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Today in our continuing effort to serve you, we have chosen a very sensitive subject that needs discussion. Child abuse, parental judgment is urged this program is for adults. Because of the depth of the problem. We are devoting two separate half hour programs to the topic. Today we will delve into the problem and next week we will discuss the law and the social service agencies and their efforts to help. We have used pictures of children at a local preschool and public school. We in no way intend to imply that these children have been victims in any way. Our producers included healthy children in happy situations to contrast the disturbing stories you will hear today.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=42.0,85.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yeah, quite a few. It's amazing once you finally start talking about how many of your friends are victims themselves, and how many are you know, devastated in their own way now? So it's kind of it's frightening to know that there are other people you will you hope and pray that you're the only one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=86.0,106.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Tina is not the only one. There are 1000s of others. The problem of child abuse, according to many authorities is getting out of control. Sister Kathleen Clark, director of the Casa de los ninos Crisis Nursery,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=107.0,122.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: in January this year, we turned away 200 Children, it seems unreal,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=123.0,127.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Carmen Presley Otto of Child Protective Services here in Tucson,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=128.0,132.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: we have not yet even began to, to really scratch the surface in terms of sexual abuse of children.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=133.0,140.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Dr. Aileen Yates, head of child psychiatry at the Arizona Medical Center,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=141.0,145.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I've been several questionnaires that have been handed out to college students, girls, and these are well functioning enough to be getting along okay in college. And the response is that 75% of them have had some kind of a sexual experience with an adult as they were growing up. But then when you look closer at the responses, you find out that half of those that said, Yes, we're actually saw an exhibitionist in an alley or were funded one time by a neighbor or something like that, and hadn't been of long standing. But the rest of them had had some kind of long standing relationship or repeated relationship with an adult most commonly the father or stepfather could have been an uncle or a grandfather or somebody of that order. And when we really boil down those statistics, it looks like up to about 10% of the girls in our community in our country are growing up with an incestuous relationship.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=146.0,197.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: This is Jackie.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=198.0,202.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: My My stepfather. Never had intercourse with me. He would convince me or somehow coerce me into having","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=203.0,231.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: into performing fellatio. And he would come into my room at night. And sometimes I would wake up and he would be feeling my breaths, or something like that. And I I always felt very guilty about it. Because it's a chat, I guess I was somehow about the idea that sex was not the right kind of thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=232.0,258.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Good afternoon. I'm Deborah Hastings. Today on closeup nine we'll take a look at child abuse. The problem of child abuse in Tucson transcends all social, racial and economic barriers. It's a problem that can touch a neighbor, a relative, even you. In the first of a two part series on child abuse. We'll delve into why abuse occurs, who the abuser is, and become acquainted with Tina and Jackie, both victims of sexual abuse as young girls. We want you to know at the beginning of these programs that our discussion will be frank and often explicit. On the other hand, we have all seen our share of photographs of added children, we felt it was not necessary to include those in this series. Physical mistreatment of children is certainly the most familiar form of abuse. A wide spectrum of abuse exists from the Tucson father who dunked his 18 month old baby into a pot of boiling water to the mother who loses her temper and hits the child just a little too hard. Both can be categorized as parents who are physically abused their children, and just a moment we'll discuss what child abuse is, and why parents abused their children.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=259.0,347.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: And when I was three, all I can remember as far as that experience is a lot of pain and a lot of blood everywhere. I mean, after that flashback came up, you know, I couldn't take showers by myself, because, you know, I would see blood everywhere, you know, in the water and everything because it was just the trigger of being in the shower, you know, and my mother saying, you know, going to beat the, the fear of God in me or whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=348.0,374.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Where does discipline end and physical abuse begin? Certainly, we would all agree about the end of the spectrum that includes Tina, and the experience she just described. But how about the other end of the spectrum, the part of the problem that gets closer to our own lives, many people are surprised by what the experts agree on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=375.0,396.