{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/222r49h31r/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["ERA: 24 Words"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/038/original/university-libraries-logo-2x.png?1711560609","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Publisher"]},"value":{"en":["University of Arizona Libraries"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["Copyright held by University of Arizona Libraries."]}},{"label":{"en":["Source"]},"value":{"en":["Jay Rochlin videocassettes, box 2, tape 16"]}},{"label":{"en":["Agent"]},"value":{"en":["Rochlin, Jay (producer)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1980"]}},{"label":{"en":["Coverage"]},"value":{"en":["Arizona--Tucson"]}},{"label":{"en":["Language"]},"value":{"en":["English"]}},{"label":{"en":["Description"]},"value":{"en":["A discussion in a talk show format of the Equal Rights Amendment."]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["U-Matic"]}},{"label":{"en":["Identifier"]},"value":{"en":["MS673.016 (uid)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Relation"]},"value":{"en":["Jay Rochlin videocassettes (part of)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Type"]},"value":{"en":["Interviews"]}}],"summary":{"en":["A discussion in a talk show format of the Equal Rights Amendment."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["Copyright held by University of Arizona Libraries."]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["University of Arizona Libraries"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["University of Arizona Libraries"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/038/original/university-libraries-logo-2x.png?1711560609","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/160/849/small/azu_ms673-016_a.mp4_1654728514.jpg?1654728515","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - azu_ms673-016_a.mp4"]},"duration":1650.71,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/160/849/small/azu_ms673-016_a.mp4_1654728514.jpg?1654728515","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-arizona.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/160/849/original/azu_ms673-016_a.mp4?1654728498","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":1650.71,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["MS673-016 [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: The idea of women's rights has never had an easy time in Arizona. Today, nearly 100 years after the first women's suffrage bill was introduced into the territorial Council, the same debates are raging. This time applied to the proposed Equal Rights Amendment. Good evening. I'm Jay Rocklin. Tonight, the era Why or why not? Way back in 1893, a man named Masterson introduced an equal suffrage bill. The Tucson Daily Star reacted if Masterson was an old maid, and was ugly as sin, then we could understand his recent break for female suffrage. In 1912. By initiative, the women of Arizona took the issue to the voters. Finally, after 30 years of effort, Arizona women won the right to vote. Six years later, in 1919, Congress passed the women's suffrage amendment, Arizona ratified it in 1920, and it was adopted into the Constitution later that year. Since that time, few issues have so closely touched and so sharply divided the women of America, as has the proposed Equal Rights Amendment. The 24 words that form the basis of the era seem at first glance to be simple and straightforward. equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States, or any state on account of sex. The one item that both opponents and proponents agree on is that the implications of ratification are both complex and far reaching that with ratification, change will come. This evening, I'm pleased to have as my guests for people who we feel will contribute to a greater understanding of the pros and cons of the era. Marsha Nieman is president of the Arizona chapter of the National Organization for Women. She has been active not only in Arizona, but nationally in her efforts to ratify the era. Sister Clara done as a state representative from Tucson and has actively supported ratification at the legislative level. Betty Lou has studied the question of women's rights for many years and has been active in organizing and speaking against the era. And Edmund Cohn, a Tucson attorney was a very controversial member of the Tucson Women's Commission. He's deeply committed to his efforts to defeat the amendment. We'll be right back to sort out these 24 words and discuss why or why not era.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=118.0,281.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Welcome back, before we get into our discussion, we agreed that it might be useful for me to read one more time, just want the era says the array is divided into three sections. The first which I already read or read again, the second which is controversial. The third which just says that The amendment will take effect two years after the date of ratification. Section one states, equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex. Section two, the Congress shall have the power to enforce by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article, And section three, the amendment shall take effect two years after the date of ratification. Marshall, let me start with you. Why do we need the era","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=282.0,330.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: we need the era to stay once and for all that we have a national policy of equality for all of our citizens, including females, and we need the era for economic reasons. It is very much connected to the problems of the working poor, a large percentage of which are women. Women don't have equality economically or any other way in this country. Yet, we're making strides in that direction, but we don't have it yet. And we need the era to take care of that. We also need the era because the federal government in the US Code alone, there are over 800 discriminatory laws or sections and no state era would ever do anything about those. And it's certainly asking a lot too as someone who's discriminated against to fight every one of those 800 pieces of legislation through a court system. We need a basic constitutional statement of equality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=331.0,383.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: They do create this, this need exists. You're a woman you've worked for a living.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=384.0,386.