lots of lots of extra security clearances with that one, but it was a I always looked for the challenge, of course. So because you can always learn from from every one of those challenges on, yeah,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=748.0,759.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: and it gets you prepared for the next one, correct? All right, okay, so then you were promoted to sergeant first class in 1996 what did that rank mean to you, and how did it impact your your role as a leader within the organization that you were a part","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=760.0,781.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: of? Um, it was kind of, it hit the rank of a senior, NCO, you know, it's one of those things enlisted try to try to strive for, you know, I would have tried to go higher or made it further. It's just that, at the time in the AGR program, there's only certain so many certain spots available. And so it's not like on active duty, they got all these different spots. So that is where it was. I don't know it just it was sense of accomplishment, right? And something I wanted to, I at least wanted to be an e7","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=782.0,820.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: so okay. And I also asked, did anything that you learned throughout your time as like an e7 that made you into the leader that you are, that you were back then, or anything that you learned during that time that you you knew that made a difference back then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=821.0,847.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: I don't know that it was necessarily the rank as much, as much as it was a position i being, you know, being in the Recruiting Command for so many years and dealing with with people just just this last week, I ran into to a gentleman that I enlisted or they came that he came back off after active duty, did interview and did a did his time with us, and while he was with us, he transferred between a couple different units, and I would use him When I went out to the Pima County Fair to help recruit, okay? And I hadn't seen this guy in probably 30 years, right? And I just ran into him at Costco, and I looked at him, and he looked at me, and I go, you're a Lopez. And he goes, Yeah, we had a twin brother. They were both in the guard, right? And I asked him, Well, which one are you? Then he. He told me, and it was just, it was like, he goes, I wish I would have stayed in. He got out after. He got out after one or the two at one or two of the other conflicts that they went to. And he said, Life happened, and we I just needed to get out. He goes, but I wish I would have stayed in. Yeah, of course. So, and two days later, being here at the restaurant, I went to cater an event, and he was there. I would have never, of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=848.0,929.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: course, yeah, absolutely no. I it's, it's very, very often you you see a lot of those people where you know them for you know somebody that knows, somebody that you know, yeah, in the military is very, very small world. A lot of people don't, don't get that, but it is. And so obviously you, later on, you return back to the triple deuce. I said","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=930.0,953.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: I went to the four deuce, then for deuce, okay, yeah, I thought it was no,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=954.0,957.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: okay. So as the Four Deuces, this time transportation as a motor transport operator and readiness NCO, correct? And so what were your main duties in this position, going back, going back to a transportation company.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=958.0,970.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: When I went back to the transportation company, I took the position as the readiness NCO, like I said before every unit had a readiness a clerk, and so I was basically responsible for that full time staff. And then I was ready for I was also in charge of as a motor transport operator on the weekends. I was in charge of making, if, if a mission, we were a transportation company home bulk fuel, right? So if a mission came in and said, We need 50,000 gallons of fuel to go to here, my group of people that I was in charge of on the weekend would plan that route, pick the trucks and send those jobs out. So it was kind of a two fold position during during the week, you know, in charge of making sure that the training guys got people in for training at school, and the clerks got people in, getting paid, supply sergeants getting all the equipment needed, the meals ordered, and all that stuff. And, you know, just doing reports and things like","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=971.0,1035.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: that, right? And also, this is also a question out of curiosity, but that transition from the weekly duties to the weekend duties, obviously being AGR and the National Guard, what was that like? Transition like? Because it happens every month or so, you know. So what? What would you say was like a difficult hurdle to overcome. Every time that drill came around,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=1036.0,1061.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: it was then. It wasn't really a hurdle, but it would make it made for a long two, almost two weeks, because you, you would work. You'd work your regular five days, yeah. And then getting close towards that weekend, you would start mindset of, hey, I got to get all this stuff ready for the weekend. Yeah. Then you're going into the weekend, and then Monday, you're right back at it again, right until that till the end of that week. So it made, it made for a long two weeks. But then, I mean, looking back, we got to see people hadn't seen in a month. It was, yeah, you know,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=1062.0,1097.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: just making sure everybody's good there, yeah, he's doing well outside on this event side, correct wise? Yeah. Okay, sweet. So now we're gonna go into a little bit of reflection and just how you feel like you your service impacted whoever you are a part of, or whatever organization we're a part of. So looking back, which assignment or role do you feel was the most meaningful or impactful in your career?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=1098.0,1129.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: I think there would be two positions. First one would be the supply sergeant I enjoyed that was one of the one of the jobs I really enjoyed the most being able to to just interact with 200 troops on a weekend, you know, whether it was handing out gas masks for training or passing out, you know, ammo for live fire on the range, to being with these people being responsible, make sure They got food, clothing, you know, tools, everything they had. It was a, it was just a, it was an honor and a challenge to be able to keep all that up and going. And then the next one would be, when I got into the Recruiting Command, being able to help, help people make that choice, or the career to say, Hey, I'm going to do this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=1130.0,1177.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: Yeah, absolutely like, like you said before, like, all the people that had waivers and stuff and needed work through that's definitely a challenge. And I I was part of the recruiting process, like when I was in New York, and I could already tell, like, back then, it was such a hurdle, just being in Canada and stuff like that. It was very. Very hard, and I really respected my recruiter for that. And I'm pretty sure whoever you enlisted respected you for all the way that you did for them as well. So then now, obviously, you're out in the military for couple years now, and just want to know, like, how did your military service say shape your values, leadership, style, or outlook on life in general.