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: We see a lot of abuse in the supermarket, you know, you see a woman dragging her child down the aisle and yelling at him and yanking at the arm and telling him you're stupid, and why did I ever have you? Well, it's a form of abuse,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=397.0,408.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: your truly abusive parents probably comprise maybe 10% of the referrals that we receive. And I'm talking about parents that where you have the truly battered child where you have childhoods burned, or the bones are broken, or the skull is fractured, or, or a child who's dead. The average kind of referral that we receive are, many of them are from parents who do not realize that they cannot spank their children and leave bruises on their bodies. I know that years ago, this was if you left weld marks on your child's bottom or legs, it was considered a good sign of, of a parent that who was doing their their job and what was expected of them. And in this day and age, the law is defined differently. Discipline is not intended to be a method of teaching a child where you hurt him, but rather discipline should be intended to get the attention of the child. And Legally speaking, when you leave bruises on a child that's considered abuse. And in those situations, what's required is for us to go in there and talk to the parents. Explain to them how the law is defined, and that this is considered abuse. Many of them are shocked to find that this is the way it's defined, at least in the minor aspects and are open to other avenues of display their children other alternatives that we give them in the interview.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=409.0,502.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Who is the abusive parent. Again, the spectrum is as wide as the different manifestations of abuse itself. The abusive parent can come from any economic or educational background, can be their mother or father, or can be of any race or religion. But there are some things abusive or potentially abusive parents have in common,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=503.0,525.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: you truly abusive parent is one who lives under great stress. Perhaps there are many financial problems,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=526.0,536.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: emotional problems in the sense that they perhaps they can't relate to their own spouse. They're isolated from family, friends, neighbors. More often than not, there's a history of, of physical abuse in the past as children themselves,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=537.0,561.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: that's classically been described as, as a parent who's very isolated. They don't have resources for themselves. They don't have people that they can call on for help themselves either within their own family group, their spouse or their other family members are not supportive of them. Or they have no other friends. One, somebody once asked a parent, if they had a phone and the parent, the mother said, No, why would I have a phone? I don't have anybody to call.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=562.0,595.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, these are usually individuals who are have been chronically depressed and who haven't been given much in the way of parenting themselves when they were growing up. And they react to stress by losing their cool and striking out. And of course, the child is the one that's a handy as sometimes does strike out at the least dangerous to strike at. So I remember one in particular, and this was a man who was working very hard, he had two jobs. And he also was a student over at the university. And he was just pushing himself all the time and his wife was at home, and really headed a lot easier than he did. But that was the way he wanted it, because he wanted to set up a very traditional family, Mr. religious family all saw, and he just pushed himself to the point where he was at the brink. And then he was alone with the baby at home. And the baby was crying and crying and crying, and he had a strep throat, and he needed to sleep and he needed to study for his exams. And then he just reached the point of no return, so to speak, and hit the baby and injured the baby severely,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=596.0,655.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I think almost any of us could. And probably have, from time to time had the impulse to hit a child or to to scream at them or to do violence in some way, when we get particularly frustrated. Most of us have enough control of our impulses, that that doesn't happen. Or we have you know, some parents go out and scream in the patio or, or they leave the child with a neighbor and they go off, do some shopping for an hour or something to kind of defuse the situation. But some of these parents have no ability to control their impulses. They haven't ever learned how to do that. Their own experiences, children themselves was one of violence being hit. That's just sort of normal. That's how you raise kids is something that's often said. They haven't had good relationships with their own parents so that they don't know how to do that. And they have a hard time that's part of their isolation is they don't know how to make friends. They and certainly don't know how to relate to a child.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=656.0,719.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I think given a certain set of circumstances all of us are capable of abusing our children. And I think to some extent, probably all of us who are parents have inflicted some kind of abuse on our","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=720.0,733.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: child. As DD Carroll, a sociologist at the Arizona Medical Center says, We are all capable of abusing our children. Whether it's saying something verbal, like oh, you stupid kid, are hitting the child so hard, he needs medical attention. The question is, when is the problem serious enough that a parent should ask for help.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=734.0,755.