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: And no, I believe that we have a sufficient laws at the present time to take care of any of these needs. Women have equality through the first fifth and 14th amendments. We have the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment, especially where any archaic or unfair laws do exist. They can be changed through legislation at the local and state level, which is far better than having the federal government interfering.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=387.0,418.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: As an attorney how rough a shape are we in an Arizona as far as equal treatment of women under the law?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=419.0,425.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: We're not in rough shape at all. In Arizona. In fact, we've turned our laws topsy turvy, to wipe out every hint in our laws of any difference between the sexes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=426.0,434.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Is that true sister Claire?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=435.0,436.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: No, that I wouldn't agree with it on that point. The you know, what it takes is the experience of life and the data of experience the felt need the economic assessed necessities of life. And you look out there in an Arizona just like in the country, a woman working in sales is paid 45 cents to a man's dollar earned. A woman working in clerical work is paid 65 cents to a man's dollar earned. I don't see that anything has changed?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=437.0,461.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: How would the era help the situation at all? Well,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=462.0,465.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: the era would address the problem of equal pay for equal work, equal opportunity. In other words, by placing women in the Constitution and putting women equal before the law, then what it would do would be reduced it would reduce the incidence of discrimination in the workforce. Is that true?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=466.0,485.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: No. It's just the opposite. Right now we have federal law that mandates equal pay for equal work, the Equal Opportunity Employment Act. And we've had some mighty screwy decisions. In that law. For example, we had a case in federal court in Washington DC, that required that a woman except a male nurse, whether she wanted a male nurse or not, if she refused him, she had to pay his wages anyway. That's the kind of screwy situations we get up with when we get into a situation of mandated equality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=486.0,522.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: If I read Ed, right. He's saying that the situation exists at the moment where the Supreme Court is setting precedents that we really don't need an era the courts are turning these things around. They're realizing that women should be paid equally for equal work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=523.0,539.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: No, definitely not. There have been two fairly recent Supreme Court decisions, the bakkie decision and the Vorsteiner decision, both of which there were very specific statements saying that the current Constitution does not provide for equality under the law, there is no standard by which sexist discrimination is measured on the same basis as for example, racial discrimination. These are both recent decisions within the last couple of years and the Supreme Court made it very clear without the era we cannot expect full equality before the law in this country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=540.0,577.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: In other words, your with full responsibilities you say you're not really receiving full rights as a citizen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=578.0,585.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: That's right. We pay taxes we may be drafted the way things look now. We have a lot of the responsibilities of citizenship almost all of them as far as I can tell I'm we have we do not have the full rights. We don't have equal protection before the law. We do don't have equal employment opportunity, we don't have equal chance to join the armed forces, which are a major vocational training source for a lot of of the rights of citizenship that were denied.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=586.0,608.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Betty, do you feel that you're half a citizen? Oh, no, indeed. And","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=609.0,611.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I would like to correct a statement that says declare have made, she mentioned that women are not mentioned in the we are not in the Constitution. I've heard that's very common statement. Let's put women in the Constitution. As a matter of fact, I would say if we're going to put women in the Constitution, let's put men in the Constitution also, because the Constitution of the United States says people, persons and citizens, women are not discriminated in the Constitution. As far as equal pay for equal work is concerned, if a woman is not getting equal pay for equal work. One of the reasons could be her own fault that she has not taken her case to the courts. Because the government will pay the costs for her grievance, and she will receive the compensation for that. But women have the ability through the courts to correct any injustice injustices that are","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=612.0,676.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: two of Betty's points first. The question of sex in the Constitution, Is it there or not?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=677.0,684.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Or the fact the fact is that in 1787, when the Constitution was written, neither women nor slaves were considered because both women and slaves at that time were considered property, right. And all men were created equal at that time, according to the founding fathers, but women did not have a place in that if you go back to 1787, and read the documents. But the other point is even more important, Jay. And that's the point about equal pay for equal work. And I'd like to go back to 70. Both ad and Betty have said,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=685.0,709.