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=1178.0,1227.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: I think it's helped us, especially with what we're doing now, for when we do large events, the organizational skills I learned, yeah. I mean, yeah, I don't I don't have a sock drawer anymore with rolled up socks. But it's one of those things that when they taught you to do that in organization and everything laid out to a certain way, that's kind of what we I've have in my life, and it was instilled on my children. You know, you're going to do something, do it right and do it, do it to the best of your abilities, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=1228.0,1257.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: And especially like, I assume, like working here at chess moves. You guys do a lot of catering events and correct a lot of people, lot of logistics, lot of just, I assume, a lot of things that you did as a supply sergeant just reapplied it years later into just business. Correct, right, right. Okay. And so obviously, now we're going to talk to your transition towards the civilian life. So obviously you retired back in 2003 and what was that transition like getting out of the military? Obviously, you're not going from just like being a part time soldier. You're going from being AGR working sometimes two weeks straight every single day. How that transition was for you, going back to this event sector,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=1258.0,1306.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: it was, as far as the Army goes, it was, I think it was an easy transition, you know, the out processing, they give me plenty of time off so that I could, I can take care of everything and get it, get it all set and get everything. Get everything set up. Go to, you know, go to out processing, get payroll set up. I think the easiest thing was knowing that I, I you know, whether I didn't have a job to go to yet, I had a check coming in, right? So I at least had that retirement check. I felt like being in the positions I had in the guard. I really didn't have a boss standing over me every day, right? So when I started looking for jobs, I looked for jobs that were similar, similar to that. I did some recruiting for an automotive Institute. For a while, I did merchandising in stores where I was, you know, stuff that I was my own boss. Own Boss. Yeah, so it was, I think, that helped out within, you know, the training from the military helped me out to do those things. But on the other hand, it may have hindered because, oh, I don't wanna say I got spoiled, but I was more used to working on my working on my owner by myself, then then having a boss tell me, Hey, you got to come in and hit the clock between this time and this time,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=1307.0,1392.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: right, right? And what were like some moments, especially, I assume this was early on, when you transition towards event sector, that you realize that, like, Hey, I gotta switch my gears a little bit and like, I'm back in swing sector, there are things that I used to do melted I can't do here. Like, what are some like instances that you remember of that happening back","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=1393.0,1415.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: then? I really don't know that I remember anything that really to relate to that it was, it was really a pretty smooth transition. I just, I mean, I don't","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=1416.0,1433.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: know, not a whole lot of instances where, like, Oh, I gotta maybe just, like, I said, switch gears a little bit and like, Okay, I can't do that, but I can't do this instead, and stuff like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=1434.0,1447.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: Um, maybe, if it had to do with the job I was looking for, you know, Hey, I gotta switch, I gotta switch gears. I can't do I can't do it this way. Now I have to think about doing it a certain other way. Okay, but","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=1448.0,1459.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: sure, alright, so then this is the final question for us, and it's a final reflection, kind of, what advice would you give to young people, anybody really, in general, that is considering joining the National Guard or the army in general today,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=1460.0,1479.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: if you're looking for training for a civilian job outside of the guard, if you know, like as a part timer, if you're looking for a job skill, the guard is a perfect place to go. The or if you're deciding you want to go active duty, the active duty. Is a good place to go. I would have some people, when I was a recruiter, come and say, Well, I really think I want to go active duty, but I don't know so well, come join the guard after you come back from basic and AIT, if that's what you really like, we can then get you hooked up with a recruiter to go active duty, if that's what you want to do. You know the guards not going to stop people from going on active duty afterwards. But if you went active duty and said, I don't want to do this. I want to go the other way, they're not going to let you do that until you've met your obligation there, right? I'd say, stick it. Stick it out. Yeah, you know, if you're, I mean, everybody joins for a certain reason. I'm either joining because I want college paid for and I'm looking for another career, and then I'm going to get out. But the young man I just ran into the other day, I got out after 12 years, and he told me that he's probably been out probably 10 or 12 years. He says, I wish I would have stuck with it. Yeah, you know. He says, I could use that. I could use that extra check right now. I would have stuck with it. So a big hurdle would be, if it's something you want to do, stick with it. You know, absolutely. So I had a friend of the family member, and he was in he wanted to join the Air Force, wanted to be a firefighter. And his mom and dad said, Why do you want to do that? And he says, Well, I look at TED, and I see, in two years, this was back then, he's going to be retired, he's going to get a paycheck. I want to do that. I want to be like Ted. And he's, he's he's still in the Air Force right now, probably got a few more years left, but he's doing what he wanted to do to get to that career point. So, Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, they're all good branches. Yeah. Everybody picks their branch, yeah. Just, I wanted to say, stick with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=1480.0,1620.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: Yeah. And the benefits you get out of it is obviously very, very good. I mean, you're still benefiting from your service being a retired e7 and obviously, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't change anything currently.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=1621.0,1636.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 2: No, I wouldn't. I've been retired longer than I was in now, yeah, so it's, it's, it's been a, it's been an excellent benefit for me and my family, right? Okay,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=1637.0,1645.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER 1: so just stick it up. That's it. That's a big advice. All right. Well, I appreciate it. Mr. Robinson,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727#t=1646.0,1652.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2980/collection_resources/153666/file/282727/transcript/81689/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: thank you. 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