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: The punishment should not leave bruises should not leave signs of injury on the child, that the child should not be struck anywhere outside of the buttocks, for instance, not on the particularly not on the face or in the head. And that it should not be done with any instruments to use belts or cords, electric cords, other kinds of things to strike a child with I think is very inappropriate. I think if the if the problem of discipline is so extensive that that needs to be resorted to, there's a problem that needs to be dealt with why that's necessary. And if that kind of physical punishment is the only way a parent can control a child, then I think that parent does need help or the child does somebody does.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=756.0,807.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: All of the experts we spoke with agree that a parent should never leave a bruise on a child's body. But a more important warning signal is found in the parents attitude. When you're disciplining your child, is it for his benefit? Or have you lost your temper and need to strike out at another person? If the problem is your own, then you should seek help.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=808.0,847.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: My mother remarried again when I was five years old. And at the time, I was living with foster parents. But when my mother remarried, I went to live with my mother and my stepfather. I remember having some good times with him. At first, a lot of sharing things I distinctly remember him trying to teach me the alphabet and his his effect his bad negative effects on you, I feel were his sexual abuse of me, which started perhaps four years later at My parents have been married for about four years. 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Yeah, it got to a point where it was kinda like, take a number, you know, whoever night, whoever's night it was. So I don't know if they knew about each other. But I do know that they never ran into each other, but you know, by accident. And then it went from anything from you know, heavy paintings were established to, you know, political wars. With you know, each one had their own ideas of what would be a neat idea. My, my sister was banging on the door, one time, when one of these guys were raping me in a room when I was about must have been just 10. And I came shooting out and tried to talk to me and say, You know what happened? What happened is, I don't know, I don't know, I would just be afraid I knew I was hurt. And I could fail, you know, as far as physical payment as far as knowing what had actually happened, I didn't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=905.0,986.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: So sexual abuse is an area which is just started to come to the forefront. And the last, I would say in the last three to four years and recognized as a serious social problem. years ago, we regarded it as something of a rarity. That maybe it happened once in a million families or among a million people. And now we are finding that that kind of a figure was grossly underrated.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=987.0,1025.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I think that we've recognized an awful lot more especially about the incidence of incest than we did before. And we know that it's very common, it may be as much as five to 10% of the population","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=1026.0,1036.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: in 1979, out of 281 calls that we received it the rape crisis center 45%, were under the age of 18. Many times we will get calls, though, from women who have been sexually assaulted in adults. And when we are in the process of counseling them, we will find out they were also sexually abused when they were children.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=1037.0,1056.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Last year, in the year 1979, we received a little over 100 referrals in sexual abuse, we have not yet even begun to, to really scratch the surface in terms of sexual abuse of children. And the reasons for that are because it is a secretive kind of family dynamic and really depends on the victim herself to to bring it to the attention of helping agencies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=1057.0,1090.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: sexual abuse of children is a serious problem in Tucson that must be dealt with realistically, who is the person who must turn to children, usually his own for sexual gratification and why? I think he","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=1091.0,1103.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: is not like a devil or anything like that he was a human being. And he had his problems and our society or whatever, let him get away with a lot of things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=1104.0,1119.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: First of all, they're not social deviance. They are men who have had problems in relating to adult women. In the past, perhaps you've had problems in just making contact with another human being are having problems in terms of their own life crisis that they may be passing through at that moment in time. Maybe they're they're unemployed, maybe they're having problems on the job. Some kind of crisis occurs in their life to set the cycle in motion, they turn to the child who is loving to begin with loving, without qualification, like a spouse or a girlfriend or a lover would. And as well a child who will not reject them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=1120.0,1178.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: What we find is that very often the mother will withdraw her favors from the Father. And yet the father feels too constrained to go and find some outlet outside the home. And so he gets kind of directed toward or interested in the daughter. And the whole situation is very permissive for incest. And that kind of a man is different from the one who wields a belt. And is cruel and sadistic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=1179.0,1201.