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: well, let me study finish. Zero and what I'm getting at all right, as even if era has passed, they'll still be Biglan legal battles ahead for you won't there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=710.0,719.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, of course, everything has will always be tested in the court. But the point is, though, that went on, as I think Marcia has already pointed out, it's a case by case basis. Now, if women had equality before the law guaranteed under the United States Constitution, then they would have a basis for going to court and they would not in other words, they would be protected by the Constitution and not have to prove each incidence of discrimination case by case, which unless you have a lot of money, and a lot of time and a lot of resources, very difficult to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=720.0,755.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: And I'll let you respond, but let's take a break for commercial Okay, and be right back commercial. Welcome back, if I understood Sr. Clare's last comment correctly, she implied that at the moment, women really don't have a constitutional basis strong enough to go to court and win their cases. And with the era they would have would have that basis, therefore the array should pass.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=756.0,796.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: No. Jay, there's a couple of problems with that argument. First of all, the economic argument equal pay for equal work is a phony argument. Federal law, the Equal Employment Opportunity Act, state law, and IRS 4114 62. Ars 23 341, prohibits sex discrimination in employment, mandates equal pay for equal work, the era won't change a darn thing when it comes to equal pay for equal work. But what the era will do is it will create a fictitious equality, where there's a genuine difference between men and women. And that's the danger in a nutshell of the era to record you anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=797.0,840.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I would like to add to that, that in those states which have already passed a state Equal Rights Amendment, there's absolutely no evidence to suggest that these cases of discrimination are being handled any faster or any more efficiently than in those states which have not passed a state's Equal Rights Amendment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=841.0,861.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: That would you agree that there are indeed cases of discrimination that should not exist?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=862.0,865.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I certainly do agree. But as a solution to the problem and the passing a constitutional amendment is not going to solve that problem at all the procedure will be just exactly the same as it is today. Where there is discrimination, it will still have to go through the courts. And as far as the cost in money is concerned, the government pays the cost that does not cost the person who is bringing the suit at all. And furthermore, an employer who feels that he is being fair, he is not going to change because an amendment Just past because he may have reasons that he believes are very important.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=866.0,905.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: No one's going to other issues real quick. If you have a quick response","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=906.0,908.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I do we need a constitutional commitment to equal pay for equal work. A study just came out last year, which shows that 16 years after Congress passed the Equal Pay Bill, that the gap wage gap between men and women is wider than ever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=909.0,924.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay, I want to go into some of the arguments that people put forward against the Equal Rights Amendment. Talk about them. First. Will the Equal Rights Amendment put an end to the American family?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=925.0,936.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Of course not? It's an insane question. There's there's no way that it could families are not legislated in the era only affects laws, it doesn't affect private citizens in their homes or their personal relationships","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=937.0,950.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: that might disagree with","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=951.0,951.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: you. Yeah, it definitely will hurt the family, the traditional family as we know, it will be ended if the Equal Rights Amendment is passed. Part of that is because the homemaker, the position of the homemaker will be come very precarious, in the first place, she will lose her right to be supported for the right for her and her children to be supported by her husband. Because under the Equal Rights Amendment, and according to the Yale Law Journal report, the criminal non support laws cannot be sustained. We're only the male is liable for support. And we only need to look at the Equal Rights Amendment states. Right now. Look at Colorado, which is a fully equal rights amendment state, they have passed a law making it mandatory. Be sure to point Yeah, well,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=952.0,1006.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I would just say that I'm very concerned about the family and look at what is happening to the American family today, look at the problems that are that the American family is buffeted with today. And obviously, if that's happening already, how can you lay that on the Equal Rights Amendment, I take just the opposite view. In fact, I think that the equal rights amendment would help to revive the American family. And as a matter of fact, I would disagree very strongly that with with Betty, in fact, it would give recognition to the economic contribution of the homemaker, and in fact, would encourage a woman to be a full time homemaker rather than take her out of the home. In other words, I see the Equal Rights Amendment as even a very important contribution to the restoration of the American family are","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1007.0,1052.