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I feel those people who often abuse our children, especially in incestuous relationships, which we classify as abuse and neglect are people who have lack communication skills, and often lack relationships with other adults or other peers in their community in their neighborhood or their community,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=1202.0,1222.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: they take the relationship that they have with their child, and they exploit it for their own needs in terms of trying to make contact, but adult contact with another human being","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=1223.0,1234.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: when the girl is pre pubescent under the age of 12. or So why the most of the time it's molestation more than half the time is just touching and feeling and fondling. And it doesn't involve penetration. After adolescence, it usually does involve penetration.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=1235.0,1251.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Usually, when a child is has been molested when there's a pattern of molesting starts anywhere from age five to age nine, okay. And the most common age is eight at the inception. And it continues into adolescence. Once the father breaks his own inborn, learned incest taboo, it becomes like a game it becomes. And when I say a game, a game in the sense of like two siblings or two, two peers who are engaging in sexual play. So in essence, what you end up with is the mother and the father coming down to the child's level, and with two children actually, at sexual play together. And this is perpetuated by some of the statements that Father will make to the child such as, don't tell mommy, this is our own little secret. This is our own little game, nobody else has to know. And at first, the child will be delighted in this sort of play with their father gets them attention. It gets them intimacy with their parent. But what happens later is that the child starts making a connection that, well, why can't I tell mommy? Well, why? If there's nothing wrong with it, why do we only do it when nobody else was around. And then the guilt starts to set in with the child.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=1252.0,1357.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: And what we find is that children who are under age 10 Have some kind of a hazy concept that it's bad. But on the other hand, the most important people in their lives are kind of saying it's okay, and so they accept it, and they kind of grow up with incest. But the older girl, the adolescent gets very, very upset. And he knows that it's very bad and does experience guilt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=1358.0,1380.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I can remember going to like a counselor's office, and not knowing why because whenever it happened, I would forget immediately, I was afraid to make close friends because then I might slip I might tell as far as schoolwork ruined it, you know, I mean, like I made fours and fives which you know, ds and E's or F's or whatever, which is, you know, just I could not function. As far as reading, I would go blank and I couldn't read. It wasn't until I got married to my husband, that I could even learn to read it was too devastating. To even you know, try. I would get you know, nosebleeds at school, you know, this kind of stuff that I was just so afraid somebody would find out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=1381.0,1450.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: As with physical abuse, the extreme cases of sexual abuse are not difficult to identify. As we were investigating sexual abuse, we found a case in which a doctor discovered large doses of male semen in a six month old babies vomit. In another case, gonorrhea was diagnosed in the throat of a six year old child. Few people would disagree that the children in these cases are Tina and Jackie whom we've heard from today are victims of severe sexual abuse. But for most people, the problem lies in the gray areas. Where does affection stop and sexual abuse begin? I think","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=1451.0,1490.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: normal hugging and kissing is fine. But I think that when an adult starts touching a child in the genital area I'm asking the child to touch them in a genital area. I think that becomes sexual abuse.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=1491.0,1506.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: In many ways it lies with the individual. Is the touch sexual for them? Does it does he end up with an erection because he puts his arm around his daughter. And what is happening inside of him, you know that this takes place. A father kissing his daughter on the cheek was certainly be appropriate, okay, or putting his arm around or giving her a hug. A father trying to French kiss his daughter is inappropriate, trying to nibble on her ear and stick his tongue in her ear or touching her breasts or pinching her bottom when she's 16 years of age. If he gives her a pinch on the bottom when she's three. That's one thing when, when she's 16, that's completely inappropriate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=1507.0,1553.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: In part two of our series on child abuse, we'll hear Tina and Jackie relate the difficult times they had being believed. Nobody would listen when they needed help 10 years ago, but today, the situation has changed. Next week, we'll tell you where you can go for help as a child or parent, where there are people who will believe you and will help.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=1554.0,1576.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I remember, like sitting home sometimes at night, and my mother being busy with whatever. Just crying all night. Because I felt sad and there was no one to turn to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=1577.0,1633.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Good afternoon, I'm Deborah Hastings. This week and close at nine we'll present part two of our series on child abuse. Last week, we talked about the problems of physical and sexual abuse of children in the community, and introduced to women who had been sexually abused as young girls. Although the problem of child abuse has been around a long time, help hasn't always been available, especially for the victims of sexual abuse.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=1634.0,1658.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: One, one of the biggest things he would do is tell me that if I told on him, that I would be as big as as bigger trouble as he would be. And I believe that, of course. And I thought that something horrible would happen to me if I told this big secret that we had, that my mother would hate me, and then nobody would ever speak to me again. And I wouldn't have any friends. And as a little kid, you know, those kinds of things are very convincing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=1659.0,1689.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Living as a victim of sexual abuse is devastating. But for both Tina and Jackie trying to find help left even deeper scars 10 years ago, they had nobody to turn to the people they trusted would not listen. And if they did would not take action.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=1690.0,1706.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: One of the most shattering things my wife was telling on him, and then finding out that nothing was going to come of it really that my mother got very upset when she found out and I told those people that I still had a relationship with that I had lived with before and they were very upset. I think I told them and they told my mother or something. And everyone was very upset. But within another month or two, that same old thing was happening. And I went","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=1707.0,1737.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: to one minister and he said, I told him that, you know, when I was little, I used to pray and my prayers weren't answered. Because I never got out things got worse. And he said, Well, you your prayers were answered. You didn't get pregnant and you didn't get venereal disease. I think he believed me but he just didn't. It was more than he could cope with. He finally had a special prayer and He says it's up to you. And a week later I saw him and he said you know things are getting worse. You're gonna do so well. It's because you're not you know, you're you don't have enough faith and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=1738.0,1768.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I never reported to any official people my mother. I you know, I expected my mother to take charge of the situation and to say don't ever touch my daughter and kick him out and stuff. But that never happened","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=1769.0,1787.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: you know, I? For a long time I've I've really had a grudge towards my mother for that reason, in some way. So you I'm sure that she felt guilty about it. And then she felt stressed by it, or whatever, crushed. But why she wasn't able to do anything about it, I don't really know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=1788.0,1816.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Many times the children will go to the parents, especially when they're young children, like say, 678, they will go to the mother and tell her what's been happening. And the mother will either put it down, play it down, or accuse her of lying, or just completely ignore what she has told her, because she can't, she doesn't have the strength to face. What what this child is telling her. Okay, she can't cope with it. It's very traumatizing to a mother to think that her husband prefers her child to her. It's very demoralizing and humiliating.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=1817.0,1855.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I just don't think that children know in that situation where to turn. I know, when I was growing up, if that ever came up, I wouldn't have known who to talk to. Fortunately, my mother was, you know, real open, I've had some experiences with adult men exposing themselves. And I felt comfortable, comfortable enough that I could go to my mother and tell her that I think some children are just embarrassed by it and don't know what kind of reaction they're going to get from their parents. And that's really important if if children do go to their parents, parents have to know not to overreact. Because sometimes the act itself isn't as devastating as the reaction from, from the family or from teachers or from a counselor, they have to know teachers and counselors and parents have to know to react in a real calm and matter of fact, way so that the child doesn't feel that, that what that their involvement in it, wherever that may be, is is is the negative thing. It's it's the the action of the adult. That is the improper behavior.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=1856.0,1916.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Not only is the action of the adult improper it is often illegal. Here in Arizona, there are new laws on the books profoundly affecting the way that agencies handled the problem in a moment a look at the law and how the Tucson Police Department and Child Protective Services deal with child abuse.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=1917.0,1949.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Child abuse and the law, always a controversial subject. On the one hand, people feel the law doesn't go far enough criminally, that all persons convicted of child abuse should go to prison. On the other side of the issue are those that feel psychological treatment of the abusing parent is the only real answer. There is one law, though that you may not be aware of that people on all sides of the issue seem to agree with the mandatory reporting law.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=1950.0,1977.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: That has been in effect since I believe 1976, which requires people such as doctors and nurses, school teachers, social workers, among others, and those individuals who have responsibility for the care of children to report suspected non accidental physical abuse or sexual abuse, neglect, emotional abuse,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=1978.0,2002.