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: related. But you want to respond. If you don't mind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1053.0,1055.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I couldn't disagree more strongly in the era will absolutely destroy Arizona's community property laws. Because once you mandate equality in a family, then both will be required to support the family and the husband would have the legal right to demand that the wife go out and work whether she likes it or not. Work in this country","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1056.0,1081.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: a lot. There's laws against abandonment that are on the records now that apply both to men and women. How would this be any different?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1082.0,1089.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: It used to be that the husband was obligated to support the family. Now, the masculine has been a masculine even though it's no retirement shirtless, oh, yeah, family support down here snowed under with women chasing husbands don't support","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1090.0,1105.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: the family after a divorce, there is no there is no enforcement whatsoever. And there have been facts and corner cases in which women have sued to get support while they were still married to a man and the court says we only intervene and require support in the case I'm not","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1106.0,1118.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: speaking of welfare. It's a misdemeanor in the state of Arizona for a parent or a spouse to fail to quote support. The other spouse used to be the law said the husband would be a criminal if he did not support the spouse. Now that's been changed. If I want to I can say to my wife get out and support me or otherwise You've committed a crime. But more than that, and I'll finish up sister Claire, as a nun and as a Catholic ought to be aware of Pope Pius the 11th encyclical on equality and how the fact that inequality would destroy the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1119.0,1154.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: family. Okay, what does this mean?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1155.0,1156.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Well, it means that Ed is very out of date and hasn't read the read the most recent encyclical of the Pope's with regard to the family and family life. And I would just point out for its benefit that right at this very day men and women are working to try to keep the family together because inflation is practically wrecking families now and women have to work out of economic necessity, even if they have a husband who's working full time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1157.0,1187.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: One more question I gotta get into before we go the audience I'm sorry, but first of all, get your question. Does the era necessarily mean abortion? Sister Claire Oh,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1188.0,1199.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Let us put that to rest once and for all, as bishop McAuliffe just testified last month before the Senate Judiciary Committee in Missouri, there is absolutely he testified in favor of ratification of the Equal Rights Amendment in Jefferson City. And there is absolutely no connection between the Equal Rights Amendment and abortion. They are absolutely two separate, unrelated issues.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1200.0,1223.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: And I know you disagree with that. Absolutely. 100% once you make everyone equal, you cannot make a law that affects surgery that a woman can have cannot have. It'll mandate abortion in this country. It'll be the equivalent of the Dred Scott decision all over.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1224.0,1239.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Is it gonna mandate vasectomy? No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1240.0,1241.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: No, you know? We're probably prohibit them. Yes,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1242.0,1246.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: yeah. And era touches only those concerns or rights of both men and women. And since women men cannot bear children, the era therefore cannot touch abortion. Oh, sister. That's a phony argument. No, it's very valid argument.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1247.0,1261.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: We'll be right back. Welcome back, we decided to get right to questions from a very apparently partisan audience. green buttons all over the place. Have you noticed, which is the new era official color? What's your name? I'm Judith Maximov. And your question,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1262.0,1287.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I'd like to ask Marcia, if she thinks the era is going to be ratified. I hope that it will be ratified. I believe it can be ratified. But I think it will only be ratified if all the people out there who say yes, I support it, but have never done anything for it, decide to get busy and work for it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1288.0,1303.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: How about in Arizona specifically?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1304.0,1305.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I think Arizona has a possibility. Most organizations rank Arizona about seven or eight on the list of 15 in terms of their likelihood of ratification.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1306.0,1315.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: While at 30? No, I don't believe the equal rights amendment will ever be ratified. I don't believe it will be ratified in Arizona. I think the draft situation would be one reason I believe we know that if the Equal Rights Amendment is passed, women will be sent into combat women, including mothers will go into combat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1316.0,1338.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: So you feel that this is sufficient reason. Yes, I think that women are going to be drafted whether or not the era passes. Do you think Well, only","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1339.0,1346.