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: if we didn't have this law, doctors, nurses, other people that usually have a privilege would think that maybe they didn't have to report cases of child abuse. But the legislature says that, yes, every person doctors, nurses, social workers, school personnel, anyone who has care of a child must report to the authorities. Any suspected case of child abuse, sexual molestation or neglect. It's a good law because children who are the victims of child abuse or sexual molestation naturally, except the environment that they're in, very typically, the first person to justify child abuse, or to come up with an excuse to explain it away, is the victim.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=2003.0,2054.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: The mandatory reporting law to me has been very effective. It has brought the focus, which the law was meant is that we and I mean we as as the adult population, no matter what segment of society you're in, have a responsibility of protecting children. That's it, nobody else has. We can't We can't sit back and say I don't want to get involved. Because it's been proven in the past when you stand back and say I don't want to get involved. children die. The law is a good law because it protects the reporting party from any civil or criminal litigation against them if the report turns out that the the action To the injury to the child has an accident, as long as it was reported in good faith so as as long as you do it without malice, you know, you can't be held liable in any way for reporting, something that turns out to be an accident.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=2055.0,2112.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: If you have a younger sister, brother, this is happening to or if you know of a neighbor, you should shouldn't I don't think that the people should hesitate to report what they suspect, it's better to find out the truth about the situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=2113.0,2132.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: If you suspect a case of child abuse, or need help yourself, what should you do? There are several ways to go. You can find help at Casa de los Ninos, the rape crisis center, your doctor, the police department, or Child Protective Services,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=2133.0,2150.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: the reports come to us by many different means. More often than not, it's through the school or through a friend whom she has shared this with. Many kids will go to their counselors and tell them things such like I have a secret to tell you and Mandy's in trouble and she's having some problems and and I don't know what to do about it and I want to talk to you about it. And once that information comes out to the school system, by law, they are under obligation to report to us we would talk to the girl at the school. If she's available through the school system and get her story first find out what exactly is happening at home. We would call in the police and ask them to probably do a joint investigation with us. We do investigations jointly for many reasons. uppermost is that the girl doesn't have to repeat her story any more than is absolutely necessary. Okay, our second step is to provide for her protection and also to be able to speak to the siblings who more often than not Orioles so in school, and find out if anything is happening with them. If she's afraid to return home that evening, we will place her in a timeout, home or in a shelter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=2151.0,2249.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Until a few months ago the victim was generally permanently removed from the home. And the perpetrator was sentenced to prison under the Mandatory five year sentencing law for child molesters. But that can hardly be considered a solution. The victim was left feeling guilty for breaking up the family and the perpetrator receive little or no therapy while in prison. Now there was a new program underway. Parents united.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=2250.0,2274.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: If it was a molestation case, he would have to do a certain amount of time in Arizona state prison that was mandatory. We are working on a program right now to try and divert the first offender molester in house molester to a sexual abuse treatment program, which will hopefully less than the trauma on the child who has been the victim get a better understanding as far as why it happened with the spouse who was not the molester and also put the responsibility of the molestation where it belongs and that's on the individual who does the molesting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=2275.0,2322.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Under this new program. The procedure has changed in that the goal is to remove him from the home provided that criminal charges can be filed, get him removed from the home and enabled which will enable the girl to return home. And then we work on the Mother Child bonding there. If Also, it's important under this new program that we have somebody from parents United contact parents immediately to offer the support of the group and also to offer to let them know what has happened to them in terms of the criminal justice system and that there is another alternative for them and as opposed to imprisonment. In Florence. Parents United's is a self help group which whose members have been involved in sexual molestation of their children. The first chapter was started in San Jose, California some nine years ago and they found I found that through the self help group, that more effective means of intervention in the family, families who were involved in this kind of a problem, it was much more effective than your traditional kinds of intervention. The members themselves monitor themselves in many ways. They keep tabs on each other. They will report when they think there's a situation that needs the involvement of, of the agencies who are already involved with them. Here in Tucson, we have a parents united group already formed as a result of training which several members in the community have received to start such a program here. Half of the parents United aspect is the organizational part, which is run by the members themselves. And the other half, when we meet, has to do with the group therapy meetings, which are run by the professionals in the community. As well, they do a lot of helping of themselves, much like parents anonymous, has gained a reputation for in the past several years. Another aspect of parents United is that they help parents to accept the social responsibility of in terms of the criminal aspects of what has happened to the children, what they have done to the children,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=2323.0,2498.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: the county attorney's office is, at this point, generally supportive of the entire program. However, we are still formulating our policies of how we will interact with the program and what our policies will be concerning charges, and what plea agreements can be worked out in the various cases.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=2499.0,2517.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I think most parents want help once the incidents uncovered. Now, whether they want help to change your behavior, or they want help, because they're afraid of going to jail, that's something that they're going to have to make up their own mind. You know, it's amazing how many people want help when they get caught. But I think right off the bat, if you give the person the choice, you know, jail on one hand, and, and therapy on the other, you know, everybody's going to jump on the therapy, you know, I haven't had one yet that takes me off on on going to jail under those circumstances.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=2518.0,2559.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I'm a screamer and a yeller. And it had been a real bad morning, and my oldest boy was just running around yelling wasn't doing anything. And I told him to stop and he made a face and ran down the hallway and, and I ran down the hallway after him, and I was screaming and yelling. And I was gonna hit him. And I realized that, you know, I was blowing my cool and I stopped. And that's when I called help on call. And they referred me to some people to call for parents anonymous.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=2560.0,2597.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: If you feel you have a problem, or know somebody who does, there are helping agencies that you can go to. Carol is one of the several members of parents anonymous, a local self help group designed for parents having a difficult time raising their children.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=2598.0,2612.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: People hear child abuse, and they think that they're battered, and they're beaten and mutilated and all the gruesome stuff. And this, this is not the people we're trying to reach Sure, if we reach them fine. But by the time they've reached that point, they need more help than any of us can give them. We're trying to reach the everyday common working or non working person that has everyday problems. And we're trying to make them aware of themselves and to get them in so we can prevent all this other stuff. There is nobody around that cannot be classified as a potential child abuser, because let's face it, the kids can drive you up a wall. And unless you have really got a good hold on your life and yourself. You could hurt him without meaning to and nobody ever means to child, the child abuse. Some people come in. And right away, they jump in with their problem. Some people will come in, they'll sit and they'll listen. Will we each go around and talk about our weak good things and bad things. It's not always bad things. And then, you know, if the person wishes to talk, we'll ask them and if they say no, not, not tonight, that's fine. I've known people that have come to three or four meetings before they really ever opened up and The yet I've seen people come in and after we've gone around the group and they find out that they're not alone, they'll open up and from there on, there's no problems.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=2613.0,2708.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Parents Anonymous is a nonprofit agency. They do not charge dues and do provide free babysitting service. For immediate problems of a crisis nature. Casa de los ninos provides an outlet, Sister Kathleen Clark heads the agency, the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=2709.0,2724.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: the cost is a voluntary agency so that anyone, any child that comes to our door is eligible. There's no eligibility rules. It's a volunteer agency, and we're funded by private funds. And we serve any child any child whose parents are in a crisis, regardless of what the crisis may be. No, we've never charged anyone. We also don't accept donations from people who bring their children in. Because if you tell a person that you are free service, but we accept the donation, and they feel obligated to give you something. And our goal is to make it available for every child that's in need. And you might run the risk if you ever charge so when no one's ever been charged, since we're open about anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=2725.0,2771.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Do you have any plans to expand the Casa?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=2772.0,2774.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Oh, we surely do. We, in January this year, we turned away 200 Children, it seems unreal. Now that doesn't happen every month. But that was our all time high, which motivated our Board to take a look at where the child abuse is occurring. And, of course, it's always has always been the middle and upper class. But there's a pocket of people that young couples raising children on the east side, like south of Davis Monthan. And maybe also South a Spanish Trail. And there's many children out there that are abused and neglected. So we're trying to set up a satellite nursery out there, which in addition to duplicating the nursery, we're hoping to set up a ranch style facility where we can house mother and child or single parent and child and adolescent that really can't go home because it's not safe. And any other person that might be abused for for any reason. My goal is that every everyone who cannot go home, because it's unsafe will have a place will have a refuge. And I think this will be our final fulfillment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=2775.0,2846.