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: through an act of Congress? Can women be sent into combat at the present time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1347.0,1351.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Do you feel that if Congress does pass this act, the era might have a better chance of being passed?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1352.0,1358.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: No. I know that is because that is only one. I think people especially in states, which have a state Equal Rights Amendment are seeing just what the amendment they harm the amendment Can do. To women","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1359.0,1373.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I know is a question right here. What's your name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1374.0,1375.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: My name is Betty Riley. And one thing that concerned me when you read the complete article, and I'd like to hear Mr. Khan, explain, explain it a little further. It's not been touched on Congress shall have power to enforce this article. And historically, it seems to me we've been concerned about states rights. And that,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1376.0,1395.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: of course, brings up this federal intervention argument.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1396.0,1401.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Come out, it's fairly common, we amend the Constitution. And then we have Congress pass special acts, to enforce it in special areas. We had the 14th Amendment to the Constitution. And then we had the Civil Rights Act. If we have the era, we can then expect Congress to pass many acts to nail down what they mean by an absolute standard of equality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1402.0,1429.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Sister Claire, do you see anything wrong with Congress? Well, I mean, the power is going for us when it's on amendments,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1430.0,1435.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: know that that is no different than any other Amendment to the Constitution. In other words, that's not an uncommon phrase, you'll find that phrase and every other every Amendment to the Constitution. Not at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1436.0,1444.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I know, there's a question right here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1445.0,1447.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: My name is Dave Jacobson. And I'd like to direct this question, Ed, you said earlier that you felt women shouldn't have equal pay with with men, because there are differences. I'd like to know exactly what differences are there that determine why women should earn less than men.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1448.0,1466.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: And I don't know that I said that I didn't think women should have equal pay. If I did, I was kidding. Obviously, whether whether you're a man or a woman, if you do the same job. Fairness, should indicate you ought to receive the same pay. What I don't like though, is I don't like some federal bureaucrat coming in and telling me that I don't have the option as an employer if I wish, because one individual might have a family or a widowed parent that he's taken care of, to pay that individual more. This is the danger of Have the bureaucracy","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1467.0,1501.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: go ahead and respond,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1502.0,1502.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: or that she might be taking care of her family. Most of the women who work work because they're either supporting families by themselves, or because they have husbands who make less than $7,000 a year and nobody can live on $7,000 a year in this country right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1503.0,1516.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: And I should be entitled to pay that woman more if I feel like I've got time for just one more question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1517.0,1522.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yeah, my name is Jim sherry. I'd like to ask either of the opponents. Why if as is true, and they've made the point that both men and women are equal under the law, why do you oppose a simple statement of that fact? In the constitutionalist,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1523.0,1538.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: women are equal under the law","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1539.0,1539.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: and women are equal under the law. Why shouldn't the Constitution say so?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1540.0,1544.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: That the constitution does say so the Constitution does not discriminate against women?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1545.0,1549.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: No, but if the constitution does say so what harm would be done in having a restated clearly?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1550.0,1555.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Because it's too when it covers too many aspects of our life, every area of our life consistently be affected.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1556.0,1564.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: The Constitution only deals in the law, not in social mores, not in custom only in the law, and it does not","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1565.0,1572.999"},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNKNOWN SPEAKER: quickly add to that, we've got to stop I apologize. Too bad, nearly enough time to cover the issue. Over here, thank you very much for joining us. Good night.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849#t=1573.0,1575.0"}]},{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://arizona.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1985/collection_resources/74853/file/160849/transcript/38468/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/038/468/original/azu_ms673-016_a.vtt?1654728578","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/038/468/original/azu_ms673-016_a.vtt?1654728578"}]}]}]}