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Part of the Casa de los ninos program is parents owed a group designed for parents who need help coping,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=2847.0,2852.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: each parent aid is assigned a family. And the idea is for the parent a to be a friend to be an advocate to be a good listener. And they are in regular contact with the families. Hopefully, if the parents are in a crisis, they'll call the parent aides rather than taking their frustrations out on the children. For example, we're working with one young mother, who is 17 years old and has three children. She's a very mature and responsible girl. But she is she said, you know anybody else who's my age is still in school, I don't really have any friends that I can relate to. We have a parent aid working with her. In that case, the parent aid is really just somebody to go out to lunch with to be a good listener, that sort of thing. We have another gal who is a young single mother has one baby. And she had never learned how to do the laundry before the parent aid took her to the laundromat and showed her how to operate the washing machine and do the diapers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=2853.0,2911.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: If you are a child or adult in need of help immediately, the rape crisis center has counselors on duty 24 hours a day, whenever we do","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=2912.0,2920.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: a speaking engagement in a high school or junior high school, we we can always tell there is at least one or two girls in the classes that you can just tell by the expression of the body language that they probably are having that problem at home. And so we encourage the entire group that if they know of any problem like that, or if it exists in their situation, that they can call us and talk about it either anonymously or come into the office.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=2921.0,2946.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: The clergy is another place to turn to Reverend Roland Brammeier has worked with both parents and children in abusive situations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=2947.0,2954.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: We try to provide services to those people who fall through the cracks in the system. And any system not just welfare systems, but all systems we try to offer that type of service. And we also offer services to people who normally might not come to any other service but the ministry service because of confidentiality and things like that. I think people who have been confronted with the problem will seek out somebody who has some type of empathy with the issue. I think that for instance, for instance, when I deal with child abuse and my children are are all grown up now, but when I deal with child abuse, I have to get in touch with my own inner self that there is an abusive nature Me. And and we know that 97 Or I'm sure 99% Of all the children who are abused, their parents were abused children too. And inevitably, we were abused somewhere along the way. And the issue is if when I'm in touch with my abusiveness, I couldn't be more rational and more into that. And but I think I have to get in touch with that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=2955.0,3023.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I think the greatest thing for me was when I went, I went in thinking that I had to have the brattiness kids in the world and it took about six meetings, and I realized it wasn't the kids it was their mother and their dad.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=3024.0,3047.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Today's society has made a substantial effort to understand the problems families face. As a result, agencies have been created to help people cope with living. If you're a parent, having problems with your own children, or are a victim yourself, or know of someone who is we urge you to seek the help that is being offered. I'm Deborah Hastings, good evening for closeup nine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=3048.0,3076.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: The day I met my husband, I was going to commit suicide it was just too much to handle. So but I was in I figured, well hang on for a while. Well, he's have kind of keep an even keel, I guess, in the whole thing for the fact that we've gone through so many weird ideas and weird, you know, things that he's pretty much, you know, stuck it out with me and in stayed with me and, you know, encouraged me when other people have said, you know, crazy things that you know, just totally baffles my mind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=3077.0,3107.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: For many years, I thought that I was nothing. I would let people take advantage of me readily. I was a low achiever. And most things I did I was a quitter. And I think it was fun. The message I got from my parents saying that I wasn't worth the time or they were too busy for me. I feel that through my experiences as a child that I learned to do that I developed a low self esteem. And only through my efforts at this point in my life, have I been able to learn how to deal with that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=3108.0,3153.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I have to protect myself by you know, doing this in a silhouette. I shouldn't have to I should be able to say hey, this happened to me and I should be the one to be able to say I don't like it and I didn't appreciate it and this kind of stuff. You are not only a victim but you're also you know, just as guilty in a lot of people's eyes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876#t=3154.0,3156.0"}]},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74856/file/160876/transcript/38474/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/038/474/original/azu_ms673-020_a.vtt?1654795492","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/038/474/original/azu_ms673-020_a.vtt?1654795492"}]}]}]}